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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 04 2013 16:39 GMT
#4621
Also Happy TL birthday Sharrant
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 04 2013 17:01 GMT
#4622
Not surprised OO died. Shame our JK didn't protect him. I didn't get RBed either, who did?
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 04 2013 17:03 GMT
#4623
I was roleblocked. posting via phone but will be back on my comp in a few to post some thoughts
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 04 2013 17:03 GMT
#4624
Actually, there's no need for that info afaik. Let's kill Hopeless and be done with it.
If he flips green, I suggest we leave Palmar/BC open for when we have one mislynch left and kill them both then. Honestly, we should solve this game if they're both town before then.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 04 2013 17:04 GMT
#4625
That makes no sense, there was like 0% chance you'd get hit. wtf JK
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 04 2013 17:15 GMT
#4626
Yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead and

##Vote Hopeless1der
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 04 2013 17:16 GMT
#4627
On May 05 2013 02:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That makes no sense, there was like 0% chance you'd get hit. wtf JK

It sort of does, BC and Palmar are getting in to the game and are starting to analyse. That must be scary for the mafia.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 04 2013 17:17 GMT
#4628
Hopeless, is there anything you still want to say this cycle? If you are in fact town it'll be nice to have your updated reads. Anything new since your last read post?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 04 2013 17:17 GMT
#4629
On May 05 2013 02:16 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 02:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That makes no sense, there was like 0% chance you'd get hit. wtf JK

It sort of does, BC and Palmar are getting in to the game and are starting to analyse. That must be scary for the mafia.

I don't think they can win unless BC/Palmar get lynched though, presuming they're both town.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 04 2013 17:20 GMT
#4630
On May 05 2013 02:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That makes no sense, there was like 0% chance you'd get hit. wtf JK


keep in mind we are assuming the jk is town and not a second mafia one.

#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 04 2013 17:22 GMT
#4631
On May 05 2013 02:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 02:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That makes no sense, there was like 0% chance you'd get hit. wtf JK


keep in mind we are assuming the jk is town and not a second mafia one.


Two scum JK's don't make sense though, because then where did the second hit go on the day Vivax died?
I just won't believe scum doublestacks Vivax on N1, especially when they have two roleblockers to block people that they suspect are blue.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
May 04 2013 17:23 GMT
#4632
On May 05 2013 02:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hopeless, is there anything you still want to say this cycle? If you are in fact town it'll be nice to have your updated reads. Anything new since your last read post?

I find giggles' lack of followup on his promised reads disconcerting. Palmar/BC dont seem to have covered him either...
On May 04 2013 08:03 GiygaS wrote:
Jesus, BC, Palmar and BM when they work together is scary good. I still think all of you are town for your pushes on Clarity on Day/Night 1. I agree with most of your guys' thoughts, and think that Hopeless should be tomorrow's lynch as well.

This is really sheepy and unsubstantial.


Aside from that my reads havent changed, and giggles is only a blip on my radar now. If I haven't convinced anyone I'm town, I'm not going to start now. I continue to stand by my lynch order as previously stated.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 04 2013 17:26 GMT
#4633
Yamato pushing suspicion onto me for not pushing ace is retarded. I called him 3p so early because i thought he was. given that he was also helping us lynch mafia the likelyhood of him being survivor over the other two was extremely high early on. Factor in again that we have red checks to lynch through. Why do you keep pushing the idea of i must be scum based purely on not pushing my reads? I thought shiao and clarity were mafia and they got lynched (they may not have been my top read but they were more likely to be lynched and thus made more sense to have those). I was clearly against oats lynch day 1 and tried to get you lynched.

Then comes down to this. If the third party is helping town he is likely survivor and you dont force his lynch and you instead go for mafia. This is straight forward logic.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 04 2013 17:28 GMT
#4634
On May 05 2013 02:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 02:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 05 2013 02:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That makes no sense, there was like 0% chance you'd get hit. wtf JK


keep in mind we are assuming the jk is town and not a second mafia one.


