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On April 25 2013 02:23 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 01:36 Sharrant wrote:
Hey, Sylencia, glad to see you around. It looks like you put in a lot of work going through filters, but I don't see a lot of reads, just a lot of summary. Is this a list of your top suspects or just a collection of players? Because at one point you actually mention yourself on your list, and that just seems a little strange to me.
I can tell you've got a scum read on VE, and at least a bit of a scum read on Grush, does this mean the other players are also suspicious in your eyes or are they town or null? I'm just having a bit of trouble making heads or tails of it all. I've been going through people as a collection (hence why the list is so messy), yet going through them I found myself to become more suspicious of VE and grush so far. Unless something pretty much proves them to be innocent, I don't generally find true town reads since it's dependent on having information you don't have. In any case, no one on that list (other than myself) I can say that I have a strong town read on, Wave of Shadow is probably the person on that current list I have the least suspicion on, but in any case, I am more concerned with the ones I find most suspicious, not the least.
Wtf man, i though I was definitely scum as you voted for me (for reasons i don't even understand) on D1.
Y U no hate me anymore?
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On April 25 2013 03:39 getmoript wrote:
@rayn/TRN what do you think of my points on Sylencia?
I think Sylencia gets a downgrade to the red list in my reads.
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I'm glad you seem to understand me Sharrant. I feel sorry for you (us) for wasting a good portion of D1.. :/
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I have to agree with you, shitfests between townies are actually beneficial as people need to take a stance on those things. Scum are unlike to say "stop it you guys, you are both likely town".
tbh i'm known of shitfests between townies. :D
dunno if that's a good or bad thing.
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On April 25 2013 05:53 kushm4sta wrote:
inb4 scumpalmar was roleblocked and thats why theres only 1 nk
Mafia factional KP can't be blocked.
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Seems more likely that town Palmar got shot and docced/jailed.
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On April 25 2013 06:07 kushm4sta wrote:
mafia factional KP can't be blocked?? then he is pretty close to confirmed town as far as im concerned.
Not necessarily, if someone else got docced and he was just jailed/RB'd. But likely yes.
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TRN:
Rayn I'm not sure I understand. Why did Sharant go from being a scum target for you to instant town? Seeing as how I'm not as sure on my read outside of a town leniancy on Sharant, can you explain and convert me to your belief?
Because whether or not he is right or wrong i can now understand his thought process about what he has said, and it makes sense to me from town PoV.
VE:
Isn't mafia jailer kinda roleblocker, at least on N1? What makes you think otherwise?
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On April 25 2013 06:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jailer is the only roleblocker unless I'm missing something...there is no scum or town "Roleblocker"
Mafia jailer is nothing more than a roleblocker on N1, as vigis can't shoot on N1. There is no reason why anyone who is town would assume mafia would block one of their own, or why town jailor would block an assumed mafia dude. What VE says here is dumb and misleading. And VE is not dumb.
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On April 25 2013 06:20 Ace wrote:
rayne VE has trouble reading the OP lol
That's kinda funny because he knew there was no roleblocker and that jailers are the only roleblockers. So is he reading the OP only partly?
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On April 25 2013 06:21 getmoript wrote:
Rayn correct me if I'm wrong, but your theory is that scum jailed Palmar and double stacked Vivax. Right?
No, i'm saying it's likely that Palmar was jailed by town and scum shot him.
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With 25 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch.
WE GOTZ SOULSZZZZ HERE!! BEWARE!
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Would be nice if scum posted aswell, besides VE ofc.
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On April 25 2013 09:12 VisceraEyes wrote:Vivax' case on Shiao is strong, and I think he's a high priority target for today. ##Unvote
##Vote: ShiaoPiVivax' points were "Low involvement, opportunistic returns to the thread" which I largely agree with. I'd add "conveniently keeping options open". Observe. Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 12:32 ShiaoPi wrote:On April 22 2013 12:24 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 12:07 ShiaoPi wrote:On April 22 2013 12:05 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 11:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
Oh if you have paid close attention to TRN then what is your stance on him now?
