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Stutters: Palmar's interaction with me. He clearly doesn't give a shit about the game, and he's hiding in his VE tunnel to excuse himself from doing anything productive. He's actively not giving a shit.
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On April 25 2013 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:24 Palmar wrote:On April 25 2013 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 25 2013 09:19 yamato77 wrote:
What's with people telling me how to play?
I know exactly what I'm doing. Actually you don't, your vote is on town and you're acting like a dickhole. Please reconsider your tactics. This isn't an order, it's a request. so you're absolutely convinced yamato is town? No, the post was written from the perspective that yamato posted his from - that he's town being told how to play. I'm not absolutely convinced of shit, but frankly his N1 posting looks a hell of a lot better than his D1 posting which I took issue with.
Any other questions that make it abundantly clear that in spite of your accusations you haven't even read my filter?
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On April 26 2013 07:36 getmoript wrote:
Is him trying to infuriate you specifically scummy? He was annoying in both hydra and PYP. How does that make him scum?
I actually missed this.
I'm known to shit up threads. This is a fact and you can ask anyone. It's not outside the realm of possibility and in fact is even viable for a scum team to try and throw me off balance by pissing me off. This is entirely speculative, but there's a direct scum motivation for getting into shit-fighting arguments with me - especially considering it's based on completely fabricated reasoning (I haven't done shit) that applies to other players MORE ACCURATELY.
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On April 26 2013 07:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Uhh.. how does that make sense as you seem to agree with BC on his case on yamato?
What posts have I made that "seem to agree with BC's case on yamato"?
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How about "I'm waiting to hear from yamato before commenting"?
You know....exactly what it says?
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On April 26 2013 07:50 getmoript wrote:
@VE: didn't you admit this game that your scum meta is to lurk in comparison to your town meta? Why are you proposing that activity is alignment indicative regardless of the player?
What are you talking about? Yes, I've said that my scum meta is lurky. What does that have to do with any argument I'm making whatsoever?
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Ouch. Sucks to be scum...dude was like invisible.
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On April 26 2013 07:54 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 07:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 26 2013 07:36 getmoript wrote:
Is him trying to infuriate you specifically scummy? He was annoying in both hydra and PYP. How does that make him scum? I actually missed this. I'm known to shit up threads. This is a fact and you can ask anyone. It's not outside the realm of possibility and in fact is even viable for a scum team to try and throw me off balance by pissing me off. This is entirely speculative, but there's a direct scum motivation for getting into shit-fighting arguments with me - especially considering it's based on completely fabricated reasoning (I haven't done shit) that applies to other players MORE ACCURATELY. NM I read it wrong. Let me take a different tack. Why would you expect both palmar and Rayn to be scum?
Why not? Do you have some kind of reasoning why that's not likely?
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On April 26 2013 07:59 getmoript wrote:
Dont you think that two scum coming out and supporting each other almost exclusively would be strange? Would palmar as scum trust another player like that? You know him better than me.
I'm not sure how this is relevant - there are all kinds of scenarios where scum would support each other in that situation. What do you mean by the bolded?
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On April 26 2013 07:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 07:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about "I'm waiting to hear from yamato before commenting"?
You know....exactly what it says? But BC didn't even ask you about yamato. Why did you think it was necessary to say that in the first place if you didn't think BC (your town read) is on the right track? I'm really confused about this...
I commented because I didn't want BC to think I'm ignoring his case completely - that the reason I'm not saying whether or not I agree with it is because I'm waiting on Yamato's response to it. I'm having a hard time believing that you can't understand this.
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At any rate I think Palmar is a better lynch than Rayn as a result of the modkill. My reasoning can be found in this post:On April 26 2013 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Something else that really bothers me is that a couple of times Palmar has talked about players who should be modkilled or how HE modkills in his games (like that's pertinent to finding scum in the LEAST anyway) Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 06:06 Palmar wrote:On April 22 2013 05:33 getmoript wrote:On April 22 2013 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Marvellosity (and only marvellosity) has been removed from the game for repeated refusal to follow the rules for out of game communication and being a dick to me.
Please keep all discussions of modkills until the post-game.
Getmoript has not been modkilled. Ok. I'll tell you how it is given BH is being an enormous megalomaniac. geript and I had a QT made for ourselves, which we have been using quite happily. BH decided that we should use the QT that he made, because he's a power-mad weirdo. I said we're fine with the QT that geript and I made thank you, and BH is now swinging his dick around, saying we're forced to use a QT that he made, despite the rules saying nothing about this, and despite the rules only having this restriction, which we followed: On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Hydras:
If one of the players would like to hydra with someone else, that is acceptable. Please inform me. Your hydra can have any name, but the signature should be something like "Hydra of Blazinghand and Ange777 for TL Mafia LXI" so that people know what's up.
