TL Mafia LXI - Page 227

On May 04 2013 02:03 Palmar wrote:
Where did I purposely fuck with the thread BC? Prove that I have please.

On May 04 2013 02:05 Stutters695 wrote:



No 3p and off of memory (plus the database for the really old games) it's something like this:
NMMXXIV
NMMXXVI
NMMXXVII
NMMXXVIII
Whose Line Mini
Yet Another Normal Mini
Personality 2
Themed Game Mafia
MTG Mini II
Mafia LIX


I believe that puts me at 10. All VT unless they were themed. I'm so boring lol

On May 04 2013 02:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


I did, and then you came in and went "luls nope you"

So go fuck yourself. You can misslynch me and then do what you should have done which is listen to players who have done something this game. Have I been the most active player? No, however have I purposely fucked with the thread to the level Palmar has? Have I directly promised to analyze players and not done so? Have I made up a bullshit claim to get someone I want lynched lynched? Have I said I am doing x because I felt like it and no reason else?

I have been more inactive than normal yes, but I have a busy life. I have at least attempted to state my opinions in some way that people can understand. If you honestly want to believe I am mafia then go for it. Just keep in mind that VE who flipped town as well as Ace who was instrumental in raping the mafia with a stick both said lynching me was stupid and had very similar mafia reads to my own. So even if you think I am scum. You can go back and double check the reads of those people who have flipped and realize maybe the guy whos still alive, who has been on a similar track to those that are dead who were pushing down mafia like flies? Maybe you should listen to him/them.

However I know this won't convince you, you will lynch me, I flip town, and you will then go lynch completely other people because your not going to read over posts of those who died.

On May 02 2013 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm pretty interested in BC's lack of torch and pitchfork where WoS is concerned. He seemed like dead set on Wave dying because of the miller claim. Now? Not so much...

On May 02 2013 00:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yamato the Hopeless case is sound.

That wasn't so hard was it?

On May 04 2013 02:12 yamato77 wrote:
Let's lynch BC tomorrow.

On May 03 2013 02:58 Stutters695 wrote:
Well after reading the case side by side with BCs filter here's what I see:

Self-aware Miller part: I wasn't around when this happened but reading it originally I agreed that Miller claiming is dumb. Not necessarily lynchable depending on circumstances but your entire paragraph falls flat because you can't discern when a scum does it and by not lynching them you've opened an avenue to get out of cop checks.

His long post where he mentions Yamato and CC and the four posts after: Consolidating wasn't the right word there but you're taking it out of context. I interpreted that as Yamato wasn't trying to actively get him lynched despite being the only constant read. Not sure if that's true as I haven't re-read that section in context with Yamato's posts. I'll have to check that when I have more time, but right now that's more null than anything else (if he is misrepresenting Yamato it is much more concerning).

The four posts after were within twenty minutes of the original post. If he had nothing else to add and VE was the only other poster the hell do you expect him to do other than comment about other issues in town?

The further into the case the more I agree with it however those points concerned me. I would like to hear his reasoning for the remainder of it but just reading it before without his filter and having those doubts I wasn't convinced without reading his filter myself. Still would prefer Hopeless but with the Palmar BC interactions I'd like to wait for BC to actually respond and Palmar's promised post.

On May 04 2013 02:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Has Palmar done anti-town stuff? Yes. Does playing anti-town make you scum? No. You should know that. Palmar is playing a game of not giving a shit, that doesn't make him scum. You've played a game in which you do appear to give a shit, yet never gave a shit for who actually got lynched.


Ace flipped 3rd party, his goal wasn't to lynch scum so his words mean nothing. VE actually considered you suspicious by the end of his life. One of his last posts was


He also mentioned that he was warming up for Yamato.


So no, he didn't have the same suspects as you do right now. Your appeal to authority of dead players has failed. They will not protect you for the incoming doom. You will hang, and your red blood will drip from the gallows.

On May 04 2013 02:29 yamato77 wrote:
I've been telling you guys that Ace and BC were suspicious the whole game. One flips third party, and you don't want to lynch the other?

Give me some validation here.

On May 04 2013 02:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Palmar actively said day 1 is his best day and one he believes is important and his top two reads that he pushed both flipped town. He continued to push VE and calling him scum when VE was catching us mafia. He has followed thread sentiment and appears more often than naught to defend himself while never providing shit to the thread.

You think I am mafia because I never cared who got lynched? Day 1 I was gone for awhile just like I was in day 2 with reasons I stated as to why. I have a job, and a girlfriend who take up a ton of my time. When I was around I said my piece of who I thought should be lynched and who I thought was scum. I don't have the time to sit in a thread all day pushing who I want to the gallows. Instead I gave reasons of my reads. We then had things like red checks, etc...

So when you say I dont seem to care about who gets lynched? Day 1 I had shit to do, day 2 I was actively around, day 3 and 4 were clearing dt checks and no one cared, and I clearly stated on day 5 who I wanted lynched and my vote is sitting on him.

If you are going to attempt a case, please make it legit. If you ignore shit thats going on in thread and call me mafia for doing what I can point fingers at universally almost everyone for doing the same thing then you have a bad case. Tell me how Palmar actively trolling/not giving two shits while when he was "caring" he was actively pushing townies to die and even stated he thought the guy he pushed day 1 was town, is in any way town play. Tell me how claiming a dt day 3 with 1 check with an unconfirmed sanity is town play. Seriously. Explain to me how he is in any way town. You are so hellbent on him being town but have never offered a substantial and real answer as to why.

On May 04 2013 03:05 Stutters695 wrote:
I did not. I mentioned before that I'd like to wait for him to actually respond.

I was saying those 4 quotes were in a period of relative inactivity so there wasn't much for him to push in that period. His lack of actually saying it himself concerns me.

Also this came to me when I was listing my games but iirc BC was scum in Whose Line and his play was similar. I can't verify until tomorrow but if someone wants to look into it that'd be great or I'll do it tomorrow.

TheRavensName
Most recent points against Palmar to me show well thought out reasoning as to why his mason role should be a pro-town entity and Palmar's actions are scummy.


I feel scum would have verified their accusation, to prevent this kind of backtracking from being necessary.

A decent amount of his thoughts on Sharrant and WoS were in line with rayn, but not in a buddying or forced way to me. Looks natural.

This really looks like a 2nd Cedric questioning the FLAVOR of the flip post. Massive towncred to TRN. gratz.

I'm confident at least 1 scum lies within BC, BM and Palmar. I'd probably lynch in that order right now.
If thats not game over, I'd consider looking into Sharrant, TRN and Yamato next.

On May 04 2013 02:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Ive called Ace third party since n1. Want a cookie? You called VE scum and were wrong, you wanted oats dead for being scum and were wrong. You can say I am scummy but I am town so you are wrong there. So why would anyone listen to you?