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Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 05:06 GMT
#279
The question meant nothing. I was bored.

I like Obzys name and how he posts a lot.

Now do productive things, and vote someone.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 05:15 GMT
#282
On April 06 2013 14:11 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 12:12 Rainbows wrote:
TheRavensName is a fantastic lynch for today!

He didn't do anything of use early game. He was around, but chose to do nothing useful. He barely even talked to me, and pretty much ignored events in the thread. His real 'entrance' post to the thread is here:

On April 05 2013 19:29 TheRavensName wrote:
God I must be feeling poorly when my first thought of waking up at 5:30 AM is to read the entire thread and try to figure it all out half awake. But, lets see where it goes.

Rainbows I have a question for you because I know you hate talking about policy.... why did you bring up a situation in vague enough terms that it had to be answered with policy and not answer it yourself? Its rather unlike your past games (I also know you hate Meta analysis.).. PS:Saraf called you an idiot and an asshole, who just MIGHT be a townie too but think its unlikely. Not really the best lynch reason.

Jampi: Why are you calling Rainbows out for policy lynching? He seems to have made it pretty clear he hates policy discussion in general, and he has yet to really use it in any of his previous games.

Jrk: Postig at random people is actually how rainbows plays. Look at the previous two newbie mini games for proof of that. Do you have another scum read? Or is the phrase other guy just referring to the lurkers?

Obzy: DO not go down the road of assuming everyone is town because no one is objecting to them being town. We made that mistake with rainbows last game and it cost us so badly. ALWAYS assume everyone is scum until they give you a really really good reason, which you should only share if your confident enough in your read to help defend them, and even then.. you need to hold them to the same degree of suspicion as your scum reads. You need to compare them to the results and look at who they are going after and make sure your not getting fooled.

Alot of people are calling Rainbows out for spammyness, but it seems quite a few other people are spamming pretty hard themselves, see the discussion on lurkers killing all of the drones and bio before people have even had 24 hours to get into the thread (I think jarjar still the only person who hasn't posted sense he /ined, so I would say theres only one real lurker.) and mentions of Rainbow's role claim last game by Obzy for examples. Just going to toss this out there: Come up with more then just spammyness by the end of day 1, sense he did get the discussion ball rolling at least.

Now back to sleep before I have to go to class.


Notice the complete lack of any sort of read or pressure in the post. Does Raven care about current events, does he look like he's hunting scum? He tells people to not vote me for spammyness, but does nothing to pressure those attacking me for that reason alone. He simply affords people the opportunity to lynch me by coming up with alternate reasons by the end of D1.

Where's the scumreads? Vote? Nothing.

On April 06 2013 03:06 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 05 2013 23:37 Rainbows wrote:

Nobodywonder

On April 05 2013 16:03 nobodywonder wrote:
Well I can't say scum for sure, but I definitely don't like it.

Rainbow votes Smancer. Then Rainbow unvotes, then talks about his policy that there should be no policy and that everyone has their own policy. Rainbow then brings up a policy scenario. Well, he states it isn't policy based. Well to me, it sounds like it is, since a policy defines a set of actions in response to certain behavior. I don't know that Rainbow would bring a policy question and call it not policy, seems like he's cautiously gauging townie response and the town meta.

Honestly, I want a response from not only Rainbow but also Smancer, since to me, it's interesting that Rainbow voted Smancer, unvoted Smancer and then voted Smancer again. In response Smancer had voted Rainbows and then unvoted Rainbow. I just a lil' weirded out by the voting trend.

+ Show Spoiler +
As a little meta thing, Rainbows seems to deviate a lot more from previous games, he did troll vote, but not to extent of this game. He also spams a lot more.


NW gives a huge summary. and throws some shit. He meditates on the policy thing, which I told everyone wasn't policy. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW PEOPLE THINK AND POLICY JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE. Had to get out of the way. This post, and subsequently the spoiler, show no effort on NW's part to come to a conrete read on me. He simply says that I'm doing things. He seems really apprehensive about giving an actual read and just flops around.

I want peoples opinions of NW. Saraf might just be a banality-spewing town; and I'm unsure if his lolpolicy was serious or not. But NW - that guy. He's scummy.