There were no such rules for out-of-game communication other than that that BlazingHand just edited in to the rules so that he'd be justified being a douchebag. Anyway, glhf everyone!! ~marv tbh this should result in a modkill. It's super unfair to the mafia that he's allowed to reveal information about the nature of the hydra and how it interacts with the host that results in everyone just assuming they're town. It's also super unfair to town if they're somehow mafia despite all this. Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 05:44 Palmar wrote:On April 25 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:
Green font it and see if the mods make that info public. well yeah. In my games you get modkilled for directly asking the host a question in the thread, although I guess I also run my games a bit differently. In fact, what I did, imply that I was going to ask the host a question would probably get me modkilled in my own game anyway. So I wish I had just kept my mouth shut about it until BH clarified. thanks BH, for explaining. But when it comes to actual real modkillable offenses he's completely silent. Like tube's lack of posting for example. Why is Palmar ignoring tube, a player who has made literally one post in the game when Palmar has said the following? Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 00:48 Palmar wrote:
also being inactive in this game is unusally scummy because BH sent a pm to everyone in the game 24 hours before the game started which required a response to be in the game.
So everyone here is fully aware when the game started and reminded of it very close to the start of the game. So being afk or saying nothing is almost inexcusable.
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On April 26 2013 08:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 08:05 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 26 2013 07:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 26 2013 07:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about "I'm waiting to hear from yamato before commenting"?
You know....exactly what it says? But BC didn't even ask you about yamato. Why did you think it was necessary to say that in the first place if you didn't think BC (your town read) is on the right track? I'm really confused about this... I commented because I didn't want BC to think I'm ignoring his case completely - that the reason I'm not saying whether or not I agree with it is because I'm waiting on Yamato's response to it. I'm having a hard time believing that you can't understand this. But that's the reason why i don't understand it. What is there to fear if you have atm nothing to say to the case? Did you think BC is gonna call you out for not responding to his yamato case? If you got nothing to add or nothing to straight up disagree, why make a useless comment about the case in the first place?
Because BC posted it and obviously feels strongly about it. I want him to know that his contribution didn't go unnoticed, whether I commented on it or not. That's my reasoning dude, and that's the last I'm going to say on it. This question serves absolutely no purpose. None.
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Why is assuming a double-stack bad? And why would he be afraid of another player "giving him away" when he doesn't even give a shit about the game enough to not give HIMSELF away?
My problem with Palmar is NOT activity based. It's based on the actions he's chosen to take WHILE HERE. It has nothing to do with how much he's posted, at all.
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On April 26 2013 08:23 GiygaS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Something else that really bothers me is that a couple of times Palmar has talked about players who should be modkilled or how HE modkills in his games (like that's pertinent to finding scum in the LEAST anyway) On April 22 2013 06:06 Palmar wrote:On April 22 2013 05:33 getmoript wrote:On April 22 2013 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Marvellosity (and only marvellosity) has been removed from the game for repeated refusal to follow the rules for out of game communication and being a dick to me.
Please keep all discussions of modkills until the post-game.
Getmoript has not been modkilled. Ok. I'll tell you how it is given BH is being an enormous megalomaniac. geript and I had a QT made for ourselves, which we have been using quite happily. BH decided that we should use the QT that he made, because he's a power-mad weirdo. I said we're fine with the QT that geript and I made thank you, and BH is now swinging his dick around, saying we're forced to use a QT that he made, despite the rules saying nothing about this, and despite the rules only having this restriction, which we followed: On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Hydras:
If one of the players would like to hydra with someone else, that is acceptable. Please inform me. Your hydra can have any name, but the signature should be something like "Hydra of Blazinghand and Ange777 for TL Mafia LXI" so that people know what's up.
There were no such rules for out-of-game communication other than that that BlazingHand just edited in to the rules so that he'd be justified being a douchebag. Anyway, glhf everyone!! ~marv tbh this should result in a modkill. It's super unfair to the mafia that he's allowed to reveal information about the nature of the hydra and how it interacts with the host that results in everyone just assuming they're town. It's also super unfair to town if they're somehow mafia despite all this. On April 25 2013 05:44 Palmar wrote:On April 25 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:
Green font it and see if the mods make that info public. well yeah. In my games you get modkilled for directly asking the host a question in the thread, although I guess I also run my games a bit differently. In fact, what I did, imply that I was going to ask the host a question would probably get me modkilled in my own game anyway. So I wish I had just kept my mouth shut about it until BH clarified. thanks BH, for explaining. But when it comes to actual real modkillable offenses he's completely silent. Like tube's lack of posting for example. Why is Palmar ignoring tube, a player who has made literally one post in the game when Palmar has said the following? On April 23 2013 00:48 Palmar wrote:
also being inactive in this game is unusally scummy because BH sent a pm to everyone in the game 24 hours before the game started which required a response to be in the game.
So everyone here is fully aware when the game started and reminded of it very close to the start of the game. So being afk or saying nothing is almost inexcusable. The bolded may have just become a whole lot more meaningful.
Did it or did it not? What's your take? This post says nothing about your opinion.
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Okay, meaningful in what way? Do you agree that Palmar looks scummy for it? Or did you mean that I look scummy for posting it? DETAILS GUY!
