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On May 09 2013 07:26 Palmar wrote: Why do you know BM isn't scum? I agree, I just want to know your thought process. A few things that I can point out real quick. I know I was unsure of him for most of the game but in later days: On May 06 2013 18:21 Bill Murray wrote: Why do you see me as town? I realized what you meant, but I know you knew you didn't have to explain that to me. We are pretty much on the same page, from what I have read from you... I didn't really think Drazak was scum, even when I made a weak little case on him - I was just wanting to pressure your slot. That's where you replaced into, right? As far as I can tell this is rarely something scum wants to question even if it makes them look towny. I remember his analysis of the Shiao wagon at the time of the VE derail looked good, and then this. On May 08 2013 15:03 Bill Murray wrote: ok im modconfirmed town now Under normal circumstances I would think this to be alignment null but the act of pointing this out himself, knowing that if he was scum or wrong other people would shut him down (ie you) shows that he has complete confidence in this. I am unsure exactly why it modconfirms him town myself, same with the Geript thing (I have some idea about the gript thing but I think it's weak evidence) but nonetheless it is his actions. What about you, Palmar? | ||
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On May 09 2013 07:30 getmoript wrote: I think that this list is shit. Inactivity at this point is less likely to come from scum we're in the phase where inactivity kills. If they felt defeated already they could've just conceded after Ace was killed. Scum obviously feel confident that despite being shit on early, they have a good shot at winning, that means that scum are likely more active than inactive. If anything, Palmar's just throwing shit out to push another mislynch. He's bitching about people calling him scum is based on shit; that's the pot calling the kettle black. His whole case on yamato was shit. Here's his case on Oats: "He called me scum so Oats is totes scum." Here's Palmar's case on yamato: "Yamato called me scum so he's totes scum." Fuck you Palmar, we're not that dumb. You've made a bullshit claim and made bullshit pushes for bullshit reasons. You're a hypocrit and an idiot. VE's right, you're wrong more than you are right and no one should ever listen to you. The fact that you are 'alive' at this point is ridiculous. Besides, you had to 'check' to see if you taking a hit after being jailed would be told; you were only checking to see if you could safely claim the hit. It also explains why there was only 1 roleblock on N2 because you recognized Ace was scum and didn't want to die. Ace must've taken the hit on N1. Proofs and shit. lol jesus Geript, tell us how you really feel. This is the kind of thing I was trying to refrain from posting, though the points in there have merit. As far as a townread on Giggles, I'll get back to you on that, I remember those being my last thoughts towards him but I haven't looked in a while. | ||
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I think I just died. I think I need to make sure every game I'm in from now on has pics/gifs allowed. | ||
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On May 09 2013 09:45 kushm4sta wrote: so town couldn't have rb him? Oh, kush, you cutie. | ||
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Would be nice to hear something from BC today. I'm going to do a read of the people I'm unsure of here and probably toss up a scummy list post at some point during the day. I want to say it's either Hopeless or Palmar today but I want to be sure. | ||
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What I DON'T like is his avoidance of the main issue of the day, being Palmar. On May 07 2013 09:23 GiygaS wrote: THIS. Palmar's entire case on Yamato seems to be that he made some reaching town reads on that list, and that he's flippy floppy on kush. Meanwhile, Yamato is completely set on the fact that one of BC and Palmar just HAS TO BE SCUM, IT JUST HAS TO. I'm going with Hopeless, and I'm not going to switch my vote to either Yamato or Palmar until there is an actually convincing case against them, or if one (or both) make a scumslip. ##Vote Hopeless1der This looks a LOT like distancing, Gigs. What gives? Especially since there was a SHIT TON of info on yamato and Palmar; you just seem to wilfully ignore it. | ||
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On May 10 2013 02:03 Hopeless1der wrote: My problem with the association read is that he says 1 of me and yamato essentially must be scum, but I 100% know hes wrong (since yamato flipped). If you think I'm town, or want to flip me first to confirm then by all means. But once my alignment is secured, giygas' actions look real scummy to me. Why does this make him scummy? It may make him wrong, but what specifically is scummy about that action? | ||