Seeing as how this is the third game now where NW has been a scummy read day one... have we ever wondered if NW just isn't that bright/isn't that good? I think NW just isn't that great and just makes mistakes and poor judgements that never seem to go well for him.
Just curious rainbows: Do you think Saraf or Nobodywonder has a higher chance of being scum, seeing as how right now the way I read it based off that wording is that you yourself are now voting for a guy you think might be town compared to a guy you think is scummy.


I hate this defense of NW. "Oh he's just bad townie, we shouldn't lynch him even if he's really scummy" Spare me, Raven. That's bullshit reasoning and you know it. Town has no reason to defend NW right now; Scum does. Scum looks good if he's town and gets lynched, or if they're both scum it's protecting his buddy.

Note how he also never gives a read on NW, just calls him bad.

On April 06 2013 11:46 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 06 2013 07:18 Obzy wrote:
I don't know what to think of Raven. He hasn't really posted enough - only his last two posts have content I care about;
Why does he think Saraf called Rain an asshole and an idiot? "even if the spammiest asshole is just some poor well-meaning fattie" - how is that implying Rain, unless it's taken for granted that Rain is a spammy asshole? >_>;;; Also, how did Rain interpret it to be calling him out?
- -; w/e. I would like to see Raven post more. Raven, are you implying that nobodywonder is town (haven't read him yet, will form an opinion momentarily) with this post?
On April 06 2013 03:06 TheRavensName wrote:
Seeing as how this is the third game now where NW has been a scummy read day one... have we ever wondered if NW just isn't that bright/isn't that good? I think NW just isn't that great and just makes mistakes and poor judgements that never seem to go well for him.
Just curious rainbows: Do you think Saraf or Nobodywonder has a higher chance of being scum, seeing as how right now the way I read it based off that wording is that you yourself are now voting for a guy you think might be town compared to a guy you think is scummy.

You seem like you're trying to point out that Rain's vote on Saraf is suspect, but that Nobodywonder is just a newb and not scum, but _also_ that he should be looking towards Nobodywonder instead of Saraf, who you think is town? I don't like it :x Please post more hehe. - -; I'm not following your reasoning, and that's all you've got atm.

(Continuing to read.)

To answer the first part: Rainbows brought it up I went off what he said.

Onto the next question: I think, at this moment, Nobodywonder is a sort of dumb town. What he says tseems to lack thought at times, and hes been scummy person on the first two days two games in a row acting exactly the same way as he has done so now, and he was VT both those times. So unless he makes a move that pushes me otherwise, I'm going to read dumb town on him.

Third part: I do think Rain's vote on Saraf is suspect. I'm stating that in that last part of rainbow's post that was a response to, which I think was poorly worded and was asking for clarification, that it looked like he had made the decision Saraf was at least maybe town and that Nobodywonder was just flat out scummy. If thats how he feels, why is he voting for Saraf still? Thats his whole reason for going after Safaf anyways (In that rainbows disliked that Sarif is voting for someone he said may have been scummy.)


Last post, pretty void of any reads whatsoever. The only thing he's pointed out is my vote on Saraf, which the entire thread has already said many times.

I hate to meta people, but TRN in previous games was active, scumhunting, and voted early Day 1. He's reserving his vote right now which irks me. He has done no scumhunting this game and is teetering on the edge of null on everybody.

##Unvote
##Vote: TheRavensName


P.S. Raven, it's SINCE, not SENSE ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Since when? If you want to discard my reasons for being here, thats fine. I feel like shit, I do have school things I had to do today, and they are done now. But you do not lie to me. Most of my post in the early game either were talking to you, or were about you, theres not many so its not that hard, but do not lie about that. Theres plenty of people trying to get you to answer questions, and I've posted a few for you myself you've neglected to answer.

Onto your next section of the case: How did I call Nobodywonder a newbie town and not give a read on him at all? Town has plenty of reason to defend people who they think could be stupid townies, because in a newbie game not only are they usually, they also are pretty easy to band wagon when they are so scummie seeming. I'm trying to keep a mislynch from happening like a good townie, and I gave out a read, sue me.

Third part: You read that, its a clarification response to a request from a post I made. You could have taken this time to address why you think NW is scummy but not vote worthy, like I expressed interest in knowing,and your not which is suspicious. Its a read, which makes it twice your accusing me of not making a read in the same post where I did. And if your going to bring meta into it you know that I am terrible at making cases up on my own, and I do the best by adding onto other peoples.

