On April 14 2013 03:51 ShotgunBiceps wrote: Mock - what part of those quotes from CC are scummy? All that shows is that he changed his mind over time, which is completely non-allignment indicative.
This is the second really questionable read you're using this game. The first being a buddying read that you justified as legitimate since I used it once in a game I played almost a year ago (and my 2nd normal game to boot).
Shotgun; have you been reading the whole conversation or just that final post with a vote?
Secondly, what I chose to elucidate clearly demonstrates a mindset that has not changed its mind over time. There has been zero critical thought other than "my brain: something in there".
I pressured him for justification and he reciprocates by calling me town/watever. Now they are blaming it on differeing thoughts between the two slots.
*Yet, say they have been talking about it themselves in the QT incessantly*
----------------- As for your second comment. I don't know about the buddying read specifically; but you pinged my alarms early on too. So get over yourself.
Lol I didn't blame shit Mocsta. I said we've been discussing but I don't really care what CC has brought to the thread with you; it's not necessarily indicative of my thoughts whatsoever, just his. You mentioned that we're in sync, and you're right about that. Our goal is to scumhunt and by me sitting back and letting Cheese spout off whatever he wants, whether we agree with each other or not right now, that's what we're doing.
You basically are saying the same thing regarding what happened with you and GK, are you not? The difference I see here is that GK hasn't answered for himself yet, but you've been trying to answer for him this whole time, and only just now mentioned that it's up to him when he gets back.
On April 14 2013 02:41 SamuelLJackson wrote: FondleMyButtocks looks suspicious. His bigger posts look constructed rather than free flowing and he isn't doing anything with his few other posts. Going after Vivax/kush hydra is fine, but his reasons look forced to me.
On April 13 2013 08:40 VIVAX420 wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote MockArmor
Almost forgot that the guy found joining the pre-game banter funny but when the game started he didn't feel that much like joking. Must be discussing stuff elsewhere!
the soft calling of someone as scum through the idea of 'posting somewhere else' of course they are posting somewhere else. I got a qt in my role pm. You got a qt too. We all did, its a hydra game! Stupid way to phrase this, it feels like over justification.
It's not "soft calling" when you throw your vote down and stupid does not equal mafia. It was a short, semi serious early game vote post with only one justification. Not at all an "over justification", there was only one reason for the vote.
His other reasons for finding vivax420 suspicious look similarly manufactured. The way he words his case and frames vivax420's posts overall does not feel genuine and open-minded (e.g. "supposed to be 420's concise thoughts", "even gives us a lynchable list"). The random comment about wanting to "almost" lynch GK for tradition's sake also looks like kind of fluff mafia likes to add to their post.
Phagga are you going to write that mockarmor case?
Nope, not gonna write it. At the time when i said that to prom it was about how I felt that GKs posts were constructed, and missing pretty much the free flow that you also accuse prom of lacking. However, after rereading his filter in CT I was reminded that this just seems to be the way he posts. Also, Mocsta has since then added a lot to their filter, and I don't see how their behaviour is pushing a scum agenda.
reading up on some filters, will post more in the next hour. Also, I wonder where NeutralSrvivingBalrog is.
I'll reread some stuff and I'll be back with a few thoughts in the next hour.
SLJ oticed too that the case against me was like: let's make a case against vivax, i'll just throw together some badly looking stuff we can find and write some other stuff under it that makes it sound bad.
On April 14 2013 02:41 SamuelLJackson wrote: FondleMyButtocks looks suspicious. His bigger posts look constructed rather than free flowing and he isn't doing anything with his few other posts. Going after Vivax/kush hydra is fine, but his reasons look forced to me.
On April 13 2013 21:16 FondleMyButtocks wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:40 VIVAX420 wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote MockArmor
Almost forgot that the guy found joining the pre-game banter funny but when the game started he didn't feel that much like joking. Must be discussing stuff elsewhere!
the soft calling of someone as scum through the idea of 'posting somewhere else' of course they are posting somewhere else. I got a qt in my role pm. You got a qt too. We all did, its a hydra game! Stupid way to phrase this, it feels like over justification.
It's not "soft calling" when you throw your vote down and stupid does not equal mafia. It was a short, semi serious early game vote post with only one justification. Not at all an "over justification", there was only one reason for the vote.
His other reasons for finding vivax420 suspicious look similarly manufactured. The way he words his case and frames vivax420's posts overall does not feel genuine and open-minded (e.g. "supposed to be 420's concise thoughts", "even gives us a lynchable list"). The random comment about wanting to "almost" lynch GK for tradition's sake also looks like kind of fluff mafia likes to add to their post.
