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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 02 2013 13:41 GMT
#4241
On May 02 2013 22:38 kushm4sta wrote:
TRN that shit can be explained by:
i wasn't reading so I had no idea wtf was going on

Stop
read case on BC
comment
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 02 2013 14:02 GMT
#4242
Thanks for confirming yourself as one of the final mafia artanis.

I stopped reading at the point of you claiming I never wanted Yamato lynched given how full of shit you are. Thanks for trying desperately to get me lynched though.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 02 2013 14:08 GMT
#4243
On May 02 2013 23:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Thanks for confirming yourself as one of the final mafia artanis.

I stopped reading at the point of you claiming I never wanted Yamato lynched given how full of shit you are. Thanks for trying desperately to get me lynched though.

Sick defense dude.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 02 2013 14:10 GMT
#4244
On May 02 2013 23:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Thanks for confirming yourself as one of the final mafia artanis.

I stopped reading at the point of you claiming I never wanted Yamato lynched given how full of shit you are. Thanks for trying desperately to get me lynched though.

Sick defense dude.
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only defend things worth defending yo. Not worth the time otherwise
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 02 2013 14:11 GMT
#4245
On May 02 2013 23:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 02 2013 23:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Thanks for confirming yourself as one of the final mafia artanis.

I stopped reading at the point of you claiming I never wanted Yamato lynched given how full of shit you are. Thanks for trying desperately to get me lynched though.

Sick defense dude.
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only defend things worth defending yo. Not worth the time otherwise

Good point. I'll stop replying to you until you actually read the case and try to refute it.
I doubt that'll happen anyway, seems you've already resigned.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 02 2013 14:13 GMT
#4246
Just finished reading that case, it relies entirely on the fact that BC is actually 100 % sure of Yamato being mafia, which it really seems like he isn't based on his posts. You're basically calling him scum for changing his mind about someone but not explicitly saying that he's changed his mind.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 02 2013 14:15 GMT
#4247
Woops, seems BC posted before me, and he says it was a bait, interesting. I want to see BC's cases if he thinks he's found the mafia now.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 02 2013 14:15 GMT
#4248
On May 02 2013 23:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 02 2013 23:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 02 2013 23:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Thanks for confirming yourself as one of the final mafia artanis.

I stopped reading at the point of you claiming I never wanted Yamato lynched given how full of shit you are. Thanks for trying desperately to get me lynched though.

Sick defense dude.
[image loading]


only defend things worth defending yo. Not worth the time otherwise

Good point. I'll stop replying to you until you actually read the case and try to refute it.
I doubt that'll happen anyway, seems you've already resigned.


Resigned? You apparently don't know me dude lol. How about you people who think I am mafia go back and read the games I have been mafia in. Bill Murray ran a game which is number 28 I believe that was imbalanced in favour of the town by extreme amounts and I led my team to victory quite successfully. I have bussed inactive teammates to ensure I was viewed as confirmed town, etc...

If I was mafia this game I would have bussed my entire team that was inactive, made sure that I was the reason they died, and proceeded to off town systematically while being confirmed the entire way.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 02 2013 14:16 GMT
#4249
On May 02 2013 23:13 GiygaS wrote:
Just finished reading that case, it relies entirely on the fact that BC is actually 100 % sure of Yamato being mafia, which it really seems like he isn't based on his posts. You're basically calling him scum for changing his mind about someone but not explicitly saying that he's changed his mind.

No, it's relying on the fact that he calls Yamato 100% scum then never pushes him strongly or interacts with him to confirm his read at all. He's playing a passive game, calling people scum with a soft voice. He never told people to look at his case on Yamato. He never cared about getting his main scumread lynched. He never tried to get anyone lynched. There is no conviction in anything he does. That is not town BC.

The tl;dr points indicate exactly that.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 02 2013 14:17 GMT
#4250
On May 01 2013 09:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
BC: Palmar or Yamato - who gets the lynch tomorrow and why?



I believe I have summed up before in earlier posts about my suspicions of him no?