I'm going to make this last point, I don't like that your spreading half truths and coming after me for alot of the same shit some people are going after you for without explaining much of anything about any of the problems people have with you. Heres a vote for you:
##Vote: Rainbows

I'm going back to sleep now.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the obligatory OMGUS.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 05:24 GMT
#285
On April 06 2013 14:11 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 12:12 Rainbows wrote:
TheRavensName is a fantastic lynch for today!

He didn't do anything of use early game. He was around, but chose to do nothing useful. He barely even talked to me, and pretty much ignored events in the thread. His real 'entrance' post to the thread is here:

On April 05 2013 19:29 TheRavensName wrote:
God I must be feeling poorly when my first thought of waking up at 5:30 AM is to read the entire thread and try to figure it all out half awake. But, lets see where it goes.

Rainbows I have a question for you because I know you hate talking about policy.... why did you bring up a situation in vague enough terms that it had to be answered with policy and not answer it yourself? Its rather unlike your past games (I also know you hate Meta analysis.).. PS:Saraf called you an idiot and an asshole, who just MIGHT be a townie too but think its unlikely. Not really the best lynch reason.

Jampi: Why are you calling Rainbows out for policy lynching? He seems to have made it pretty clear he hates policy discussion in general, and he has yet to really use it in any of his previous games.

Jrk: Postig at random people is actually how rainbows plays. Look at the previous two newbie mini games for proof of that. Do you have another scum read? Or is the phrase other guy just referring to the lurkers?

Obzy: DO not go down the road of assuming everyone is town because no one is objecting to them being town. We made that mistake with rainbows last game and it cost us so badly. ALWAYS assume everyone is scum until they give you a really really good reason, which you should only share if your confident enough in your read to help defend them, and even then.. you need to hold them to the same degree of suspicion as your scum reads. You need to compare them to the results and look at who they are going after and make sure your not getting fooled.

Alot of people are calling Rainbows out for spammyness, but it seems quite a few other people are spamming pretty hard themselves, see the discussion on lurkers killing all of the drones and bio before people have even had 24 hours to get into the thread (I think jarjar still the only person who hasn't posted sense he /ined, so I would say theres only one real lurker.) and mentions of Rainbow's role claim last game by Obzy for examples. Just going to toss this out there: Come up with more then just spammyness by the end of day 1, sense he did get the discussion ball rolling at least.

Now back to sleep before I have to go to class.


Notice the complete lack of any sort of read or pressure in the post. Does Raven care about current events, does he look like he's hunting scum? He tells people to not vote me for spammyness, but does nothing to pressure those attacking me for that reason alone. He simply affords people the opportunity to lynch me by coming up with alternate reasons by the end of D1.

Where's the scumreads? Vote? Nothing.

On April 06 2013 03:06 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 05 2013 23:37 Rainbows wrote:

Nobodywonder

On April 05 2013 16:03 nobodywonder wrote:
Well I can't say scum for sure, but I definitely don't like it.

Rainbow votes Smancer. Then Rainbow unvotes, then talks about his policy that there should be no policy and that everyone has their own policy. Rainbow then brings up a policy scenario. Well, he states it isn't policy based. Well to me, it sounds like it is, since a policy defines a set of actions in response to certain behavior. I don't know that Rainbow would bring a policy question and call it not policy, seems like he's cautiously gauging townie response and the town meta.

Honestly, I want a response from not only Rainbow but also Smancer, since to me, it's interesting that Rainbow voted Smancer, unvoted Smancer and then voted Smancer again. In response Smancer had voted Rainbows and then unvoted Rainbow. I just a lil' weirded out by the voting trend.

+ Show Spoiler +
As a little meta thing, Rainbows seems to deviate a lot more from previous games, he did troll vote, but not to extent of this game. He also spams a lot more.


NW gives a huge summary. and throws some shit. He meditates on the policy thing, which I told everyone wasn't policy. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW PEOPLE THINK AND POLICY JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE. Had to get out of the way. This post, and subsequently the spoiler, show no effort on NW's part to come to a conrete read on me. He simply says that I'm doing things. He seems really apprehensive about giving an actual read and just flops around.