Phagga are you going to write that mockarmor case?
Nope, not gonna write it. At the time when i said that to prom it was about how I felt that GKs posts were constructed, and missing pretty much the free flow that you also accuse prom of lacking. However, after rereading his filter in CT I was reminded that this just seems to be the way he posts. Also, Mocsta has since then added a lot to their filter, and I don't see how their behaviour is pushing a scum agenda.
reading up on some filters, will post more in the next hour. Also, I wonder where NeutralSrvivingBalrog is.
I'll reread some stuff and I'll be back with a few thoughts in the next hour.
What is a scum agenda before the 24h mark of a game? I've never been scum so I'm not really sure. Can anyone enlighten me?
On April 14 2013 02:41 SamuelLJackson wrote: FondleMyButtocks looks suspicious. His bigger posts look constructed rather than free flowing and he isn't doing anything with his few other posts. Going after Vivax/kush hydra is fine, but his reasons look forced to me.
On April 13 2013 21:16 FondleMyButtocks wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:40 VIVAX420 wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote MockArmor
Almost forgot that the guy found joining the pre-game banter funny but when the game started he didn't feel that much like joking. Must be discussing stuff elsewhere!
the soft calling of someone as scum through the idea of 'posting somewhere else' of course they are posting somewhere else. I got a qt in my role pm. You got a qt too. We all did, its a hydra game! Stupid way to phrase this, it feels like over justification.
It's not "soft calling" when you throw your vote down and stupid does not equal mafia. It was a short, semi serious early game vote post with only one justification. Not at all an "over justification", there was only one reason for the vote.
His other reasons for finding vivax420 suspicious look similarly manufactured. The way he words his case and frames vivax420's posts overall does not feel genuine and open-minded (e.g. "supposed to be 420's concise thoughts", "even gives us a lynchable list"). The random comment about wanting to "almost" lynch GK for tradition's sake also looks like kind of fluff mafia likes to add to their post.
Phagga are you going to write that mockarmor case?
Nope, not gonna write it. At the time when i said that to prom it was about how I felt that GKs posts were constructed, and missing pretty much the free flow that you also accuse prom of lacking. However, after rereading his filter in CT I was reminded that this just seems to be the way he posts. Also, Mocsta has since then added a lot to their filter, and I don't see how their behaviour is pushing a scum agenda.
reading up on some filters, will post more in the next hour. Also, I wonder where NeutralSrvivingBalrog is.
I'll reread some stuff and I'll be back with a few thoughts in the next hour.
What is a scum agenda before the 24h mark of a game? I've never been scum so I'm not really sure. Can anyone enlighten me?
On April 14 2013 04:39 VIVAX420 wrote: Fmb is scum. That balrog dude's inactivity is starting to look scummy too.
-vivax
you haven't given a reason on why you think we're scum besides "bad case". Even if the case would be bad (i leave that up to prom to debate), you should be aware that townies can make bad cases too. So what exactly makes us scum?
Ok I aksed him! (PS The reason I asked for the rest of town input is so I could have a non-internal opinion, but whatever.) What I've gleaned from CC's extensive scum knowledge is that scum want to do a bunch of things on D1: Distance scumbuddies, look towny, lynch a towny, etc. Of course I could argue that by voting us, MA is attempting to do all of these things, but that's not the point of this post.
What interests me more is that CC told me that it's difficult to pin down scum on D1 unless they're really 'blates,' as he put it, and that without a flip it's difficult to ascertain what a scum agenda is.
Hell why does scum even need to have a specific agenda on D1? If no one is suspecting them, and they don't feel threatened what agenda do they need to push?
That's why your post bother me a little, FnB. It's so much the fact that you soft defend MA, but it's HOW you do it, considering there is absolutely NO WAY you could possibly know if MA is pushing a scum agenda or not with his posting.
So what you're saying now is you don't want to write your promised case because it was based on just GK's filter (which was tiny) and entirely based on the flow of his posting? Ok, I suppose I understand but then it seems your case probably didn't have much of a leg to stand on to begin with if you could immediately look elsewhere and prove yourself wrong. Why bother to toss out suspicion and make a big deal about a case that wasn't solid or even written yet?
That's why your post bothers me a little, FnB. It's NOT so much the fact that you soft defend MA, but it's HOW you do it, considering there is absolutely NO WAY you could possibly know if MA is pushing a scum agenda or not with his posting.