If you need a new summary

He has done basically nothing to help the town
He appears to only be doing what he does for shits and giggles
He claimed DT with one red check purely to get me lynched when he knows dts can have sanity issues
He has promised analysis and never delivered
I believe because of these things he is scum


On April 26 2013 06:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 26 2013 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
So is there a reason Yamato is a better lynch than Ace or Palmar to you?


Because I feel Yamato is 100% scum whereas the other two could be scum or third party. Of those two I would lynch Palmar first though

What has changed?


Yamato is trying in some varying degree so I feel I could be wrong now. Instead of 100% im more sitting on like 80% whereas Palmar's behaviour since just before and everything after his cop claim has just been insanely scumlike. I believe there is a strong possibility of both being scum, however in this case I feel Palmar's play has been far more scummy.


As a note artanis I believed I put this out what? yesterday in terms of game days of who I wanted to lynch if yamato or palmar and I stated My read of Yamato wasn't as severe anymore.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 02 2013 14:19 GMT
#4251
On May 02 2013 23:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 09:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
BC: Palmar or Yamato - who gets the lynch tomorrow and why?



I believe I have summed up before in earlier posts about my suspicions of him no?

If you need a new summary

He has done basically nothing to help the town
He appears to only be doing what he does for shits and giggles
He claimed DT with one red check purely to get me lynched when he knows dts can have sanity issues
He has promised analysis and never delivered
I believe because of these things he is scum


On April 26 2013 06:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 26 2013 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
So is there a reason Yamato is a better lynch than Ace or Palmar to you?


Because I feel Yamato is 100% scum whereas the other two could be scum or third party. Of those two I would lynch Palmar first though

What has changed?


Yamato is trying in some varying degree so I feel I could be wrong now. Instead of 100% im more sitting on like 80% whereas Palmar's behaviour since just before and everything after his cop claim has just been insanely scumlike. I believe there is a strong possibility of both being scum, however in this case I feel Palmar's play has been far more scummy.


As a note artanis I believed I put this out what? yesterday in terms of game days of who I wanted to lynch if yamato or palmar and I stated My read of Yamato wasn't as severe anymore.

Seeing you respond to things I've already addressed in my case is painful. Pls read.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 02 2013 14:22 GMT
#4252
All I got to say is that this was not enough to shift my view on BC being town. I'm far more sure on Hopeless than BC. You just can't seem to shake that maybe he changed his mind on Yamato, while focusing on what's actually going on in the thread. BC, I'd like to see your cases now that you think you have it figured out.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 02 2013 14:26 GMT
#4253
On May 02 2013 23:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
BC: Palmar or Yamato - who gets the lynch tomorrow and why?



I believe I have summed up before in earlier posts about my suspicions of him no?

If you need a new summary

He has done basically nothing to help the town
He appears to only be doing what he does for shits and giggles
He claimed DT with one red check purely to get me lynched when he knows dts can have sanity issues
He has promised analysis and never delivered
I believe because of these things he is scum


On April 26 2013 06:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 26 2013 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
So is there a reason Yamato is a better lynch than Ace or Palmar to you?


Because I feel Yamato is 100% scum whereas the other two could be scum or third party. Of those two I would lynch Palmar first though

What has changed?


Yamato is trying in some varying degree so I feel I could be wrong now. Instead of 100% im more sitting on like 80% whereas Palmar's behaviour since just before and everything after his cop claim has just been insanely scumlike. I believe there is a strong possibility of both being scum, however in this case I feel Palmar's play has been far more scummy.


As a note artanis I believed I put this out what? yesterday in terms of game days of who I wanted to lynch if yamato or palmar and I stated My read of Yamato wasn't as severe anymore.

Seeing you respond to things I've already addressed in my case is painful. Pls read.


How about you make a real case? Your premise for it is very clear is you disagree with my read. Note how I have been harassing yamato over the course of the game? Notice how VE did? Notice how Ace did? If you agreed with my read of yamato as scum you'd not make a case centered purely around that.

Your case that I have read, reads as some massive defense of a player while using my suspicion of but lack of "making sure he dies" as the reason I am scum. How about he didn't get pushed because we had better lynch options appear? How about we had dt red checks to sort out?