I want peoples opinions of NW. Saraf might just be a banality-spewing town; and I'm unsure if his lolpolicy was serious or not. But NW - that guy. He's scummy.

Seeing as how this is the third game now where NW has been a scummy read day one... have we ever wondered if NW just isn't that bright/isn't that good? I think NW just isn't that great and just makes mistakes and poor judgements that never seem to go well for him.
Just curious rainbows: Do you think Saraf or Nobodywonder has a higher chance of being scum, seeing as how right now the way I read it based off that wording is that you yourself are now voting for a guy you think might be town compared to a guy you think is scummy.


I hate this defense of NW. "Oh he's just bad townie, we shouldn't lynch him even if he's really scummy" Spare me, Raven. That's bullshit reasoning and you know it. Town has no reason to defend NW right now; Scum does. Scum looks good if he's town and gets lynched, or if they're both scum it's protecting his buddy.

Note how he also never gives a read on NW, just calls him bad.

On April 06 2013 11:46 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 06 2013 07:18 Obzy wrote:
I don't know what to think of Raven. He hasn't really posted enough - only his last two posts have content I care about;
Why does he think Saraf called Rain an asshole and an idiot? "even if the spammiest asshole is just some poor well-meaning fattie" - how is that implying Rain, unless it's taken for granted that Rain is a spammy asshole? >_>;;; Also, how did Rain interpret it to be calling him out?
- -; w/e. I would like to see Raven post more. Raven, are you implying that nobodywonder is town (haven't read him yet, will form an opinion momentarily) with this post?
On April 06 2013 03:06 TheRavensName wrote:
Seeing as how this is the third game now where NW has been a scummy read day one... have we ever wondered if NW just isn't that bright/isn't that good? I think NW just isn't that great and just makes mistakes and poor judgements that never seem to go well for him.
Just curious rainbows: Do you think Saraf or Nobodywonder has a higher chance of being scum, seeing as how right now the way I read it based off that wording is that you yourself are now voting for a guy you think might be town compared to a guy you think is scummy.

You seem like you're trying to point out that Rain's vote on Saraf is suspect, but that Nobodywonder is just a newb and not scum, but _also_ that he should be looking towards Nobodywonder instead of Saraf, who you think is town? I don't like it :x Please post more hehe. - -; I'm not following your reasoning, and that's all you've got atm.

(Continuing to read.)

To answer the first part: Rainbows brought it up I went off what he said.

Onto the next question: I think, at this moment, Nobodywonder is a sort of dumb town. What he says tseems to lack thought at times, and hes been scummy person on the first two days two games in a row acting exactly the same way as he has done so now, and he was VT both those times. So unless he makes a move that pushes me otherwise, I'm going to read dumb town on him.

Third part: I do think Rain's vote on Saraf is suspect. I'm stating that in that last part of rainbow's post that was a response to, which I think was poorly worded and was asking for clarification, that it looked like he had made the decision Saraf was at least maybe town and that Nobodywonder was just flat out scummy. If thats how he feels, why is he voting for Saraf still? Thats his whole reason for going after Safaf anyways (In that rainbows disliked that Sarif is voting for someone he said may have been scummy.)


Last post, pretty void of any reads whatsoever. The only thing he's pointed out is my vote on Saraf, which the entire thread has already said many times.

I hate to meta people, but TRN in previous games was active, scumhunting, and voted early Day 1. He's reserving his vote right now which irks me. He has done no scumhunting this game and is teetering on the edge of null on everybody.

##Unvote
##Vote: TheRavensName


P.S. Raven, it's SINCE, not SENSE ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

1.) Since when? If you want to discard my reasons for being here, thats fine. I feel like shit, I do have school things I had to do today, and they are done now. But you do not lie to me. Most of my post in the early game either were talking to you, or were about you, theres not many so its not that hard, but do not lie about that. Theres plenty of people trying to get you to answer questions, and I've posted a few for you myself you've neglected to answer.

2.) Onto your next section of the case: How did I call Nobodywonder a newbie town and not give a read on him at all? Town has plenty of reason to defend people who they think could be stupid townies, because in a newbie game not only are they usually, they also are pretty easy to band wagon when they are so scummie seeming. I'm trying to keep a mislynch from happening like a good townie, and I gave out a read, sue me.

