EPTNoir Mini Mafia: Chapter 1 - Page 3
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
| ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Ghor's been focusing on 3 main people this game. Initially, Risk, who was the easiest target from D1. Then Syl. And Hopeless to a certain extent. Look how the Syl and Hopeless scumreads developed... On April 02 2013 23:11 Ghor wrote: Ghor not like sylencia last two post, he lie about me. Ghor contribute, ghor say what he think, what he like, what he not like, who capitalist are.what risk do wrong and why not hammer too quick. but sylencia play like capitalist swine, he talk about me wildcard cause ghor sound like foreign, but say i scummy for things not true. but that not only reason.it sound like omgus, bad. ghor had eye on sylencia early, ghor ask axle about people like sylencia who say privjet and go away. what make ghor suspicious in late posts is: Sylencia spend more time talking about everyone except main scumread.ghor suspect sylencia try park easy vote on cheesecake. ghor sees no reason to mention everyone else but not try convince others that cc scum. sylencia also describe lot of things, but not give interpretationi. too much description, not enough opinion. look scummy. only alignment-opinion in big post are cc and ve. he say risk make strange things, but no say what he think of it. he only say votes on risk too early, and say scum hammer him quickly cause of CC, but if sylencia think CC scum, then why fear his vote will help scum? sylencia say risk do odd thing, no say if scummy or not, sylencia fear risk getting hammered quickly -> sylencia think risk town. wishwash here, scummy part. risk this last post ghor also find scummy, only description, no opinion about lazer. look like sylencia feel forced to give pseudo opinion about people he asked about. Sylencia finds Ghor to be a wildcard and scummy. Ghor essentially says in the bolded is, "Sylencia lied about me. I contribute. I do townie things. Sylencia lie." He says that Syl was focusing on other people than his main scumread (me?). Syl was focusing on Ghor being scum in that post, not myself. Why is Syl focusing on Ghor instead of me scummy? It's not ---> Ghor is nervous about something. He then proceeds to tunnel Sylencia the entire day based on this fact. On April 03 2013 01:56 Ghor wrote: ghor think hopeless braindead if he thinks ghor teammate with risk. ghor pointed out fallacies with risk early, try get proper opinion on him from sylencia. All reasoning laid out, hopeless not absorb it. Hopeless, question: Ghor saw the scumslip you pointed out that was none.Ghor answered to your assessment, what do you deduce from it? (Ghor deduces it another example of hopeless amazing reading comprehension) Ghor now has a scumread on Hopeless. He thinks Risk / Ghor scumteam, huh? Wrong! I pointed out all of these fallacies. His scumread on Hopeless seems to be based on the fact that Hopeless is an idiot rather than scum. What's really interesting is that Ghor never budges his Syl case and rides it to majority. On April 03 2013 11:04 Ghor wrote: Ghor in conflict, ghor not sure what make of risk. ghor also like hopeless and sylencia as lynch choices. ghor wonders, why you say you saving scum sylencia (cause you probably want to imply your motive is not being disruptive). ghor very curious why say scum sylencia. not simply sylencia, or town sylencia. Keeps Risk and Hopeless as an option but still never considers them seriously. On April 03 2013 20:49 Ghor wrote: ghor want kill sylencia very much, ghor think he look more scummy with each post. this look terrible terrible from sylencia. ghor facepalm, this more than just connection read, this connection justification for later bad push against ghor. whole play look terrible. ghor not need make case, sylencia filter is case. but ghor maybe try to make good case later, if town not convinced. ##Unvote ##Vote Sylencia Ghors mind: Shit, he's going to hammer Hopeless and I'll look terrible. He also thinks I look terrible anyway. BETTER RIDE THIS SYL LYNCH HOME BABY! Summary: - Ghor initially thinks Syl is scum because he lied about him, and said a bunch of mean things. Syl was pressuring Ghor, and Ghor no like this. - Ghor thinks Hopeless could be scum because he is 'braindead' and thinks Ghor is scum with risk. Only has this read after VE and myself call him out. - For someone who called Syl "Too self-centered", he seems to be very careful about his image and quick to retaliate; people who are suspect of him are his top scumreads. ##Vote: Ghor I don't think Risk is scum with Ghor, for the record. | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On April 05 2013 04:32 Lazermonkey wrote: I think its alarming that Hopeless two biggest scum reads are my biggest town reads atm ( Ghor and you). CC is spending far to much time casting insults at everyone. Its quite demoralizing and we need none of that. Lol. | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On April 05 2013 04:43 Ghor wrote: Got really sad when I saw Sylencia's flip. Didn't expect him to flip town at all  .I'm still not sure what to make of the risk vs hopeless situation, and I'll be busy very soon until tomorrow. I would like to advise to go through a few things (will do