I am calling you scummy That he's fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and most likely town. What made you change your mind? This response is terribly lacking.... He realized that Rayn could be setting him up to give him town cred when he flipped. When Rayn stepped in to defend him I was sure TRN was either lynchbait, or one of Rayn's teammates. It seems more likely at this point he is lynchbait. TRN only had a small chance of actually being mafia, but a very good chance of attracting mafia attention either by virtue of A) being a weak player which they can use as town credit or to manipulate or B) was a weak mafia player who they could protect while looking like they're just trying to help out the new player. Rayn came in with a town read on him whose strength did not match what I had read in TRN's filter, so he was the person I was looking for. I find it interesting you see nothing at all to discuss between Rayn and Hopeless. At least more content than your last answer. If TRN only had a small chance of actually being mafia, why did you vote him? Isn't that fulfilling your own conclusion that you are mafia, by virtue of going after the lynchbait? What the fuck dude? Now what do you make of all the others who also defended TRN? All team mafia?? What do you say about Ace and others who also had a townread (or at least null) on TRN? Look at the bolded statement. In no way does this post give a further opinion on Sharrant. Up to this post, he's ONLY expressed suspicion for Sharrant - but never calls him scum or even scummy. In fact, he never calls ANYONE scum OR scummy in the entire game. His whole filter is nothing but a smoke-screen, intended to make him look like he's paying attention to the game. But you'll notice that he never comments on anything that isn't Bill Murray or The Sharrant Discussion. And this is in spite of "shittons of catch up". ShiaoPi should be the lynch today imo. It was Vivax' last wish, and his case is strong.
VE, who have you called scum in this game before this case?
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On April 25 2013 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 25 2013 09:12 VisceraEyes wrote:Vivax' case on Shiao is strong, and I think he's a high priority target for today. ##Unvote
##Vote: ShiaoPiVivax' points were "Low involvement, opportunistic returns to the thread" which I largely agree with. I'd add "conveniently keeping options open". Observe. On April 22 2013 12:32 ShiaoPi wrote:On April 22 2013 12:24 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 12:07 ShiaoPi wrote:On April 22 2013 12:05 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 11:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
Oh if you have paid close attention to TRN then what is your stance on him now?
I am calling you scummy That he's fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and most likely town. What made you change your mind? This response is terribly lacking.... He realized that Rayn could be setting him up to give him town cred when he flipped. When Rayn stepped in to defend him I was sure TRN was either lynchbait, or one of Rayn's teammates. It seems more likely at this point he is lynchbait. TRN only had a small chance of actually being mafia, but a very good chance of attracting mafia attention either by virtue of A) being a weak player which they can use as town credit or to manipulate or B) was a weak mafia player who they could protect while looking like they're just trying to help out the new player. Rayn came in with a town read on him whose strength did not match what I had read in TRN's filter, so he was the person I was looking for. I find it interesting you see nothing at all to discuss between Rayn and Hopeless. At least more content than your last answer. If TRN only had a small chance of actually being mafia, why did you vote him? Isn't that fulfilling your own conclusion that you are mafia, by virtue of going after the lynchbait? What the fuck dude? Now what do you make of all the others who also defended TRN? All team mafia?? What do you say about Ace and others who also had a townread (or at least null) on TRN? Look at the bolded statement. In no way does this post give a further opinion on Sharrant. Up to this post, he's ONLY expressed suspicion for Sharrant - but never calls him scum or even scummy. In fact, he never calls ANYONE scum OR scummy in the entire game. His whole filter is nothing but a smoke-screen, intended to make him look like he's paying attention to the game. But you'll notice that he never comments on anything that isn't Bill Murray or The Sharrant Discussion. And this is in spite of "shittons of catch up". ShiaoPi should be the lynch today imo. It was Vivax' last wish, and his case is strong. VE, who have you called scum in this game before this case? Rayn what does that have to do with anything? That's not even my point - my point is that Sharrant is the only person Shiao EVEN MIGHT POSSIBLY think is scum based on his posts.
You have posted like 2x what ShiaoPi has. I'm not saying he is town, but you are scum for sure. You are throwing shit left and right, have no reads at all or they are based on shit, you are not interested in finding scum at all. That's it.
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On April 25 2013 09:46 Sharrant wrote:
Hey, VE, are you at all interested in lynching Clarity, or just ShiaoPi?
I'm kinda interested in the fact that all my scum/null reads who did not vote for VE, voted for ShiaoPi and didn't mention Clarity at all.
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EBWOP: voted = wanted to lynch
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Any other people you feel are scummy and being overlooked, Rayn?
What do you mean?
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