3.) Third part: You read that, its a clarification response to a request from a post I made. You could have taken this time to address why you think NW is scummy but not vote worthy, like I expressed interest in knowing,and your not which is suspicious. Its a read, which makes it twice your accusing me of not making a read in the same post where I did. And if your going to bring meta into it you know that I am terrible at making cases up on my own, and I do the best by adding onto other peoples.

I'm going to make this last point, I don't like that your spreading half truths and coming after me for alot of the same shit some people are going after you for without explaining much of anything about any of the problems people have with you. Heres a vote for you:
##Vote: Rainbows

I'm going back to sleep now.


1.) You didn't do anything early game but troll, and that's completely fine. But it's still nothing.

2.) You never called NW newbie town. You called him newbie bad, and not wanting to lynch him for that. That's not a read, that's calling him... bad...

3.) I already said why NW was scummy. Okay, so now you call him dumb town but it's based on nothing. There is zero analysis from you this game.

Finally, your entire defense is essentially calling me out instead of doing something productive. You haven't been trying to find scum since the beginning of the game. If you want to prove innocence; I suggest you start.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 05:24 GMT
#286
On April 06 2013 14:19 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 14:15 Rainbows wrote:
On April 06 2013 14:11 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 06 2013 12:12 Rainbows wrote:
TheRavensName is a fantastic lynch for today!

He didn't do anything of use early game. He was around, but chose to do nothing useful. He barely even talked to me, and pretty much ignored events in the thread. His real 'entrance' post to the thread is here:

On April 05 2013 19:29 TheRavensName wrote:
God I must be feeling poorly when my first thought of waking up at 5:30 AM is to read the entire thread and try to figure it all out half awake. But, lets see where it goes.

Rainbows I have a question for you because I know you hate talking about policy.... why did you bring up a situation in vague enough terms that it had to be answered with policy and not answer it yourself? Its rather unlike your past games (I also know you hate Meta analysis.).. PS:Saraf called you an idiot and an asshole, who just MIGHT be a townie too but think its unlikely. Not really the best lynch reason.

Jampi: Why are you calling Rainbows out for policy lynching? He seems to have made it pretty clear he hates policy discussion in general, and he has yet to really use it in any of his previous games.

Jrk: Postig at random people is actually how rainbows plays. Look at the previous two newbie mini games for proof of that. Do you have another scum read? Or is the phrase other guy just referring to the lurkers?

Obzy: DO not go down the road of assuming everyone is town because no one is objecting to them being town. We made that mistake with rainbows last game and it cost us so badly. ALWAYS assume everyone is scum until they give you a really really good reason, which you should only share if your confident enough in your read to help defend them, and even then.. you need to hold them to the same degree of suspicion as your scum reads. You need to compare them to the results and look at who they are going after and make sure your not getting fooled.

Alot of people are calling Rainbows out for spammyness, but it seems quite a few other people are spamming pretty hard themselves, see the discussion on lurkers killing all of the drones and bio before people have even had 24 hours to get into the thread (I think jarjar still the only person who hasn't posted sense he /ined, so I would say theres only one real lurker.) and mentions of Rainbow's role claim last game by Obzy for examples. Just going to toss this out there: Come up with more then just spammyness by the end of day 1, sense he did get the discussion ball rolling at least.

Now back to sleep before I have to go to class.


Notice the complete lack of any sort of read or pressure in the post. Does Raven care about current events, does he look like he's hunting scum? He tells people to not vote me for spammyness, but does nothing to pressure those attacking me for that reason alone. He simply affords people the opportunity to lynch me by coming up with alternate reasons by the end of D1.

Where's the scumreads? Vote? Nothing.

On April 06 2013 03:06 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 05 2013 23:37 Rainbows wrote:

Nobodywonder

On April 05 2013 16:03 nobodywonder wrote:
Well I can't say scum for sure, but I definitely don't like it.

Rainbow votes Smancer. Then Rainbow unvotes, then talks about his policy that there should be no policy and that everyone has their own policy. Rainbow then brings up a policy scenario. Well, he states it isn't policy based. Well to me, it sounds like it is, since a policy defines a set of actions in response to certain behavior. I don't know that Rainbow would bring a policy question and call it not policy, seems like he's cautiously gauging townie response and the town meta.

