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MockArmor
Profile Joined April 2013
Vatican City State88 Posts
April 13 2013 18:48 GMT
#621
On April 14 2013 03:47 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Read the quote again.

Enlighten me.

Its 3am, im tired; and I dont get the inferrence.
Mocsta + GoodKarma
WaveOfCheesecake
Profile Joined April 2013
109 Posts
April 13 2013 18:48 GMT
#622
None of that is indicative of anything whatsoever, Mocsta; CC and I have been talking throughout this conversation you've been having with him.

He's just writing stuff, possibly while high, and we have slightly differing views on what your conversation has meant thus far.
Let me go through it with you though, since you don't seem to understand his point of view:

First CC thought you were scummy, now he thinks you're town.
The quote where he says he never thought you were town? He meant before, you know, when he thought you were scummy.

What's the deal with you attempting to turn everything we say around on us though? I can't be sure of what CC thinks of you right now, but you've been null-leaning scum for me for ages, including now.
WaveOfCheesecake
Profile Joined April 2013
109 Posts
April 13 2013 18:49 GMT
#623
On April 14 2013 03:19 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Lol I'm so high. CC420... Anyway, Mocsta, you're making it really black and white; like I thought you were totes scum and now I think you're totes town.


semicolons are cool. It was in reference to what you thought I was thinking.
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 13 2013 18:51 GMT
#624
Mock - what part of those quotes from CC are scummy? All that shows is that he changed his mind over time, which is completely non-allignment indicative.

This is the second really questionable read you're using this game. The first being a buddying read that you justified as legitimate since I used it once in a game I played almost a year ago (and my 2nd normal game to boot).
Hapahauli/jampidampi
MockArmor
Profile Joined April 2013
Vatican City State88 Posts
April 13 2013 18:53 GMT
#625
On April 14 2013 03:48 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
None of that is indicative of anything whatsoever, Mocsta; CC and I have been talking throughout this conversation you've been having with him.

He's just writing stuff, possibly while high, and we have slightly differing views on what your conversation has meant thus far.
Let me go through it with you though, since you don't seem to understand his point of view:

First CC thought you were scummy, now he thinks you're town.
The quote where he says he never thought you were town? He meant before, you know, when he thought you were scummy.

What's the deal with you attempting to turn everything we say around on us though? I can't be sure of what CC thinks of you right now, but you've been null-leaning scum for me for ages, including now.

Why dont you start by telling me, when CC joined the conversation.

Or are you suggesting it has been CC the entire time from the first accusation.
Mocsta + GoodKarma
WaveOfCheesecake
Profile Joined April 2013
109 Posts
April 13 2013 18:53 GMT
#626
On April 14 2013 03:48 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
None of that is indicative of anything whatsoever, Mocsta; CC and I have been talking throughout this conversation you've been having with him.

He's just writing stuff, possibly while high, and we have slightly differing views on what your conversation has meant thus far.
Let me go through it with you though, since you don't seem to understand his point of view:

First CC thought you were scummy, now he thinks you're town.
The quote where he says he never thought you were town? He meant before, you know, when he thought you were scummy.

What's the deal with you attempting to turn everything we say around on us though? I can't be sure of what CC thinks of you right now, but you've been null-leaning scum for me for ages, including now.


Just for clarification: I've (CC) been posting everything, and that one right up there ^ is Wave. We've been talking a lot about Mocsta. I thought he was suspect, then he explained a little, and i thought he wasn't anymore. Then Wave was like "Hey CC, that's probably scum Mocsta brohan"
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 13 2013 18:54 GMT
#627
On April 14 2013 00:20 raynmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 00:17 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
raynmaster mind sharing your reads? Your only read so far seems to be that you think my partner is scummy because he did something stupid. Care to expound on that?

Town Hapa isnt stupid hapa. Push on VE off a JOKE was so fucking dumb its scummy. You see in Newbie 30~, my scum partner did the same thing, pushed a dude off a joke. Also happened other times that I recall but not all that well.
The worse part is that Hapa KNOWS VE, and for him to push it, yeah thats bad.

Hydra names in sig please, brain not enough capacity to remember.


Stop repeating talking points.

Firstly, I didn't think the post by VE was a joke at the time, hence me pushing him off of it.

Secondly, I don't know VE very well, and I'm generally pretty terrible at reading him. I've played 2 games with him, both of which he was scum and both of which I had gut-town reads on him for the first few days.

Also if I'm "scummy as fuck" or whatever, where's your vote? Where's your push? All I see is you tryign to justify that I'm scummy to my partner instead of going anywhere with it.
Hapahauli/jampidampi
MockArmor
Profile Joined April 2013
Vatican City State88 Posts
April 13 2013 18:58 GMT
#628
On April 14 2013 03:53 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 14 2013 03:48 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
None of that is indicative of anything whatsoever, Mocsta; CC and I have been talking throughout this conversation you've been having with him.

He's just writing stuff, possibly while high, and we have slightly differing views on what your conversation has meant thus far.
Let me go through it with you though, since you don't seem to understand his point of view:

First CC thought you were scummy, now he thinks you're town.
The quote where he says he never thought you were town? He meant before, you know, when he thought you were scummy.

