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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 01:26 GMT
#1568
WoS, but that's for another day.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 01:55 GMT
#1582
On April 25 2013 10:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
How do you feel about ShiaoPi rayn?

Probably scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 02:35 GMT
#1597
haha WoS! Let's go into a shouting contest? I'm kinda drunk too. :D
Ace why is VE not scum? Is there anything you find townie in his posts?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 02:42 GMT
#1600
On April 25 2013 11:38 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 11:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
haha WoS! Let's go into a shouting contest? I'm kinda drunk too. :D
Ace why is VE not scum? Is there anything you find townie in his posts?


I think he's more useless than Scum even with the small red flags earlier. I'm also hoping other people show up and weigh in before I vote for VE. We don't need a quick lynch today.

I agree with the quick hammer thing, bad memories.. But i don't just see nothing he has done that's townielike.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 02:45 GMT
#1601
Ace are you okey with lynching Clarity?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 13:47 GMT
#1642
I could lynch Sylencia because his post is so bad and full of misinformation and unexplained conclusions.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 17:42 GMT
#1705
On April 26 2013 01:47 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: lynching into Ace/BC/Palmar

Ehhhhhhhhhhh....I don't know if there's a case on BC somewhere that I'm missing, but is the fact that he's inactive right now a part of the case? And Ace is looking more town in this game than I've ever seen...but frankly that is a little disconcerting. :/

Ugh. I don't like the idea. I mean I'd lynch Palmar sure...but BC/Ace? Today? Seems silly. Scum will want them dead if they're town. In my opinion the fog should clear a little bit by tomorrow. I think tomorrow is a better time to make a lynch like that.

Your point on Ace could be disturbingly true. Anti town play that caused suspicion may have made him play more pro town today, which explains his behavior.

##Vote Ace

You are voting for Ace because he looks town? And you just said at the last page BC is red and Ace is null. Can you explain the logic?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 17:58 GMT
#1707
Why not let him be pro town and judge him if he gets scummy? Why not lynch someone who has been scummy the whole game in your eyes?

The place and even more the way you dropped your vote is really fishy. Why don't you want to lynch one of your red reads?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 18:28 GMT
#1711
yamato if Palmar is mafia, who got shot & docced instead in your opinion or are you seriously trying to sell the idea that mafia double stacked Vivax?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 18:46 GMT
#1717
Here's how i see things:
Vivax was shot because he was on the right track and town read for like everyone. This means probably at least one of ShiaoPi / Clarity is mafia. If Vivax was double stacked he was likely even more right in his reads. But i don't think this is the case here. It's clear that whoever jailed Palmar thought he was town. Town jailers do not jail offensively and mafia jailers do not jail defensively on N1. As there is no other flip than Vivax' it's highly likely that Palmar was shot, because i can't see who else scum would have shot over him. I'm not even going to go to the fact that this would also require a doctor to target the same (other than Palmar) target.

So unless someone else claims shot / roleblocked it's very likely that Palmar got shot and is town.

I don't like ShiaoPi lynch because it was brought up by VE who i think is scum. If Vivax was right on both of ShiaoPi/Clarity then it doesn't matter, but if one of them is town it's probably ShiaoPi. As i think Palmar is town, i do not think he is wrong about VE. But if VE is not gonna get lynched today, i'm going to vote for Clarity over ShiaoPi.

Now, you want to bring up an entirely different target in BC. Understandable, as you seem to think he is mafia. But you also bring up reasons why ShiaoPi/Clarity might be town. That is something i do not understand. If you think BC is better lynch than them, fine, push his lynch. But the way to do it is not by discrediting other people's cases unless you actually think they are town, which you don't seem to.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 18:47 GMT
#1718
EBWOP: above to yamato
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 18:58 GMT
#1719
Also your latest read on Clarity is really fishy and straight up contradicts with what you said on N1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 19:08 GMT
#1722
I have, WoS is probably scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 21:01 GMT
#1756
BC what do you think of the candidates who are/were on the table on D2 besides yamato, particularly VE, ShiaoPi, Clarity?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 21:06 GMT
#1760
Also BC, can you explain to me how Palmar is sheeping? From what i remember he was the first one to call Oats scum, switched to VE, and when that lynch didn't happen went back to voting Oats. Now he is pushing VE. I wouldn't call that sheeping.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 21:16 GMT
#1762
I'm not saying he was a wagon leader. I'm saying he called Oats scum at the start of the game, From what i know Oats didn't do anything to change that read. I'm just saying i don't consider Palmar's vote on Oats sheeping.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 21:22 GMT
#1764
And if you are going to use that as a basis of your argument here, doesn't this make all the other people than Vivax who voted for Oats sheeps? Including you. It also makes Ace a double-sheep because he first sheeped BC's case on yamato.

I don't really see your / BC's point against Palmar here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 21:23 GMT
#1765
On April 26 2013 06:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
He did, and even in the middle of the game when he posted his reads Oats was low on the ranking. Except look at the ranking itself.
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On April 23 2013 00:31 Palmar wrote:
List of probably town:

Bill Murray
getmoript (QT thing)
Vivax
slot machine dude
hopeless

list of maybe town:

Ace
grush
cheesecake
kush
Sylencia
TheRavensName

list of who knows:

WaveofShadow
Tube
Drazak
Clarity_nl
Sharrant
Yamato77
ShiaoPi

list of bloodycobblers:

BloodyCobbler

list of somewhat scummy fuckers (based on absolutely nothing):

DoctorHelvetica
ObviousOne
Oatsmaster
giggles


Also I'm not even on his radar, but out of nowhere he's got me as his #1 scumread? He doesn't fucking CARE Rayne. AT ALL.

rofl VE. He didn't include you into the lise because he voted for you right after. Idk what to say..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 21:25 GMT
#1767
Did you do that after or before Vivax' case?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 25 2013 21:40 GMT
#1778
On April 26 2013 06:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar, conversely, made one post at the very beginning of the game and that was it for his thougths on Oats. If you're counting that as "meaningful contribution to the Oats case" then there's either something seriously wrong with your metric or you're fucking scum. Take your pick, I'm done fucking talking to you unless you're willing to get your head out of your ass tunnel and think for a second.

Palmar doesn't always express his thoughts clearly, that's what i have learned during the last couple of games. I'm not sure he is 100% town but his reads seem accurate. To me it seems like your case on him is you trying to make the evidence (which i think is false) to fit your case and your case on him points more to you or even Ace being scum than him, because if we are honest here, neither of you have done jack shit to find scum this game.

That's what i think, and that's why i think we should lynch you.
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