Two scum JK's don't make sense though, because then where did the second hit go on the day Vivax died?
I just won't believe scum doublestacks Vivax on N1, especially when they have two roleblockers to block people that they suspect are blue.


honestly second hit could have been fired at ace and he never claimed it. I wouldnt as third party. It would also explain his constant roleblocking. as town following thread sentiment i would have rb'd people i thought were going to get shot, not someone who i thought was third party every night.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 04 2013 17:29 GMT
#4635
Yeah, those reads got destroyed when my computer crashed, I really do not feel like re-making it, but if people want me to I can.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 04 2013 17:30 GMT
#4636
On May 05 2013 02:29 GiygaS wrote:
Yeah, those reads got destroyed when my computer crashed, I really do not feel like re-making it, but if people want me to I can.


i am currently typing with two fingers cut so badly i cant use them. if i can keep playing so can you
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 04 2013 17:35 GMT
#4637
On May 05 2013 02:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 02:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 05 2013 02:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 05 2013 02:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That makes no sense, there was like 0% chance you'd get hit. wtf JK


keep in mind we are assuming the jk is town and not a second mafia one.


Two scum JK's don't make sense though, because then where did the second hit go on the day Vivax died?
I just won't believe scum doublestacks Vivax on N1, especially when they have two roleblockers to block people that they suspect are blue.


honestly second hit could have been fired at ace and he never claimed it. I wouldnt as third party. It would also explain his constant roleblocking. as town following thread sentiment i would have rb'd people i thought were going to get shot, not someone who i thought was third party every night.

In that case, all town has is 2 cops, a paranoid cop and two masoners against a scumteam with at least 2 JK's, a vigilante and a framer. Roleswise that seems pretty damn scum favoured. Just based on balance alone I'd say it's more likely both town and scum have one each.

My original thought was that if scum shot Ace, they'd simply claim to have a guilty check on Ace (3rd party shows up as scum) and get the free towncred as well as make sure scum doesn't get lynched that day. Could've worked on both days that scum got lynched. However, I forgot that they could think that they shot a veteran too, so it would be a risk.

Thirdly, I don't think they would perma jail Ace if they found out he was third party. Scum was in a bad position. Letting Ace free for one night would make town focus on him again and divert attention away from scumhunting.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 04 2013 17:35 GMT
#4638
On May 05 2013 02:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 02:29 GiygaS wrote:
Yeah, those reads got destroyed when my computer crashed, I really do not feel like re-making it, but if people want me to I can.


i am currently typing with two fingers cut so badly i cant use them. if i can keep playing so can you

Mmk, it may take a while though as I am out on my phone right now too. I'll make it when I get home.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 04 2013 17:37 GMT
#4639
On May 05 2013 02:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 02:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 05 2013 02:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 05 2013 02:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 05 2013 02:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That makes no sense, there was like 0% chance you'd get hit. wtf JK


keep in mind we are assuming the jk is town and not a second mafia one.


Two scum JK's don't make sense though, because then where did the second hit go on the day Vivax died?
I just won't believe scum doublestacks Vivax on N1, especially when they have two roleblockers to block people that they suspect are blue.


honestly second hit could have been fired at ace and he never claimed it. I wouldnt as third party. It would also explain his constant roleblocking. as town following thread sentiment i would have rb'd people i thought were going to get shot, not someone who i thought was third party every night.

In that case, all town has is 2 cops, a paranoid cop and two masoners against a scumteam with at least 2 JK's, a vigilante and a framer. Roleswise that seems pretty damn scum favoured. Just based on balance alone I'd say it's more likely both town and scum have one each.

My original thought was that if scum shot Ace, they'd simply claim to have a guilty check on Ace (3rd party shows up as scum) and get the free towncred as well as make sure scum doesn't get lynched that day. Could've worked on both days that scum got lynched. However, I forgot that they could think that they shot a veteran too, so it would be a risk.

Thirdly, I don't think they would perma jail Ace if they found out he was third party. Scum was in a bad position. Letting Ace free for one night would make town focus on him again and divert attention away from scumhunting.


would it make him focus on town though? he was raping the scum team. I agree that the jk could be town but i dont see why a townie would rb last night of all people. when you have confirmed town you could protect.

i do find it likely that mafia could have shot him n1 though. i think doublestack on vivax just so unlikely.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 04 2013 17:38 GMT
#4640
and we dont know if there are other blues in the game at this point either
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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