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On April 26 2013 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 08:23 GiygaS wrote:On April 26 2013 05:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Something else that really bothers me is that a couple of times Palmar has talked about players who should be modkilled or how HE modkills in his games (like that's pertinent to finding scum in the LEAST anyway) On April 22 2013 06:06 Palmar wrote:On April 22 2013 05:33 getmoript wrote:On April 22 2013 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Marvellosity (and only marvellosity) has been removed from the game for repeated refusal to follow the rules for out of game communication and being a dick to me.
Please keep all discussions of modkills until the post-game.
Getmoript has not been modkilled. Ok. I'll tell you how it is given BH is being an enormous megalomaniac. geript and I had a QT made for ourselves, which we have been using quite happily. BH decided that we should use the QT that he made, because he's a power-mad weirdo. I said we're fine with the QT that geript and I made thank you, and BH is now swinging his dick around, saying we're forced to use a QT that he made, despite the rules saying nothing about this, and despite the rules only having this restriction, which we followed: On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Hydras:
If one of the players would like to hydra with someone else, that is acceptable. Please inform me. Your hydra can have any name, but the signature should be something like "Hydra of Blazinghand and Ange777 for TL Mafia LXI" so that people know what's up.
There were no such rules for out-of-game communication other than that that BlazingHand just edited in to the rules so that he'd be justified being a douchebag. Anyway, glhf everyone!! ~marv tbh this should result in a modkill. It's super unfair to the mafia that he's allowed to reveal information about the nature of the hydra and how it interacts with the host that results in everyone just assuming they're town. It's also super unfair to town if they're somehow mafia despite all this. On April 25 2013 05:44 Palmar wrote:On April 25 2013 05:35 Ace wrote:
Green font it and see if the mods make that info public. well yeah. In my games you get modkilled for directly asking the host a question in the thread, although I guess I also run my games a bit differently. In fact, what I did, imply that I was going to ask the host a question would probably get me modkilled in my own game anyway. So I wish I had just kept my mouth shut about it until BH clarified. thanks BH, for explaining. But when it comes to actual real modkillable offenses he's completely silent. Like tube's lack of posting for example. Why is Palmar ignoring tube, a player who has made literally one post in the game when Palmar has said the following? On April 23 2013 00:48 Palmar wrote:
also being inactive in this game is unusally scummy because BH sent a pm to everyone in the game 24 hours before the game started which required a response to be in the game.
So everyone here is fully aware when the game started and reminded of it very close to the start of the game. So being afk or saying nothing is almost inexcusable. The bolded may have just become a whole lot more meaningful. I think it's kinda WIFOMy. If i was using that as evidence i could say why didn't VE bring up DrH/Stutters & Drazak/Artanis? Does it make him scum?
Because neither of those players you just mentioned just flipped scum and tube did?
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OO you're much more enjoyable when you're posting friend.
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On April 26 2013 08:29 GiygaS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 08:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, meaningful in what way? Do you agree that Palmar looks scummy for it? Or did you mean that I look scummy for posting it? DETAILS GUY! I think Palmar looks scummy for it. Before I honestly just considered it reaching, but now that tube has come up as scum, it is something that is notable in whether Palmar is scum or not. I'll be reevaluating my opinion on him after reading his filter again.
I look forward to hearing your conclusions after rereading his filter. Shouldn't take long, but I recommend you look at the posts in context too.
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On April 26 2013 08:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hi.
VE Town, BC case bad.
Any question?
Yeah. You're basing the whole of your play on host-WIFOM so far - all you've contributed meaningfully was the idea that we should lynch into vets in spite of the fact that you think "even if they don't look town they can solve the game". Finding that to be cognitive dissonance and would like you to comment on who you think is scum rather than give wishy-washy statements about limiting the lynch today. Thanks, and good day.
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On April 26 2013 08:36 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
OO you're much more enjoyable when you're posting friend. I'm leaving for a couple hours to hit the gym in a few minutes. I'm also sort of looking at what's unfolding based on my early push of you today and it's interestingly polarizing. Sorry it had to be you. I can't read you. I thought you were mafia in LX. I knew you were mafia in Nomination and Hydra Mini and Boardwalk for reasons you already know. I really want to get a better handle on your town game mentality, so I will be fishing through your old games to get a slightly better handle on you but I will not be providing a meta case unless it will be for me to decide if I want to push you further. Originally after I said I wanted to vote you, you started to go for sheeping Vivax's final read. I thought wow, that's convenient, he's on to the same case as the most recent confirmed town. Wasn't pleased. I am warming up to you and you have certainly given me enough to work with for my own private meta read / feel of you. Your interactions with my main scum read are slightly suspect because you are both essentially calling each-other town and I want to take that viewpoint into consideration regarding BC when I read his most recent contributions again after going through your old town games. I am glad you didn't actually ragequit about the Rayn thing. Yes it's annoying when he seems to make shit up, but I've realized after three games together with him he sees things a little bit differently and I take his accusations with a grain of salt. His attack on you where he made shit up doesn't necessarily make him scum to me, because he did the same exact thing in Red Team's Prize (our first game together).
The difference is that in that game he eventually saw reason where here he keeps reaching - but frankly it could have just been you getting lynched that opened his eyes in RTP. :/
I look forward to your conclusions. If you could walk me through your suspicion of BC that would be supreme. When you get back-like.
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