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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
Of hopeless and giggles I would aim for hopeless first as he appeared a bit when he was close to death only to vanish again when sentiment was changing, or at least thats How I saw it. | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On May 04 2013 07:41 Palmar wrote: clearly I am paranoid, and with 2 millers and a framer, and hell, one of our cop was insane, so that means there's been plenty of misdirection, a godfather isn't guaranteed at all. also what OO said. he gets massive leeway. it was obvious he would be insane, given he was trelawney read my filter, i said so | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On May 04 2013 07:41 Palmar wrote: clearly I am paranoid, and with 2 millers and a framer, and hell, one of our cop was insane, so that means there's been plenty of misdirection, a godfather isn't guaranteed at all. also what OO said. he gets massive leeway. you're trelawney's paranoid prophecy? crunchy | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
at least d1 we got a lot of information out of yamato... and ace shifting the wagon is irrelevant now that we know he was 3p | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On May 04 2013 08:32 Bill Murray wrote: of those 3 we should lynch hopeless first due to his lack of presence at least d1 we got a lot of information out of yamato... and ace shifting the wagon is irrelevant now that we know he was 3p Yamato I have tunnel bias on given I can't shake that feeling of offness. So I will be able to find any excuse to lynch him. Giggles has done absolutely nothing this game from what I can remember. I am going to filter him now, but I think you are right. Hopeless is a good start, then depending on how the day goes or information that crops up via analysis we will likely have the last mafia | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
You two are going to keep pelting reads over about other people. We lynch people you agree on until we win or you fuck up enough times that we have one mislynch left. If that happens, we lynch both of you. It's kinda the same thing as the original plan except we lynch you two at the end now. | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
On May 04 2013 08:43 ObviousOne wrote: Inb4 anyone else says it! last ditch effort scum Yamato bussing scum Hopeless! The problem was his case on Hopeless started way before the mafia got in this horrible situation. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
That he randomly started pushing BC after Ace flipped 3P is concerning though. I haven't seen his thought process behind it. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On May 04 2013 08:43 ObviousOne wrote: Inb4 anyone else says it! last ditch effort scum Yamato bussing scum Hopeless! re-reading gigyas or whatever his names filter is. I actually think he could be town. None of his posts read of mafia agenda only his activity does. As such I really agree with this sentiment. Like strongly agree with it. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On May 04 2013 08:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I have a strong townread on Yamato. He also brought up the idea of BC being 3rd party survivor when reading through the case. Seems like he actually thought it through and evaluated it. That he randomly started pushing BC after Ace flipped 3P is concerning though. I haven't seen his thought process behind it. Ace was clearly 3p from an early stage in my books (called him on it like n1 or d2) I figured he was survivor though. Also you have seen the thought process of Palmar and I, we more or less narrowed it to 3 people. One of which (hopeless) I think you can easily understand. Read both Yamato and Giggles filter. One reads far more prominently townie to me. However I will admit I have had a huge scum read of yamato most of the game to the point I don't think I can seperate myself from it. However thread sentiment / agreement from most major players everyone can agree on were town before they flipped had ace down as likely 3p. You do raise the point of him pushing me as 3p survivor. Why would Town care which 3p is which? Town has to eliminate the player if they think said player is not town / playing against town win con. As such figuring out which potential 3p is what doesn't matter if they are likely shooting town. Only reason I can see someone caring which 3p someone is is if they are mafia hoping to get someone with night protection lynched to make sure a shot doesn't get blocked. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
On May 04 2013 08:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ace was clearly 3p from an early stage in my books (called him on it like n1 or d2) I figured he was survivor though. Also you have seen the thought process of Palmar and I, we more or less narrowed it to 3 people. One of which (hopeless) I think you can easily understand. Yes, but don't forget Stutters (which you put as null) and TRN (whilst masoning Palmar is ballsy there's something off about a bunch of his posts to me). Getmoript has also played an awful game. How certain are we that the modconfirmed thing is truly modconfirmed? Read both Yamato and Giggles filter. One reads far more prominently townie to me. However I will admit I have had a huge scum read of yamato most of the game to the point I don't think I can seperate myself from it. However thread sentiment / agreement from most major players everyone can agree on were town before they flipped had ace down as likely 3p. I'll reread both filters tomorrow. It's true that everyone had Ace down as 3P, but that wasn't the thing that concerned me. The thing that did concern me was how Yamato changed reads from putting you as 3P to scum when it was incredibly likely that Ace would flip 3P and he knew that, so why did it change? You do raise the point of him pushing me as 3p survivor. Why would Town care which 3p is which? Town has to eliminate the player if they think said player is not town / playing against town win con. As such figuring out which potential 3p is what doesn't matter if they are likely shooting town. Only reason I can see someone caring which 3p someone is is if they are mafia hoping to get someone with night protection lynched to make sure a shot doesn't get blocked. It matters because Survivor can win with town so a survivor doesn't need to be eliminated. A SP/SK does need to be eliminated as it can't win with town. There's no reason to lynch survivor, there is a good reason to lynch SP/SK. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On May 04 2013 09:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yes, but don't forget Stutters (which you put as null) and TRN (whilst masoning Palmar is ballsy there's something off about a bunch of his posts to me). Getmoript has also played an awful game. How certain are we that the modconfirmed thing is truly modconfirmed? I'll reread both filters tomorrow. It's true that everyone had Ace down as 3P, but that wasn't the thing that concerned me. The thing that did concern me was how Yamato changed reads from putting you as 3P to scum when it was incredibly likely that Ace would flip 3P and he knew that, so why did it change? It matters because Survivor can win with town so a survivor doesn't need to be eliminated. A SP/SK does need to be eliminated as it can't win with town. There's no reason to lynch survivor, there is a good reason to lynch SP/SK. I honestly cant see gemoript as scum. Marv would have no reason to have a seperate qt with geript if they were scum. They could easily interact via a scum qt just fine. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
On May 04 2013 09:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I honestly cant see gemoript as scum. Marv would have no reason to have a seperate qt with geript if they were scum. They could easily interact via a scum qt just fine. Fair enough. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
BC's read of me is no longer explainable as simple bias, it's literally the scummiest thing in the whole game. | ||
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