Honestly, I want a response from not only Rainbow but also Smancer, since to me, it's interesting that Rainbow voted Smancer, unvoted Smancer and then voted Smancer again. In response Smancer had voted Rainbows and then unvoted Rainbow. I just a lil' weirded out by the voting trend.

+ Show Spoiler +
As a little meta thing, Rainbows seems to deviate a lot more from previous games, he did troll vote, but not to extent of this game. He also spams a lot more.


NW gives a huge summary. and throws some shit. He meditates on the policy thing, which I told everyone wasn't policy. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW PEOPLE THINK AND POLICY JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE. Had to get out of the way. This post, and subsequently the spoiler, show no effort on NW's part to come to a conrete read on me. He simply says that I'm doing things. He seems really apprehensive about giving an actual read and just flops around.

I want peoples opinions of NW. Saraf might just be a banality-spewing town; and I'm unsure if his lolpolicy was serious or not. But NW - that guy. He's scummy.

Seeing as how this is the third game now where NW has been a scummy read day one... have we ever wondered if NW just isn't that bright/isn't that good? I think NW just isn't that great and just makes mistakes and poor judgements that never seem to go well for him.
Just curious rainbows: Do you think Saraf or Nobodywonder has a higher chance of being scum, seeing as how right now the way I read it based off that wording is that you yourself are now voting for a guy you think might be town compared to a guy you think is scummy.


I hate this defense of NW. "Oh he's just bad townie, we shouldn't lynch him even if he's really scummy" Spare me, Raven. That's bullshit reasoning and you know it. Town has no reason to defend NW right now; Scum does. Scum looks good if he's town and gets lynched, or if they're both scum it's protecting his buddy.

Note how he also never gives a read on NW, just calls him bad.

On April 06 2013 11:46 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 06 2013 07:18 Obzy wrote:
I don't know what to think of Raven. He hasn't really posted enough - only his last two posts have content I care about;
Why does he think Saraf called Rain an asshole and an idiot? "even if the spammiest asshole is just some poor well-meaning fattie" - how is that implying Rain, unless it's taken for granted that Rain is a spammy asshole? >_>;;; Also, how did Rain interpret it to be calling him out?
- -; w/e. I would like to see Raven post more. Raven, are you implying that nobodywonder is town (haven't read him yet, will form an opinion momentarily) with this post?
On April 06 2013 03:06 TheRavensName wrote:
Seeing as how this is the third game now where NW has been a scummy read day one... have we ever wondered if NW just isn't that bright/isn't that good? I think NW just isn't that great and just makes mistakes and poor judgements that never seem to go well for him.
Just curious rainbows: Do you think Saraf or Nobodywonder has a higher chance of being scum, seeing as how right now the way I read it based off that wording is that you yourself are now voting for a guy you think might be town compared to a guy you think is scummy.

You seem like you're trying to point out that Rain's vote on Saraf is suspect, but that Nobodywonder is just a newb and not scum, but _also_ that he should be looking towards Nobodywonder instead of Saraf, who you think is town? I don't like it :x Please post more hehe. - -; I'm not following your reasoning, and that's all you've got atm.

(Continuing to read.)

To answer the first part: Rainbows brought it up I went off what he said.

Onto the next question: I think, at this moment, Nobodywonder is a sort of dumb town. What he says tseems to lack thought at times, and hes been scummy person on the first two days two games in a row acting exactly the same way as he has done so now, and he was VT both those times. So unless he makes a move that pushes me otherwise, I'm going to read dumb town on him.

Third part: I do think Rain's vote on Saraf is suspect. I'm stating that in that last part of rainbow's post that was a response to, which I think was poorly worded and was asking for clarification, that it looked like he had made the decision Saraf was at least maybe town and that Nobodywonder was just flat out scummy. If thats how he feels, why is he voting for Saraf still? Thats his whole reason for going after Safaf anyways (In that rainbows disliked that Sarif is voting for someone he said may have been scummy.)


Last post, pretty void of any reads whatsoever. The only thing he's pointed out is my vote on Saraf, which the entire thread has already said many times.

