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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On April 25 2013 01:39 Sharrant wrote: Kush is so town it's not even funny. Sylencia I'm really sure about, I want him to explain that post more. slip | ||
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
It's a typo, BM. Join in the fun, have a conversation with those of us that aren't vets. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:00 Bill Murray wrote: how is that a typo? you are slipping regarding you having too much information, and therefore, mafia Like I said to someone else already, run with that if you think you can. It was a typo. Now, like I said, join in the conversation. What do you think of Sylencia's post and the fact that he did not stick around to clarify it at all? | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
It's a null tell that he isn't here. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:04 Bill Murray wrote: makes me lean town on him, but I want to see more before it's more than a lean. sorry to doublepost. Good to know. What do you think of WoS right now? @WaveofShadows You didn't dispute me, or respond when I said Kush was super town. Am I to believe that you agree that he is town? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:07 ObviousOne wrote: Getting on Syl for activity is like getting on Mocsta for spamming. It is what it is. From what I remember in TTABEN mafia he only really gets to post a couple times a day. Yeah it's not a great post. I'd like to see where it's headed. Let's see what he makes of it when he returns instead of starting an activity argument that he will probably feel compelled to defend himself against therefore continuing the cycle of not having time to give reads. I don't want him to defend himself, I just want him to clarify why the people he summaried were chosen, and what the end result was on the people that he did not explicitly state were scummy. I'm led to assume they're town, but I'd just like to be sure that's what he's saying. His activity isn't an issue to me, most people jump on me for my lack of activity, so I view it as null in most cases anyways. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:10 Sharrant wrote: I don't want him to defend himself, I just want him to clarify why the people he summaried were chosen, and what the end result was on the people that he did not explicitly state were scummy. I'm led to assume they're town, but I'd just like to be sure that's what he's saying. His activity isn't an issue to me, most people jump on me for my lack of activity, so I view it as null in most cases anyways. Righteous. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:06 Sharrant wrote: Good to know. What do you think of WoS right now? @WaveofShadows You didn't dispute me, or respond when I said Kush was super town. Am I to believe that you agree that he is town? i was leaning town on him until theravensname brought up some points and it made me feel like WoS is a bit opportunistic | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Will be back much later tonight, sorry Sharrant. I think I'm null on Kush? Can't remember I have to go. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote: My fucking blackberry just bricked so now I'm frantically trying to fix it before heading out to a party. Will be back much later tonight, sorry Sharrant. I think I'm null on Kush? Can't remember I have to go. Holy shit afternoon parties? WHERE AT MAYBE YOU ARE NEAR TORONTO?! I want to /in | ||
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:14 Bill Murray wrote: i was leaning town on him until theravensname brought up some points and it made me feel like WoS is a bit opportunistic Okay, we're mostly on the same page there, then. If he had said he thought Kush was town, it would've been a big hint towards him being scum. So his last few posts actually made me think he was a little more townie again. | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
On April 25 2013 01:36 Sharrant wrote: Hey, Sylencia, glad to see you around. It looks like you put in a lot of work going through filters, but I don't see a lot of reads, just a lot of summary. Is this a list of your top suspects or just a collection of players? Because at one point you actually mention yourself on your list, and that just seems a little strange to me. I can tell you've got a scum read on VE, and at least a bit of a scum read on Grush, does this mean the other players are also suspicious in your eyes or are they town or null? I'm just having a bit of trouble making heads or tails of it all. I've been going through people as a collection (hence why the list is so messy), yet going through them I found myself to become more suspicious of VE and grush so far. Unless something pretty much proves them to be innocent, I don't generally find true town reads since it's dependent on having information you don't have. In any case, no one on that list (other than myself) I can say that I have a strong town read on, Wave of Shadow is probably the person on that current list I have the least suspicion on, but in any case, I am more concerned with the ones I find most suspicious, not the least. | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
(Am I not allowed to go watch Game of Thrones after posting) | ||
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:23 Sylencia wrote: I've been going through people as a collection (hence why the list is so messy), yet going through them I found myself to become more suspicious of VE and grush so far. Unless something pretty much proves them to be innocent, I don't generally find true town reads since it's dependent on having information you don't have. In any case, no one on that list (other than myself) I can say that I have a strong town read on, Wave of Shadow is probably the person on that current list I have the least suspicion on, but in any case, I am more concerned with the ones I find most suspicious, not the least. Okay, so would it be accurate to say anyone on that list not explicitly marked as suspicious ranges somewhere in slight townie-null-slight scummy? Or townie-slight townie-null-slight scummy? And is there a specific reason you chose those people to start with? And last but not least, can you give me a quick read on Yamato? | ||
