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On May 02 2013 23:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 23:35 yamato77 wrote:On May 02 2013 23:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yamato, what are your thoughts on the case? It's somewhat correct in that I don't feel BC has ever pushed any agenda strongly this game, but that makes me feel like he's more likely third party than scum. But 3rd party wouldn't make sense given we've only had one kill each night now and he hasn't gotten roleblocked (at least to our knowledge) so we'd have to have had two deaths by now unless he kept trying to poison Ace, which I consider unlikely. Town or scum, what do you think?
Or he's Rita Skeeter.
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artanis im gonna need a tldr on that case of yours
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On May 02 2013 23:39 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 23:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 02 2013 23:35 yamato77 wrote:On May 02 2013 23:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yamato, what are your thoughts on the case? It's somewhat correct in that I don't feel BC has ever pushed any agenda strongly this game, but that makes me feel like he's more likely third party than scum. But 3rd party wouldn't make sense given we've only had one kill each night now and he hasn't gotten roleblocked (at least to our knowledge) so we'd have to have had two deaths by now unless he kept trying to poison Ace, which I consider unlikely. Town or scum, what do you think? Or he's Rita Skeeter.
That's a good point, I hadn't thought about that yet.
BC, are you survivor or scum?
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On May 02 2013 23:39 kushm4sta wrote:
artanis im gonna need a tldr on that case of yours
It's at the bottom of the case dude
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On May 02 2013 23:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also why?
I think there's some actual suspicion of me somewhere in there from BC, which means he actually thought about my alignment, which eliminates the possibility of him being mafia and knowing alignments. I also don't feel like his play is suited for mafia, because mafia have a vested interest in pushing their agenda. The only person who's agenda is to simply not get lynched is Rita Skeeter, and for that, his play fits perfectly.
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that case is good i would lynch bc
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On May 02 2013 23:41 yamato77 wrote:I think there's some actual suspicion of me somewhere in there from BC, which means he actually thought about my alignment, which eliminates the possibility of him being mafia and knowing alignments. I also don't feel like his play is suited for mafia, because mafia have a vested interest in pushing their agenda. The only person who's agenda is to simply not get lynched is Rita Skeeter, and for that, his play fits perfectly.
It is a possibility. I would like for BC to claim survivor if he is such.
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If I'm right about Hopeless, I actually think Ace really is the other mafia. He seems pretty demotivated about this game now, isn't pushing anything strongly, and acquiesces to lynching Hopeless without any comment on my case, why he suddenly believes me, or how he's arrived at that conclusion.
For someone who so vehemently called me mafia the whole game, he sure does feel fine with simply hopping along with the town sentiment I've created with the wagon on Hopeless. Bear in mind, he would do this regardless of Hopeless' alignment, because if Hopeless is mafia, he cannot risk sticking his neck out to save him when I have town sentiment on my side.
He's obviously here, reading the thread, so that means he's not simply inactive. He's lurking, but not providing any input on why he feels Hopeless is a good lynch, and is obviously not invested enough in his read of Palmar to push it over my case on Hopeless.
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So basically, we can lynch Hopeless/BC/Ace in any order, and likely win the game.
The only other person I'm even half worried about is Palmar, and we have enough lynches, assuming that not all three of those people are town, to deal with him as well.
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On May 02 2013 23:47 yamato77 wrote:
If I'm right about Hopeless, I actually think Ace really is the other mafia. He seems pretty demotivated about this game now, isn't pushing anything strongly, and acquiesces to lynching Hopeless without any comment on my case, why he suddenly believes me, or how he's arrived at that conclusion.
For someone who so vehemently called me mafia the whole game, he sure does feel fine with simply hopping along with the town sentiment I've created with the wagon on Hopeless. Bear in mind, he would do this regardless of Hopeless' alignment, because if Hopeless is mafia, he cannot risk sticking his neck out to save him when I have town sentiment on my side.
He's obviously here, reading the thread, so that means he's not simply inactive. He's lurking, but not providing any input on why he feels Hopeless is a good lynch, and is obviously not invested enough in his read of Palmar to push it over my case on Hopeless.
It's also a very real possibility he is SP. He wasn't rb'd n1 so it's either scum spent their joat(assuming they have one) vigi n2 or he poisoned.
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No Jack has vigilante powers.
I guess there has to be a 3rd Party SP, given the two deaths night 2. In that case, you guys are probably right about it being Ace.
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Stutters, thoughts on BC case go.
Yamato: I think it's very likely that it was a 3rd party kill because I don't think Grush was a player that scum really feared.
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Jesus that BC case. Sorry Artanis, but Hopeless is looking a lot scummier to me atm. I''m almost ready to hammer right now, but I know Sharrant wanted us to wait. Should we give him some time and see what he comes up with? I don't want the hopeless lynch to get derailed if we wait TOO long, but at the same time I guess there isn't any rush.
I'll kep my vote off for now but I'm looking to hammer today at some point. Also 48h since a BM post? Isn't he one of those guys who gets banned frequently from mafia or something?
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On May 01 2013 11:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Question answers and clarification:
Minimum scum KP is 1.
Scum KP is delivered factionally and is not subject to RB.
Due the the possibility of there being 3p, neither scum nor town is not allowed to concede in this game.
SK and SP both are compulsive-- they must target someone every night.
SK and SP shots cannot be protected against by Doctor, Veteran, JK, or the target being another SK or SP.
There can be anywhere between 0 and like 20 of any role in the setup.
You are always informed of roleblocks regardless of your own role.
This seems to imply that SK/SP can be role blocked, and their shot stopped, it just can't be protected against. This all but confirms Ace as 3P.
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Can SP/SK be role blocked, and their KP stopped on this way?
Can't hurt to be sure.
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On May 03 2013 00:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Jesus that BC case. Sorry Artanis, but Hopeless is looking a lot scummier to me atm.
Why? What did you not like about it, and why do you think Hopeless' case is stronger?
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It would be very silly to lynch ace because he might be third party. If you think he's mafia push for his lynch. If you think he's third party and you're pushing for his lynch then stop. Read the op, think about it, read the op again, think about it in context of the game. Realize it's possible he's not third party and that he should be lynched after the last mafia dies and the game does not end, or if the jailer dies at some point. if someone can't point out why by the time I'm back from work, I'll explain..
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On May 03 2013 00:17 yamato77 wrote:
Can SP/SK be role blocked, and their KP stopped on this way?
Can't hurt to be sure.
On March 30 2013 16:13 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 14:02 TheRavensName wrote:
I have a question about Serial Poisioner sense I've never seen one before. If you block the kill, say with a medic or jailer, do you have to block it the day it would go out, or the next day when it triggers? During the night of poisoning a roleblock on the SP will stop the attack. Protection does not work here
During the night of the death (one night later) a protection on the target will not protect it.
To clarify: you cannot medic an SP shot, only roleblock.
You can roleblock a SK shot.
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On May 03 2013 00:17 yamato77 wrote:
Can SP/SK be role blocked, and their KP stopped on this way?
Can't hurt to be sure.
On March 30 2013 16:13 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 14:02 TheRavensName wrote:
I have a question about Serial Poisioner sense I've never seen one before. If you block the kill, say with a medic or jailer, do you have to block it the day it would go out, or the next day when it triggers? During the night of poisoning a roleblock on the SP will stop the attack. Protection does not work here
During the night of the death (one night later) a protection on the target will not protect it.
To clarify: you cannot medic an SP shot, only roleblock.
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Then unless there's a second scum vigilante, Ace is SP.
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