I hate to meta people, but TRN in previous games was active, scumhunting, and voted early Day 1. He's reserving his vote right now which irks me. He has done no scumhunting this game and is teetering on the edge of null on everybody.

##Unvote
##Vote: TheRavensName


P.S. Raven, it's SINCE, not SENSE ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Since when? If you want to discard my reasons for being here, thats fine. I feel like shit, I do have school things I had to do today, and they are done now. But you do not lie to me. Most of my post in the early game either were talking to you, or were about you, theres not many so its not that hard, but do not lie about that. Theres plenty of people trying to get you to answer questions, and I've posted a few for you myself you've neglected to answer.

Onto your next section of the case: How did I call Nobodywonder a newbie town and not give a read on him at all? Town has plenty of reason to defend people who they think could be stupid townies, because in a newbie game not only are they usually, they also are pretty easy to band wagon when they are so scummie seeming. I'm trying to keep a mislynch from happening like a good townie, and I gave out a read, sue me.

Third part: You read that, its a clarification response to a request from a post I made. You could have taken this time to address why you think NW is scummy but not vote worthy, like I expressed interest in knowing,and your not which is suspicious. Its a read, which makes it twice your accusing me of not making a read in the same post where I did. And if your going to bring meta into it you know that I am terrible at making cases up on my own, and I do the best by adding onto other peoples.

I'm going to make this last point, I don't like that your spreading half truths and coming after me for alot of the same shit some people are going after you for without explaining much of anything about any of the problems people have with you. Heres a vote for you:
##Vote: Rainbows

I'm going back to sleep now.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the obligatory OMGUS.

My first vote is almost always an OMGUS, because I'm almost always called scum day 1.


Just because someone calls you scum doesn't mean they are scum. Mafia 101.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 05:41 GMT
#288
I hate answering tedious questions... I'm more than happy to ask them if they are really relevant / significant... but heh...

On April 05 2013 10:46 TheRavensName wrote:
How is this question answered without bringing policy or meta into this, which you said you wanted to avoid?


Meta =/= policy.

In regards to the 'omg y u no vote NW' thing, I just didn't feel like it.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:13 GMT
#290
And then all the scum try to lynch me.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:16 GMT
#292
Your case is bullshit -- is that enough?

I mean, you said that im scum because I want to be the center of attention - TROLOLOLOLL
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:18 GMT
#294
That case actually convinces me jampidampi is scum. I honestly can't believe a townie would be that dumb.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:18 GMT
#295
SCUM DON'T WANT TO BE THE CENTER OF ATTENTION YOU RETARD
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:21 GMT
#297
On April 06 2013 15:03 jampidampi wrote:
This scummy since Rainbows clearly cares his image. He cares that people see him as town. He cares enough to make a point of being the center of discussion. Scum care for their image.


You. Are. Scum.

##unvote
##Vote: Jampidamp
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:25 GMT
#300
I care enough to make a point that I'm the center of discussion... WHY THE FUCK WOULD I EVEN TRY TO BE THE CENTER OF DISCUSSION
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:26 GMT
#301
No, it's not, because that case is absolutely terrible and makes no sense.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:28 GMT
#303
Dude I was blatantly trolling and being stupid... why the fuck would I do that if I'm scum
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:28 GMT
#304
The logic you guys use makes no sense at all. Jesus christ.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:31 GMT
#306
I'm the Vigilante. Just RB / Shoot me tomorrow night scum.

I can't even stand being in this retarded mess anymore.

I made reasonable posts and good points but everyone just kept being stupid.

Moloch is probably town. Obzy is probably town. Fishgle maybe town. Smancer might be town.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:31 GMT
#308
Like I don't even care I'm not posting anymore.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:38 GMT
#310
It is BS. Everyone is using the dumbest logic I've ever heard this game. And they would probably listen to it.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:39 GMT
#313
How am I ruining it if I'm making good posts and points but everyone just thinks I'm scum anyway?
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:43 GMT
#315
You're supposed to pick out the people that aren't contributing, aren't making reads, aren't pushing a town agenda, and aren't being transparent.

That's Day 1. Day 2 is picking out who is faking.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
April 06 2013 06:46 GMT
#318
If you aren't doing those things you probably are scum, or bad town. Then we analyze lynch results based a flip.
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