that myself once I have time, but I think it's where we have to look at). Still, quick rundown: Check everybody's scumreads before the lynch, especially for weak pushes or even absence (considered RoL's absence to be scummy, but he gave an excuse and promised activity for 4 days which seems rather townie). In that regard hopeless and risk still look equally bad to me cause they kinda dropped "casually" onto the sylencia lynch, and I would expect hopeless and CC to be more careful about sheeping their scumread's (me) case there (whereas hopeless said it was for self-preservation, will have to check if CC and hopeless gave out a sylencia read at all). I'll have to scrutiny CC some more in general cause I didn't really pay enough attention to him since the risk pressure thing, and I don't know why he thinks I'm scum. I would like to hear reasons for that. With that, I'll contribute more when I'm back and have more time. Good hunting. Are you serious right now Ghor? Lul. | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On April 05 2013 04:48 Ghor wrote: Oh ninjad by CC. Well I will only say one thing right now: My reads were based on more than just calling people braindead (and you'll have to prove your points by quoting my posts. Hint: You probably can't). And you say I only OMGUS people, but risk actually didn't say I'm scum. Your scumreads on Hopeless and Syl were based on the fact that they pressured and / or didn't like you. Risk was just a side project. | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
How the fudge can you have a town read on Ghor? He just tried to condemn 3 people for sheeping his own Syl case. | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On April 05 2013 05:07 Lazermonkey wrote: I think that is perfectly resonable given that you sheeped your scum read -.- Ghor has been one of the most productive players this game, with easy to follow logic. His reasoning makes alot of sense and is very similar to mine, which I think shows of a townie mindset. Are you that stupid? Where pre-lynch was Ghor my scumread hmmm? I guess tunneling a townie with your buddy Ghor over there is much much better, and then blame it on the guys who actually wanted to lynch Hopeless because you were too stubborn to switch over. Nice soft town claim btw. | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Why so afraid to take responsibility? The fact that Ghor / Lazer led a lynch on a townie isn't what is concerning -- it's the fact that they're like 'omg why did you kill that townie guys why did you switch over so scummy right now' | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On April 05 2013 05:23 Lazermonkey wrote: O.o Sorry, I kind of took his word for granted, that you had him as scum read that is. Well, this is somewhat interesting and it means Ghor lied in order to make you look worse... Ghor just rose quite alot on my scum-o-meter. Thank God. I was beginning to think you had no sense. | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On April 05 2013 06:00 Ghor wrote: most of the things he found scummy were very early in the game, but you do not see him call me out for that back then, instead bring them up summarized now after that he was able to sheep my case.i dont think his points are genuine or they would have been mentioned earlier.he called me out for some bad wording stuff not for the things he suddenly finds scummy. Ghor, you are so scum. You keep throwing suspicion on me, and not defending the actual points. You say that I 'sheeped your case', okay. Use that as your ammo against me --- I welcome it. Come on, buddy, watcha got? | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On April 05 2013 04:43 Ghor wrote: 1.)Got really sad when I saw Sylencia's flip. Didn't expect him to flip town at all .I'm still not sure what to make of the risk vs hopeless situation, and I'll be busy very soon until tomorrow. I would like to advise to go through a few things (will do that myself once I have time, but I think it's where we have to look at). Still, quick rundown: Check everybody's scumreads before the lynch, especially for weak pushes or even absence (considered RoL's absence to be scummy, but he gave an excuse and promised activity for 4 days which seems rather townie). 2.) In that regard hopeless and risk still look equally bad to me cause they kinda dropped "casually" onto the sylencia lynch, and I would expect hopeless and 3.) CC to be more careful about sheeping their scumread's (me) case there (whereas hopeless said it was for self-preservation, will have to check if CC and hopeless gave out a sylencia read at all). 4.) I'll have to scrutiny CC some more in general cause I didn't really pay enough attention to him since the risk pressure thing, and I don't know why he thinks I'm scum. I would like to hear reasons for that. With that, I'll contribute more when I'm back and have more time. Good hunting. 