What's the deal with you attempting to turn everything we say around on us though? I can't be sure of what CC thinks of you right now, but you've been null-leaning scum for me for ages, including now.


Just for clarification: I've (CC) been posting everything, and that one right up there ^ is Wave. We've been talking a lot about Mocsta. I thought he was suspect, then he explained a little, and i thought he wasn't anymore. Then Wave was like "Hey CC, that's probably scum Mocsta brohan"

Interesting; I was dead certain I have been dialoguing with Wave this whole time.
Until your other half spewed out "totes town"

Doesnt matter though: because Im not evaluating who said what. I am evaluating what the hydra said.
And that has been quite clear.
Mocsta + GoodKarma
WaveOfCheesecake
Profile Joined April 2013
109 Posts
April 13 2013 18:58 GMT
#629
A WILD WAVEOFSHADOW ENTERS DA THREAD
WHAT WILL MOCSTA DO?

FIGHT
POKEBALL
RUN
I FORGET THE OPTIONS I HAVEN'T PLAYED THAT GAME IN YEARS
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 19:06:50
April 13 2013 19:00 GMT
#630
Not-So-Nuclear Vote Count: (Freudian Slips Version)

John Matrix (1): InsertSmurfHere
WaveofCheesecake (1): MockArmor
ShotgunBiceps (1): John Matrix
FondleMyButtocks (2): FiveTouch, Vivax420
Vivax420 (1): FondleMyButtocks

Not Voting (5): SamuelLJackson, Raynmaster, NeutralSrvivngBalrog, ShotgunBiceps, WaveofCheesecake

Message if wrong, 6 needed for lynch etc etc
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveOfCheesecake
Profile Joined April 2013
109 Posts
April 13 2013 19:01 GMT
#631
On April 14 2013 04:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Not-So-Nuclear Vote Count:

John Matrix (1): InsertSmurfHere
WaferofCheesecake (1): MockArmor
ShotgunBiceps (1): John Matrix
FondleMyButtocks (2): FiveTouch, Vivax420
Vivax420 (1): FondleMyButtocks

Not Voting (5): SamuelLJackson, Raynmaster, NeutralSrvivngBalrog, ShotgunBiceps, WaveofCheesecake

Message if wrong, 6 needed for lynch etc etc

WTF Dandel. You make me a sad panda.
MockArmor
Profile Joined April 2013
Vatican City State88 Posts
April 13 2013 19:02 GMT
#632
On April 14 2013 03:51 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Mock - what part of those quotes from CC are scummy? All that shows is that he changed his mind over time, which is completely non-allignment indicative.

This is the second really questionable read you're using this game. The first being a buddying read that you justified as legitimate since I used it once in a game I played almost a year ago (and my 2nd normal game to boot).

Shotgun; have you been reading the whole conversation or just that final post with a vote?

Secondly, what I chose to elucidate clearly demonstrates a mindset that has not changed its mind over time.
There has been zero critical thought other than "my brain: something in there".

I pressured him for justification and he reciprocates by calling me town/watever.
Now they are blaming it on differeing thoughts between the two slots.

*Yet, say they have been talking about it themselves in the QT incessantly*

-----------------
As for your second comment. I don't know about the buddying read specifically; but you pinged my alarms early on too. So get over yourself.
Mocsta + GoodKarma
WaveOfCheesecake
Profile Joined April 2013
109 Posts
April 13 2013 19:02 GMT
#633
On April 14 2013 04:01 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 04:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Not-So-Nuclear Vote Count:

John Matrix (1): InsertSmurfHere
WaferofCheesecake (1): MockArmor
ShotgunBiceps (1): John Matrix
FondleMyButtocks (2): FiveTouch, Vivax420
Vivax420 (1): FondleMyButtocks

Not Voting (5): SamuelLJackson, Raynmaster, NeutralSrvivngBalrog, ShotgunBiceps, WaveofCheesecake

Message if wrong, 6 needed for lynch etc etc

WTF Dandel. You make me a sad panda.


Believe it or not that was Wave.
On April 14 2013 03:58 MockArmor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 03:53 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 14 2013 03:48 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
None of that is indicative of anything whatsoever, Mocsta; CC and I have been talking throughout this conversation you've been having with him.

He's just writing stuff, possibly while high, and we have slightly differing views on what your conversation has meant thus far.
Let me go through it with you though, since you don't seem to understand his point of view:

First CC thought you were scummy, now he thinks you're town.
The quote where he says he never thought you were town? He meant before, you know, when he thought you were scummy.

What's the deal with you attempting to turn everything we say around on us though? I can't be sure of what CC thinks of you right now, but you've been null-leaning scum for me for ages, including now.


Just for clarification: I've (CC) been posting everything, and that one right up there ^ is Wave. We've been talking a lot about Mocsta. I thought he was suspect, then he explained a little, and i thought he wasn't anymore. Then Wave was like "Hey CC, that's probably scum Mocsta brohan"

Interesting; I was dead certain I have been dialoguing with Wave this whole time.
Until your other half spewed out "totes town"

Doesnt matter though: because Im not evaluating who said what. I am evaluating what the hydra said.
And that has been quite clear.


