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geript
10024 Posts
On May 03 2013 00:53 yamato77 wrote: Then unless there's a second scum vigilante, Ace is SP. Again the best option is to have the roleblocker block elsewhere for one night. That will show us if we should kill him or not. There's no reason to kill him until proof to the otherwise. He's confirmed not scum. | ||
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On May 03 2013 00:53 yamato77 wrote: Then unless there's a second scum vigilante, Ace is SP. And that's a pretty big unless, it's also excluding terrible and embarrassed townie shooting grush trying to make a big play and not claiming due to embarrassment. While much less likely in the second scenario, both situations show that lynching one of the strongest analysts is not a good idea. If the game goes on after the mafia are dead, lynch ace and win. | ||
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On May 03 2013 00:58 geript wrote: Again the best option is to have the roleblocker block elsewhere for one night. That will show us if we should kill him or not. There's no reason to kill him until proof to the otherwise. He's confirmed not scum. No, this is bad reasoning. It potentially costs us a townie for something provable without any deaths. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On May 03 2013 00:53 yamato77 wrote: Then unless there's a second scum vigilante, Ace is SP. yeah but if we have a jk he can wait | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On May 03 2013 00:29 Sharrant wrote: It would be very silly to lynch ace because he might be third party. If you think he's mafia push for his lynch. If you think he's third party and you're pushing for his lynch then stop. Read the op, think about it, read the op again, think about it in context of the game. Realize it's possible he's not third party and that he should be lynched after the last mafia dies and the game does not end, or if the jailer dies at some point. if someone can't point out why by the time I'm back from work, I'll explain.. It's pretty obvious why. Was just pointing out to yamato that I think it's considerably more likely he's 3p over scum. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On May 03 2013 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Stutters, thoughts on BC case go. Yamato: I think it's very likely that it was a 3rd party kill because I don't think Grush was a player that scum really feared. I'll type up a more detailed version soon but I'm not nearly as sold on it as I am on hopeless or even Palmar. I'm having doubts about Palmar but until he delivers on his promised big post I'd rather him over bc. | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
On May 03 2013 00:58 geript wrote: Again the best option is to have the roleblocker block elsewhere for one night. That will show us if we should kill him or not. There's no reason to kill him until proof to the otherwise. He's confirmed not scum. qff | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
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getmoript
1016 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
gj yamato you're boss. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On May 03 2013 01:13 Stutters695 wrote: I'll type up a more detailed version soon but I'm not nearly as sold on it as I am on hopeless or even Palmar. I'm having doubts about Palmar but until he delivers on his promised big post I'd rather him over bc. that's cause you're BC's remaining scumbuddy. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On May 03 2013 01:29 Palmar wrote: so wait, we just confirmed Ace as 3p? gj yamato you're boss. dafuq. How did yamato make this possible? | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
@Artanis I'm going through his filter to check it out myself but obviously I've got some doubts. | ||
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
On May 03 2013 01:29 Palmar wrote: so wait, we just confirmed Ace as 3p? gj yamato you're boss. ... Palmar, it kinda sounds like you're admitting to being mafia here. I'm much more okay with your lynch now. Only people ace being confirmed third party to is mafia. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
Self-aware Miller part: I wasn't around when this happened but reading it originally I agreed that Miller claiming is dumb. Not necessarily lynchable depending on circumstances but your entire paragraph falls flat because you can't discern when a scum does it and by not lynching them you've opened an avenue to get out of cop checks. His long post where he mentions Yamato and CC and the four posts after: Consolidating wasn't the right word there but you're taking it out of context. I interpreted that as Yamato wasn't trying to actively get him lynched despite being the only constant read. Not sure if that's true as I haven't re-read that section in context with Yamato's posts. I'll have to check that when I have more time, but right now that's more null than anything else (if he is misrepresenting Yamato it is much more concerning). The four posts after were within twenty minutes of the original post. If he had nothing else to add and VE was the only other poster the hell do you expect him to do other than comment about other issues in town? The further into the case the more I agree with it however those points concerned me. I would like to hear his reasoning for the remainder of it but just reading it before without his filter and having those doubts I wasn't convinced without reading his filter myself. Still would prefer Hopeless but with the Palmar BC interactions I'd like to wait for BC to actually respond and Palmar's promised post. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On May 03 2013 02:02 Sharrant wrote: ... Palmar, it kinda sounds like you're admitting to being mafia here. I'm much more okay with your lynch now. Only people ace being confirmed third party to is mafia. No, he's actually confirmed 3P Town Vig would have claimed, unless he's really bad, but I doubt there is one anyway. We have had: 1 Unaware Miller 1 DT 1 Parity Cop All flip, plus: 1 DT Claim 1 Aware Miller Claim 1 Confirmed Mason Unless you think one of Palmar/WoS/TRN is lying/actually mafia, then it's almost certain that we don't have a town vigilante. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
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getmoript
1016 Posts
On May 03 2013 03:04 geript wrote: Ok, so why doesn't town vig claim so we can avoid lynching Ace. If no vig claim then lynch Ace. That works too I guess. fucking failure at running on hydra | ||
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