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Artanis[Xp]
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BloodyC0bbler
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Artanis[Xp]
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On May 05 2013 02:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: would it make him focus on town though? he was raping the scum team. I agree that the jk could be town but i dont see why a townie would rb last night of all people. when you have confirmed town you could protect. i do find it likely that mafia could have shot him n1 though. i think doublestack on vivax just so unlikely. Because town was far ahead. It'd be likely that Ace would target obvious townies because as 3rd party you don't want one party to get massively ahead. It'd serve his wincon better to aim for town. As town jk you know 100% certain that blocking Ace stops a kill that's probably aimed at town. I don't know why you wouldn't instantly go for that. | ||
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On May 05 2013 02:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Because town was far ahead. It'd be likely that Ace would target obvious townies because as 3rd party you don't want one party to get massively ahead. It'd serve his wincon better to aim for town. As town jk you know 100% certain that blocking Ace stops a kill that's probably aimed at town. I don't know why you wouldn't instantly go for that. primarily because off one nights worth of deaths its still really shaky to believe it was sk/sp shot instead of mafia vig or town vig at that point. It comes down to lack of info. id want ace unblocked at least once to confirm the read as poisoner. and ace would obviously shoot at town at night while aiming for mafia during day to avoid the noose. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On May 05 2013 02:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also it is scummy as hell for yamato to try to get the jk to publically claim and risking getting shot. I have something I want to point out about that but I want to see if Yamato points it out first. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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On May 05 2013 02:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I have something I want to point out about that but I want to see if Yamato points it out first. fair enough | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On May 05 2013 02:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: primarily because off one nights worth of deaths its still really shaky to believe it was sk/sp shot instead of mafia vig or town vig at that point. It comes down to lack of info. id want ace unblocked at least once to confirm the read as poisoner. and ace would obviously shoot at town at night while aiming for mafia during day to avoid the noose. It's a decent point, but this goes for both town and scum JK's. Both of them want to find out if Ace is 3rd party, so that on its own isn't alignment indicative. Ace would do just enough scumhunting to not get lynched. Once it got down to 14-3 or something like that, he really wouldn't want to find any scum, just appear as if he's finding scum. | ||
yamato77
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You're delusional if you think that's scummy. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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On May 05 2013 02:48 yamato77 wrote: It literally gives us 2 confirmed town, the JK, and the guy he didn't protect night 1. You're delusional if you think that's scummy. and we lose the jk who is as far as we know the only person able to deflect mafia kp. so we trade someone who can extend the game for a few days if it goes badly for one guy who will get shot the following night. | ||
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yamato77
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I find it funny that you want to reject logic that might confirm you as town with the JK business. | ||
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yamato77
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On May 05 2013 02:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote: and we lose the jk who is as far as we know the only person able to deflect mafia kp. so we trade someone who can extend the game for a few days if it goes badly for one guy who will get shot the following night. I'll take that trade, because you/Palmar are the remaining question marks. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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On May 05 2013 02:53 yamato77 wrote: And you are scummy, because you never did push any lynch. I find it funny that you want to reject logic that might confirm you as town with the JK business. how is me not wanting the jk to get shot bad logic? You think i am scum. say jk comes out and i get confirmed as town? i get shot right after he does. if it looks like the person he knows is town by your logic ever looks like they are going to get lynched then claiming isn't a bad idea but doing it during a night phase is dumb as fuck. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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yamato77
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Why the fuck are you arguing against confirming 2 town this late in the game? | ||
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yamato77
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On May 05 2013 02:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote: how is me not wanting the jk to get shot bad logic? You think i am scum. say jk comes out and i get confirmed as town? i get shot right after he does. if it looks like the person he knows is town by your logic ever looks like they are going to get lynched then claiming isn't a bad idea but doing it during a night phase is dumb as fuck. The longer he waits, the more likely it is that mafia shoot him. If he gets shot before he claims, we lose this information. There's little reason to wait, because the game is basically SOLVED. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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On May 05 2013 02:56 yamato77 wrote: Who knows, JK might be someone else we're looking at. Why the fuck are you arguing against confirming 2 town this late in the game? Again if he is almost lynched then he can claim. Also against confirming? This game is about finding mafia no? Yes clearing town is helpful as fuck, but If Palmar and I are on the right track with our thinking then what does it matter? Currently we arent lynching either myself or palmar so why dont you do what he and i are doing and assume for the moment both he and i are town. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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He pointed out earlier on that he thought he knew who the JK was. On May 03 2013 03:02 yamato77 wrote: Oh, and I'm certain that there is a town JK, and I'm fairly sure I know who he is. I don't see any reason for scum to claim to know who the JK is, especially since he didn't try to gain any towncred from saying it himself. I was waiting to see if he brought such a point up, but he hasn't. | ||
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yamato77
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On May 05 2013 02:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Again if he is almost lynched then he can claim. Also against confirming? This game is about finding mafia no? Yes clearing town is helpful as fuck, but If Palmar and I are on the right track with our thinking then what does it matter? Currently we arent lynching either myself or palmar so why dont you do what he and i are doing and assume for the moment both he and i are town. Because I lynch mafia, and you are very likely to be mafia. Either way, I'd rather lynch hopeless today, but the BC/Palmar situation could be resolved in reality, and not some pretend fantasy world so long as the JK claims and clears one of you. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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On May 05 2013 03:00 yamato77 wrote: Because I lynch mafia, and you are very likely to be mafia. Either way, I'd rather lynch hopeless today, but the BC/Palmar situation could be resolved in reality, and not some pretend fantasy world so long as the JK claims and clears one of you. and whats your solution if the town jk protected palmar and I get confirmed as town? Lynch him? because I am not as sure of him anymore. There doesn't have to be a mafia in the two of us, we just assumed there did. | ||
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