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Yeah, he voted to lynch Syl but Syl is lynchbait in every game supposedly, he just seems to be following thread sentiment alongside throwing legit reads of his own in here and there. He has a very early scumread on Palmar that to my knowledge he should still have, so yeah I'd really like to hear his thoughts. Oh wait just stumbled upon this: On May 02 2013 07:24 GiygaS wrote: Just catching up, and still on only page 120 of the re-read due to sleep + school. However, we should NOT lynch Palmar. He has a huge town read for me as his first finger pointing for mafia was Clarity on day 1, along with BM. Both of them can not be scum in my eyes for that reason, unless one of them straight up slips. When the hell did this change? Didn't he still have a scumread on Palmar at the time he's referring to?? On May 02 2013 11:36 GiygaS wrote: Ok, I'm giving in and just gonna read filters. Rereading the entire thread is really inefficient for reads. His flip on Palmar happens seemingly because he was re-reading the entire thread and he gives up here. I dunno...seems really unlikely he'd admit to this as scum. I think he's genuinely just posting shit off the top of his head as he goes and following thread sentiment where he can. He's tunneled Hopeless for days, even when yamato was up for lynch. Not really scummy at all. The only thing I can think of here is that he is being coached in the scum QT and it would have to be someone who has basically shared his reads throughout the game; BC seems a likely partner if GiygaS were scum, but again I find that highly unlikely. | ||
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On May 10 2013 02:35 kushm4sta wrote: no im saying right as you are about to be lynched, you start acting super town and everyone is like damn he looks town now. you are good at that. I don't that ever happened Kush. No one has called him all that towny as far as I know. And Hopeless I also did not want to vote for Yamato for similar reasons though your activity made me hesitant to vote for you as well. If he has townreads on BC/Palmar/BM like he's said, who else is he going to vote for? I chose Palmar, he chose you. | ||
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TRN do you still think Gigs is scummy based on what Artanis and I have said? BM? Process of elimination is certainly winding down here, and I still want to hear other people's thoughts on my analysis of Palmar. | ||
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On May 10 2013 03:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I admire your dedication WoS. I'm personally having a case of cba and just wish to make a list of 4 players to carpet bomb into, since we'll have 4 lynches to lynch 2 scum players. Current list of players I would carpet bomb Palmar Hopeless1der Getmoript TRN I kinda wanna put Kush in there too but I'm not sure who to swap out for it. Maybe TRN. Lol what is hilarious is I was thinking the exact same thing and would pick the exact same people. I still have that lingering doubt though that the game isn't solved which is what's keeping me going. | ||
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On May 10 2013 03:38 TheRavensName wrote: I think giggles and Palmar need to be lynched,in that order. They have both looked TERRIBLE the entire game, but somehow just scrape on by. And WoS, if I could find a partner for you, I would bomb the hell out of you. Its sadly just too damn hard to put you as anyones friend. No way does GiygaS go second to Palmar. No way in hell. And that's even IF I found him scummy, which I don't. Are you even going to look at anything I wrote or just write off my townread on him completely? And as far as friends go, I dare you to try and lynch me, bro, friends or not. | ||
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You've earned yourself a second look, pal-o'-mine. Scum masoner entirely within the realm of possibility. | ||
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Palmar, yamato, me, BC, who else and on which nights? | ||
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On May 10 2013 05:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I asked him for this info in the mason qt. Still waiting on a response. I think it went, Palmar, yamato, you, sharrant, me I've never quite understood what you're supposed to get out of a mason role or being masoned...the ability to use it well seems beyond me. I'll be looking back at my log with him but I doubt I'll find anything useful. If I do find something worth noting it will definitely be in his filter. | ||
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