On April 14 2013 05:33 WaveOfCheesecake wrote: Ok I aksed him! (PS The reason I asked for the rest of town input is so I could have a non-internal opinion, but whatever.) What I've gleaned from CC's extensive scum knowledge is that scum want to do a bunch of things on D1: Distance scumbuddies, look towny, lynch a towny, etc. Of course I could argue that by voting us, MA is attempting to do all of these things, but that's not the point of this post.
What interests me more is that CC told me that it's difficult to pin down scum on D1 unless they're really 'blates,' as he put it, and that without a flip it's difficult to ascertain what a scum agenda is.
Hell why does scum even need to have a specific agenda on D1? If no one is suspecting them, and they don't feel threatened what agenda do they need to push?
That's why your post bother me a little, FnB. It's so much the fact that you soft defend MA, but it's HOW you do it, considering there is absolutely NO WAY you could possibly know if MA is pushing a scum agenda or not with his posting.
So what you're saying now is you don't want to write your promised case because it was based on just GK's filter (which was tiny) and entirely based on the flow of his posting? Ok, I suppose I understand but then it seems your case probably didn't have much of a leg to stand on to begin with if you could immediately look elsewhere and prove yourself wrong. Why bother to toss out suspicion and make a big deal about a case that wasn't solid or even written yet?
Ask prom, he wrote I want to write a case on MockArmor. I just looked up our conversation and I said to him that GK caught my eye cause of the way he posts, but that I thought he was playing similarly in Chrono Trigger. I don't know how Prom derived from this that I would write a case on him.
And how did I softdefend them? Against who's attack? All I wanted to say is that whatever I thought might be a good reason to ask a few question has become irrelevant with the additions of Mocsta.
buttman has been here way more than i have but hes barely said anything that actually means things like all hes done is make that one case against vivax which is just "he doesnt take positions on people" well
On April 14 2013 03:05 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm drunk and Prom disappearing makes me want to post instead od look at bewbies. I Just saying.
>2pm EST >Drunk
bro he said he'd be at a bachelor party, I assume that i where the bewbies come in too.
VE: what do you mean disappearing? I need sleep, I am only human. I'm awake again and I'll be here for half an hour before I go to work.
Phagga never promised a case on MA, I said that he he wanted to push them he could make a case. That was eight or nine hours ago when he had said that the gk/moc hydra was the one he was most suspicious of. He has changed his mind since that time and now finds vivax420 most suspicious.
Syllo, you have a track record of 0% correct reads on me. Why not try to actually interact with me and the rest of the thread instead of popping in and spreading suspicion before vanishing again.
Hapa, I'd like you to look at kush and tell me what you think of him. If you are town I am sure you'll see why my case is valid on young kush, think about it.
marv, you around? I'd like to chat and you have been surprisingly reticent while I have been in the thread. what are you thinking?
On April 14 2013 05:57 NeutralSrvivngBalrog wrote: buttman has been here way more than i have but hes barely said anything that actually means things like all hes done is make that one case against vivax which is just "he doesnt take positions on people" well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGKRSAwrkXo
dood is scum parbably
You want list post with town and scum reads bro? Too bad.
For now I am most suspicious of v420 and no longer particularly suspicious of raynmaster, we'll see how their play improves but they feel right.
I have no idea of who you find suspicious besides me. Help a brother out and lets talk through your thoughts, I'd love to get a real read on you.
SnB you should be looking at VIVAX420 and Me, those seem to be the people that most people are suspicious of. If you want you can also look at the Moc/oats argument but it might make you vomit in your hands.
On April 14 2013 05:57 NeutralSrvivngBalrog wrote: buttman has been here way more than i have but hes barely said anything that actually means things like all hes done is make that one case against vivax which is just "he doesnt take positions on people" well
dood is scum parbably
That's nice. I'd rather kill you instead though. How about that?
##Unvote ##Vote: NeutralSrvivingBalrog
On April 14 2013 05:57 NeutralSrvivngBalrog wrote: also phagga for someone with a name thats probably offensive to gay doods you sure chose a gay hydra name
it isn't offensive to gay doods in the slighest, never fear.
On April 14 2013 05:57 NeutralSrvivngBalrog wrote: buttman has been here way more than i have but hes barely said anything that actually means things like all hes done is make that one case against vivax which is just "he doesnt take positions on people" well
dood is scum parbably
That's nice. I'd rather kill you instead though. How about that?
On April 14 2013 05:57 NeutralSrvivngBalrog wrote: also phagga for someone with a name thats probably offensive to gay doods you sure chose a gay hydra name
it isn't offensive to gay doods in the slighest, never fear.
~marv
marv, can you give me your thoughts on me and VIVAX420 please.
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