Well you quoted a bunch of stuff that said I thought you were null / scummy, and not really town. Then you quoted something completely out of context that said you were totes town. Then Something about you being paranoid which is true.

So, what's so bad about that?
MockArmor
Profile Joined April 2013
Vatican City State88 Posts
April 13 2013 19:04 GMT
#634
On April 14 2013 03:58 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
A WILD WAVEOFSHADOW ENTERS DA THREAD
WHAT WILL MOCSTA DO?

FIGHT
POKEBALL
RUN
I FORGET THE OPTIONS I HAVEN'T PLAYED THAT GAME IN YEARS

Hes going to sleep. And im very content with where "our" vote is.

Regardless; I have said my piece, and laid my out my vote.
Won't comment any further till I have had a chance to discuss with my other slot.

Night.

Mocsta + GoodKarma
WaveOfCheesecake
Profile Joined April 2013
109 Posts
April 13 2013 19:04 GMT
#635
On April 14 2013 04:02 MockArmor wrote:
I pressured him for justification and he reciprocates by calling me town/watever.


Dat lie :3
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 13 2013 19:10 GMT
#636
MockArmour, in this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406683&currentpage=23#444, you say the present cases don't statisfy you implying you think we are town, since the only cases in the thread at that point was the case on us. How do we ping your alarm if you think we are town?
Hapahauli/jampidampi
MockArmor
Profile Joined April 2013
Vatican City State88 Posts
April 13 2013 19:10 GMT
#637
On April 14 2013 04:02 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Then you quoted something completely out of context that said you were totes town.

No, nothing was out of context.

On April 14 2013 03:48 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Mocsta; CC and I have been talking throughout this conversation you've been having with him.
On April 14 2013 03:53 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
We've been talking a lot about Mocsta.

Whether you are in agreement or not; you both are clearly in sync with each others stance via the active QT discussion regarding MA.

So no "totes town" was not taken out of context; and is a direct by product of the on-going dialogue between whoever I was speaking to for the past 2 hrs.
Mocsta + GoodKarma
WaveOfCheesecake
Profile Joined April 2013
109 Posts
April 13 2013 19:12 GMT
#638
On April 14 2013 04:10 MockArmor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 04:02 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Then you quoted something completely out of context that said you were totes town.

No, nothing was out of context.

Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 03:48 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Mocsta; CC and I have been talking throughout this conversation you've been having with him.
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 03:53 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
We've been talking a lot about Mocsta.

Whether you are in agreement or not; you both are clearly in sync with each others stance via the active QT discussion regarding MA.

So no "totes town" was not taken out of context; and is a direct by product of the on-going dialogue between whoever I was speaking to for the past 2 hrs.


Can you not read?

On April 14 2013 03:19 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Lol I'm so high. CC420... Anyway, Mocsta, you're making it really black and white; like I thought you were totes scum and now I think you're totes town.



In other words, that's what you're making it look like.
MockArmor
Profile Joined April 2013
Vatican City State88 Posts
April 13 2013 19:15 GMT
#639
On April 14 2013 04:10 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
MockArmour, in this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406683&currentpage=23#444, you say the present cases don't statisfy you implying you think we are town, since the only cases in the thread at that point was the case on us. How do we ping your alarm if you think we are town?

Seriously dude. Im assuming you haven't read the thread, as this has been covered in conversation with Rayn.

Short story: That was all GK. I cant answer that for him - so you will just have to wait for him to come online.
All I can say is in my opinion, I didn't like the way you guys handled the pursuit of VE. I liked the stuff that came after, and thats why my read changed. I don't see why anything more than that is of importance.

Further, I don't think you are confirmed town, or probably town. I said, i dont think you guys are scum. And I used a heuristic based on what I deem to be town Hapa play. There is no corollary that, that deems you as town. FULL STOP.

I will admit that personally, I thought the heuristic to call Wave cheese based on the "arousal" post was stupid though.

Anyways, night.
Mocsta + GoodKarma
MockArmor
Profile Joined April 2013
Vatican City State88 Posts
April 13 2013 19:17 GMT
#640
On April 14 2013 04:12 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 14 2013 04:10 MockArmor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 04:02 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Then you quoted something completely out of context that said you were totes town.

No, nothing was out of context.

Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 03:48 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Mocsta; CC and I have been talking throughout this conversation you've been having with him.
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 03:53 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
We've been talking a lot about Mocsta.

Whether you are in agreement or not; you both are clearly in sync with each others stance via the active QT discussion regarding MA.

So no "totes town" was not taken out of context; and is a direct by product of the on-going dialogue between whoever I was speaking to for the past 2 hrs.


Can you not read?

On April 14 2013 03:19 WaveOfCheesecake wrote:
Lol I'm so high. CC420... Anyway, Mocsta, you're making it really black and white; like I thought you were totes scum and now I think you're totes town.



In other words, that's what you're making it look like.

Yeah ok, i understand your point regarding context.

Im going to bed; will review once GK has had a look.

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