1.) Sympathy about a town being lynched. Ghor ensures the thread that he had no idea he would flip town, and he was saddened by this fact. 2.) Flings shit on a bunch of people for voting Syl. In reality, most of us went there because Ghor was stubborn enough to not change his vote. He doesn't take responsibility for the lynch, just blames the guys that were forced to vote. 3.) A blatant lie. He tries to condemn me for 'sheeping a scumread', when he was neither my scumread, nor did I sheep him. He tries to play it off like I did some terrible deed by avoiding a mislynch (coincidentally, my vote never mattered lol) 4.) Hmm... CC thinks I'm scum? I should set up things so I can suspect him later. On April 05 2013 05:55 Ghor wrote: posting from phone. ask yourself this question, A.) wasnt the stuff cheesecake mentions already there before the sylencia lynch?why does he only mention it after the lynch?he must have seen the things he mentions already before, evidence being B.) that there is also stuff in his filter that suggests he thinks im scum (posts that have ghor at top of them and various pressure), but he didnt say it outright.nothing changed about my reads except that C. ) i also suspect cc now. A.) Irrelevant to a defense. He ignores my points. B.) Pressure =/= scumread C.) Kinda Figured you would :D On April 05 2013 06:00 Ghor wrote: most of the things he found scummy were very early in the game, but you do not see him call me out for that back then, instead bring them up summarized now after that he was able to sheep my case.i dont think his points are genuine or they would have been mentioned earlier.he called me out for some bad wording stuff not for the things he suddenly finds scummy. Again, trying to discredit me for something that makes no sense. This scum is scared out of his pants. I also find it interesting that he gives RoL a townie read. | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On April 05 2013 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Cheese is manipulating Lazer. ##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake This man speaks the truth. | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Just something to get people noticing me. What say you to a Ghor lynch? | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On April 05 2013 07:52 VisceraEyes wrote: That's what I saw too GOSH! Like he calls him or his actions suspicious like every time he interacts with him, but it's always in the context of trying to get him to change his present behavior (defending Hopeless D1, defending Ghor D2). He even gives him a treat in the form of saying he's not dumb when he comes around to his way of thinking in their last interaction. Cheese what happened to your pulsating hardon for lynching Hopeless? I came. | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
I figured I'd get flak for it -- a lot of ppl have town reads on him. Don't care, I think he's scum. Good to know -- dontcha think? | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
| ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On April 05 2013 08:03 VisceraEyes wrote: But they're so out of left field, and there's already more than enough support to get a bandwagon on Hopeless going. So why was your first act NOT to question Hopeless, your preferred lynch yesterday? Why did you opt to, instead, start a new bandwagon on someone else? I don't care how aroused you are by lynching Hopeless because you're not voting for Hopeless and you've barely mentioned Hopeless this day. Ghor said something in his defense I'd like you to address. All of the stuff in your case was readily available to you yesterday. When you were pushing for Hopeless and you were clearly paying at least tertiary attention to Ghor, why didn't you raise any of the points in your case today against him yesterday when he was pushing for the Sylencia lynch? I for one was here, looking for input on where I should vote. You did NOTHING to try and convince me to vote for Hopeless, while Ghor took the time to prepare a whole case against Sylencia. Firsly, if I were scum you'd figure I'd just put Hopeless into the ground today. Just sayin. Seems like an easy mislynch if I were scum. I have my own opinions of Hopeless -- and what am I supposed to question him on? Hey bro, you probably scum so what do you think about that? About all the things being available yesterday; didn't click. Maybe Syl was scum and he was right. I never really looked at Ghor until Syl flipped town last night, and things struck me as really scummy in context of knowing Syls alignment. Of course I did nothing to convince you to vote for Hopeless because A) I was at work, typing on my damn phone under a table and B) Have already stated the evidence against him. Ghor taking time to prepare a case against Syl is, impressive actually. I'll have to take that into account. | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On April 05 2013 08:11 VisceraEyes wrote: These two statements contradict each other. In the first you express incredulity at the idea that Lazer has a town read on Ghor, and in the second you say you're aware that "a lot of ppl have town reads on him". I know people had town reads on him. I just don't agree with them. | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On April 05 2013 08:03 VisceraEyes wrote: and there's already more than enough support to get a bandwagon on Hopeless going. So, you think I'm scum because I'm not instantly hoping on a Hopeless bandwagon? How does that make any sense? | ||
|
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
| ||
| ||