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:26 Sylencia wrote: Also, are you guys actually serious about grush starsenses things... That's like saying WoS isn't scum becuase he hasn't rolled scum. (Am I not allowed to go watch Game of Thrones after posting) I don't put any weight in it, but he hasn't popped up on my radar yet as someone I think is scummy. | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
On April 22 2013 20:45 Sylencia wrote: Comments / Observations: - Oats v Palmar early on. The way I read it, Oats seemingly made a joke statement about Palmar, yet the response was ever so serious. Palmar: Is your vote just parked on Oats while you look for actual suspicious people or do you seriously believe that Oats was calling you out there? Since it's instant majority lynch, a single vote doesn't really matter until we get to 10+ votes, but I'm just interested if your read on Oats has changed since the initial accusation. This is an exceptionally interesting quote. Sylencia is saying that he has a town read on Oats. I don't see any particular reason early in Oat's filter to think that he's town. Neither is there any sort of reasoning for this read given. This is an odd way of saying "Palmar, what is your current read on Oats?" On April 22 2013 20:45 Sylencia wrote: Trying. Not easy though, 20 pages of catchup doesn't make it easy to digest the content. One of the points from Gonzaw's case on Artanis in PYP was that scum tend to complain about activity more than town. On April 22 2013 20:45 Sylencia wrote: From the pages regarding TRN and Rayn, both have been hard at work defending each other, though I don't really understand the point being raised about why Rayn isn't scum. Was he scum when he tunneled or was he town? Rayn has shown tendencies in other games to shotgun vote and accuse others, and it's seen here and from your games he can tunnel too. His behaviour is erratic and so unless there's points regarding the content being townie, I don't think anything can be said about the way he plays. You dislike Sharrant, so does that mean you suspect him or are you just putting it out there? Does Rayn's activity put him in the town books for you, because while it can be used as a basis for a case when none others appear, it's pretty alignment indicitive. If it's not part of your reasoning behind it, why is rayn already town in your eyes? Summary. Null conclusion. Question. Null conclusion. Question. On April 22 2013 20:45 Sylencia wrote: I'm somewhat doing the same, so I'm wondering how you can see someone as town without looking at the whole picture. I haven't really got any town reads due to this, but the fact you're able to either means you're doing something wrong, or you know something we don't. So because Sylencia hasn't gotten any town reads out of the back and forth, no one else can? Like, WTF? That doesn't make any sense. On April 22 2013 20:45 Sylencia wrote: Rayn: Pushing for all millers to die (and voting on it) on day 1 honestly doesn't sound like a great plan. It wastes days where there's actually stuff to analyse, it creates a lazy town atmosphere which only helps scum, and with that comes a lot less conversation. You said you thought that BM was scum but what makes him so much more scummy at the time than someone else with low number of posts and providing just words and not content (eg. me)? Well one thing is absolutely right here: Sylencia has posted a lot of words without any actual content. The real kicker of the post for me is this: On April 22 2013 20:45 Sylencia wrote:In any case: This looks so dumb honestly. Ok, I'm done for now, ##vote rayn at the moment because of the weirdest irregularities in posts. Throughout the whole post Sylencia hasn't said 1 thing that has pointed to Rayn being scum. Not a single thing. As a matter of fact, Sylencia is calling out Rayn for wanting to lynch BM for being scum but not giving actual reasons for him being scum. So what does Sylencia do pray tell? Not give any reason for Rayn being scum whatsoever. At best this is a policy vote to remove stupidity from the thread. On April 23 2013 23:58 Sylencia wrote: Oats is the vote for me. Case from Vivax + aftermath between yamato vs Oats has convinced me more to taking down Oats. The thing that was holding me back most was that my primary scum suspect (rayn) was on Oats fairly early on. Bland +1 On April 23 2013 23:58 Sylencia wrote: Given that Oats never actually provided anything for us in terms of reads afterwards and posted crap about being green and telling people to push others. If he has nothing to say either: a) He's playing as the bad townie b) He's withholding that info from us to stop us from gaining more than we need from the lynch. Either case is bad for town, so that's why I'm willing to go down on Oats. ##Unvote ##Vote Oats Read this twice. Do you ever see any inclination that Sylencia thinks that Oats is scum here? It's not A--Bad Townie vs B--Scum. It's A--Bad Townie vs B--withholding information. What information could someone be withholding on D1? None. Period. You either think Oats was town or you think he's scum. Sylencia is still reading Oats as town AND still voting for Oats. On April 25 2013 01:28 Sylencia wrote: Sylencia: Semi-suspected TRN due to the rayn defense provided Suspects Rayn due to inconsistent statements about miller lynch / scum suspicion of BM Wagoned on Oats due to lack of town contribution from Oats. Bald faced lie. Sure Oats didn't contribute much. But if that's the case then Sylencia voted him for being bad town which is not a reason to vote for someone period. Seeing as how Sylencia didn't think Oats was scum anyways why 180 on why he voted for him? Image control, nothing more. tldr doesn't seem to be trying to figure out the game has inexplicable reads doesn't give actual reads just could be X or Y mentality for voting doesn't fit town mentality concerned with image | ||
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