This is why you aren't going to get more than this as a response to it. Your case is something that could have been put together in 10-15 minutes of cherry picking posts.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 02 2013 14:26 GMT
#4254
On May 02 2013 23:22 GiygaS wrote:
All I got to say is that this was not enough to shift my view on BC being town. I'm far more sure on Hopeless than BC. You just can't seem to shake that maybe he changed his mind on Yamato, while focusing on what's actually going on in the thread. BC, I'd like to see your cases now that you think you have it figured out.

If he changed his mind on Yamato, why did he name him as a suspect throughout the entire game and never pushed him strongly? Yes, he said he was scum. Yes, he made a small, shitty case. He never forced people to listen to him. He was never a town presence. BC can be a town presence, but he isn't. And yes, he changed his mind on Yamato. Rather than thinking him 100% scum, he thinks him to be 80% scum. He named 4 suspects right before that that didn't include Yamato which he considered his top suspects. Tell me how that adds up.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 02 2013 14:28 GMT
#4255
On May 02 2013 23:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 02 2013 23:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 01 2013 09:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
BC: Palmar or Yamato - who gets the lynch tomorrow and why?



I believe I have summed up before in earlier posts about my suspicions of him no?

If you need a new summary

He has done basically nothing to help the town
He appears to only be doing what he does for shits and giggles
He claimed DT with one red check purely to get me lynched when he knows dts can have sanity issues
He has promised analysis and never delivered
I believe because of these things he is scum


On April 26 2013 06:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 26 2013 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
So is there a reason Yamato is a better lynch than Ace or Palmar to you?


Because I feel Yamato is 100% scum whereas the other two could be scum or third party. Of those two I would lynch Palmar first though

What has changed?


Yamato is trying in some varying degree so I feel I could be wrong now. Instead of 100% im more sitting on like 80% whereas Palmar's behaviour since just before and everything after his cop claim has just been insanely scumlike. I believe there is a strong possibility of both being scum, however in this case I feel Palmar's play has been far more scummy.


As a note artanis I believed I put this out what? yesterday in terms of game days of who I wanted to lynch if yamato or palmar and I stated My read of Yamato wasn't as severe anymore.

Seeing you respond to things I've already addressed in my case is painful. Pls read.


How about you make a real case? Your premise for it is very clear is you disagree with my read. Note how I have been harassing yamato over the course of the game? Notice how VE did? Notice how Ace did? If you agreed with my read of yamato as scum you'd not make a case centered purely around that.

Your case that I have read, reads as some massive defense of a player while using my suspicion of but lack of "making sure he dies" as the reason I am scum. How about he didn't get pushed because we had better lynch options appear? How about we had dt red checks to sort out?

This is why you aren't going to get more than this as a response to it. Your case is something that could have been put together in 10-15 minutes of cherry picking posts.

It IS a real case, and you're only responding to the part regarding Yamato. I have read your entire filter and you didn't push Yamato. You didn't care if he got lynched or not or you would've put a bunch more effort into actually getting lynched. You had a scumread on Yamato all throughout Day 2 and never got him anywhere close on the agenda. I don't buy that.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 02 2013 14:33 GMT
#4256
BC, if we don't lynch you and fulfill my wildest dreams of offing the people who called me mafia, who should we lynch and why?

Still saying Palmar?
Writer@WriterYamato
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 02 2013 14:34 GMT
#4257
Yamato, what are your thoughts on the case?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 02 2013 14:35 GMT
#4258
On May 02 2013 23:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yamato, what are your thoughts on the case?

It's somewhat correct in that I don't feel BC has ever pushed any agenda strongly this game, but that makes me feel like he's more likely third party than scum.
Writer@WriterYamato
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 02 2013 14:38 GMT
#4259
On May 02 2013 23:35 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yamato, what are your thoughts on the case?

It's somewhat correct in that I don't feel BC has ever pushed any agenda strongly this game, but that makes me feel like he's more likely third party than scum.

But 3rd party wouldn't make sense given we've only had one kill each night now and he hasn't gotten roleblocked (at least to our knowledge) so we'd have to have had two deaths by now unless he kept trying to poison Ace, which I consider unlikely.
Town or scum, what do you think?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 02 2013 14:38 GMT
#4260
Also why?
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