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On May 01 2013 03:19 WaveofShadow wrote:

This post is interesting now. Note how more than half the scumteam is contained within. (If you don't believe I'm town or Sharrant is, then ignore the green) Note also instead of calling them 'somewhat scummy,' which isn't even committing to a read, (especially since he says it's based on nothing) he groups them into 'who knows' to avoid even associating the word scumy with them. CONTINUING THE REAADDDD I'll try to consolidate my next post just wanted to get this one out thar

On May 01 2013 03:57 WaveofShadow wrote:

This one is a point FOR town Palmar becuase I can't see them making the decision to bus Clarity this early when he was actually active, unless they realized his play was so shitty he'd be going down immediately.


Here his agreement with Rayn puts VE in the position he is in if scum. The bus is more likely to have begun here, but can't be sure of stuff yet. VE was looking scummy earlier on in the game to be fair to Palmar,but he was not a likely lynch that day. The push onto VE overall though looks really bad since trying to push a 3rd possibly-town wagon when two scum are up for lynch...well......


This looks like the post where scum Palmar realizes his push is a bad idea.


On the topic of the TRN Mason QT. Says he forgot about it his story is somewhat corroborated by TRN...though I can't understand why you wouldn't interact at all with your masoner unless you worried about them picking up a read on you. The fact that Palmar uses the fact that TRN masoned him as evidence as to his towniness reads to me that he has no idea about TRN's play or the fact that he is new at the game (I picked him as town ages ago, I'm fairly sure others have as well) and so is worried about the potential for TRN outing him as scum when in fact TRN's chances of doing so as being new to Palmar's play are probably low.


SO here he mentions I was the one TRN brought up that he didn't feel like looking into. Ok, I get that, but just the day before he says this:

Wouldn't this make me a suspect of his and someone he's likely to have read? Especially since I'm pretty sure I claimed miller before TRN's mason time ended and was super high on EVERYONE's suspicion list.

Palmar then begins to buddy up to his previous scumread in VE to try and get BC lynched. Presumably this is due to his N1 and N2 checks, which makes sense and is a point for Palmar having told the truth. (The long con is definitely possible, but is that likely to Palmar's scumplay? I don't know him that well.)


I called Palmar out for this earlier and he never responded; which important townies had Palmar's back at this point? I didn't count many despite his crusade for action against 'the cobbler.'


I REALLY didn't like this post at the time. We know there's 3rd party and 3 scum left here so we certainly did not have 'plenty of townies.' Everything he says about being a cop though isn't provable one way or the other as of yet at this point; the rb and his checks check out. I don't know I don't like the idea that he making mislynches feel better than they actually would have been but it's such a scummy thing to post knowing the math that I don't see scum doing it.



Well knowing what we know now....
I don't if anything can be said about this since everyone more or less agreed Sylencia didn't look great, but to say Shiao looked TOWNY is a GROSS overstatement. I also remember asking at some point whoever found Shiao towny, WHY did they think so and no one ever answered.
Hmm.



Alright sadly I don't have much to conclude about this case. Imo the scum points outweigh the town points just based on his filter and he's had a cba attitude for much of the game. We can't even discern his alignment based on his checks either because he didn't follow the plan which looks scummy as well. If he is telling thr truth he must be either paranoid or insane (which would make him exactly the same as CC? Same role AND same alignment? Unlikely imo....) and if he's paranoid he's more or less useless, no? I dunno guys, help me out.

I'm leaning scum overall but we have nother night of NKs ahead of us before we must act.

On May 04 2013 03:29 yamato77 wrote:

I very clearly argued against an Oats lynch, but thanks for showing how little attention you're paying to this game.

On May 04 2013 04:12 yamato77 wrote:
You're just mad you're going to lose.

On May 04 2013 04:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I have had Palmar as a scum read for days dude. You don't need to convince me of it.

On May 04 2013 04:58 Palmar wrote:
Bc are you cool with a 1 - 2 punch for us?

You're absolutely certain that I am scum. I am absolutely certain you are scum. Town has plenty of mislynches. We randomly choose one of us to die today, then the other flips the next day.

On May 04 2013 05:09 Palmar wrote:
@wos do you want me to explain why that case is wrong?

I kinda meant to ignore you, but I can respond to it if you want me to

On May 04 2013 05:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


i figured that was happening regardless

On May 04 2013 05:20 Palmar wrote:


. As long as you're absolutely 100% cool with an automatic lynch on you when I flip town. I don't even care if I get lynched tomorrow. Hell let's just lynch me and get it over with!

On May 04 2013 05:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


If you flip town we have both had an atrocious game

On May 04 2013 05:35 Palmar wrote:
Also BC, until tomorrow I have a new game for us.

I actually didn't expect you to be so willing to trade your life for mine, as 1 for 1 scum/town is terrible at this point in the game, and you kinda look like you've accepted that if I flip town you'll die.

So, now I think there's a tiny chance you may actually somehow be town. And since it's not like we can murder each other let's play the game a tiny bit differently. You and I assume each other are confirmed town, and we scumhunt in the rest of town.

I have some free time tonight, you in?

On May 04 2013 05:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


I have some time I can likely spare tonight. Might as well

On May 04 2013 05:46 Palmar wrote:


ok I'll be back an about 30m-1h

First topic: My very strong townread on Bill Murray based on his day 1 posting. I was not kidding when I said "towniest fucker in the thread" His play is enormously different from what I've come to expect of scum murray.

Would you agree that BM shouldn't be a lynch candidate?

respond, and throw me one of your reads. Let's ping pong the remaining players like that.

On May 04 2013 06:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


As things stand now I find it very unlikely for him to be mafia. He hasn't done much but what he does done reeks of someone who is strongly town aligned.


I want to hear your opinion on stutters. Guy has replaced in for drH and since joining the game has done absolutely nothing that I would consider helpful in any sense. What say you?

On April 27 2013 04:19 Stutters695 wrote:
One of them is done, I have a few more next week but this was the hardest one.

Of the people who seem lynchable today:

VE: I really don't see how VE is doing anything lynchable that ShiaoPi isn't doing worse. I disagree with his reads, but I'm not seeing the "lazy" VE that Palmar is mentioning. At least not to the extent that he should be lynched over some of these other people.

ShiaoPi: Pretty much the only thing I've said in my few posts. Easily my choice for a lynch currently. When I was catching up before joining I noticed similar things to VE and Vivax on that. He hammered a town player (would be understandable if he had expressed any interest before that) and has actively been avoiding major topics.

Clarity-nl: TBH he doesn't seem as bad as others are making him sound but I need to go over his stuff in context of the thread. Again I see questionable stuff but nothing that comes close to what i see as shady about Shiao.

On April 26 2013 07:34 Stutters695 wrote:
VE:I thought between the Vivax case and your points that the case on Shiao was pretty good. What specifically made you switch to Palmar over Shiao? I can understand why Palmar's posting is like he is, but Shiao has hammered oats when he hadn't interacted or even mentioned him all game with a very weak justification (Oats wasn't doing shit so why not hammer him for info [which he never brought up again]). I'm just not following what made you so sold on Palmar over him.