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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 02:36 GMT
#3958
Good case.
I'm done guys, I'm just done.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 02:39 GMT
#3962
On May 01 2013 11:38 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 11:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Good case.
I'm done guys, I'm just done.

These aren't cases, these are thoughts I'm posting as I'm reading. I'll go back to note-taking and posting only if I see something, only reason I started posting as I saw stuff is someone (WONDER WHO THAT WAS) was complaining I wasn't posting my thoughts enough.

Show me where I said that.
Well thought-out cases that may take a while to post because critical thought is being undertaken =/= posting your thoughts every 5 seconds.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 02:51 GMT
#3972
I SORRY BH

VE, I reserve judgment on Guygas until the point where he posts something real.
And Ace....goddamn it I dunno but that was funny.

I'll probably be back briefly before I go to bed.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 05:54 GMT
#3992
Yeah, I'm not 3p OO. But thanks for asking. (I didn't even consider the implications of me saying vig better than lynch with respect to 3p extra night life....dude VE is right about you)

Where DID BM go exactly? I'm still unsure as to where we're going with the lynch tomorrow...and I think that's sort of a good thing because we might actually have a day that lasts longer than 2 hours for once. See you guys in a bunch of hours.

Oh and yamato there is no way in hell Sharrant could be mafia. 3p....I dunno possible I guess for the same reasons it's possible for Ace (more likely for Ace imo) but yeah. Other than that and maybe Kush I agree with your list. Still want to see a proper giggles case at some point but yeah, I'm beginning to warm up to the fact that he's just....*something* town. No being rude.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 14:14 GMT
#4014
Alright let's see:
Yamato, good fuckin' case. The most damning thing imo is the vote on Sharrant at a time where it was pretty much only him long after Clarity disappeared and Rayn had long since given up and called him (Sharrant) town; I didn't then, nor could I see now how anyone could suspect him of being mafia. The fact that Hopeless has Clarity's back on an obv bad case looks ruuullll bad even without the association. At least Rayn came up with his own stupid shit to suspect Sharrant of. (Would be nice to have Sharrant around right now though...dunno what happened to him between the first few days and now)

As for OO's case...I'm not sure I follow, sadly. The fact that BC is a vet on a team of inactives could essentially be a reason for Palmar's play as well, or a reason for someone like to Ace to step up (which he has, by comparison to other games I've played with him), and as far as the slip....I don't really get how that's a slip tbh.

OO can you expand on your case for me? The rationale makes sense to me but it just doesn't seem all the damning.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 14:16 GMT
#4015
Oh wait a minute, OO. Is it the comparison between saying you're bad therefore mafia, and then saying townies are bad?

I just caught that. Hmmmm...that IS good. I dunno now...what do??
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 14:51 GMT
#4018
Cobbler--->Palmar(if BC town)--->Hopeless/3p---> win?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 15:08 GMT
#4020
On May 01 2013 23:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well, Yamato's case looks stronger so I suggest we lynch the hopeless one first then move on to deal with the cobbler.

I agree, but that nervousness of having so many vets alive this late in the game is kicking in. I know that rationale pisses them off but fuck 'em. Whatever I'll vote either way; we'll see what the rest of town has to say after the flip.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 16:09 GMT
#4037
On May 02 2013 01:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 01:04 yamato77 wrote:
That whole post is about getting out of the spotlight, actually.

you know what I mean dude, I don't care what it's about. The fact that he posted it means he was putting himself IN the spotlight, in order to DISSUADE Vivax' townread of several players, including flipped scum ShiaoPi.

This doesn't jive with a scum mindset imo.

True, but maybe it's because he didn't want to cherry-pick amongst the townreads; rather he wanted to discredit Vivax altogether, to hell with who was named specifically. I COULD see that but I do agree that from a scum mindset you'd probably want to avoid insinuating anyone on your team is scum at all unless bussing...
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 16:28 GMT
#4043
On May 02 2013 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm pretty interested in BC's lack of torch and pitchfork where WoS is concerned. He seemed like dead set on Wave dying because of the miller claim. Now? Not so much...

Haha this. I'd like to think at this point people consider me town (I could be wrong) but I wanted to wait to see if anyone would bring it up and why.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 19:15 GMT
#4051
Anyone willing to bet Ace was RBed again? e have our 3p gentlemen.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 19:17 GMT
#4054
On May 02 2013 04:10 Palmar wrote:
checked VE, got guilty, am paranoid

Wait I gotta ask about this...in The Game I checked a couple people who died at night, and I didn't get returns back.

Geript did you guys RB me every night but N1?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 19:55 GMT
#4058
On May 02 2013 04:53 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:10 Palmar wrote:
checked VE, got guilty, am paranoid

Wait I gotta ask about this...in The Game I checked a couple people who died at night, and I didn't get returns back.

Geript did you guys RB me every night but N1?

right. We RB'd you every night after you claimed and you claimed on D2.

Ok just making sure. I never was sure if you'd still get a return on a check if the target died.
So what do YOU want to do today?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 20:41 GMT
#4064
On May 02 2013 05:06 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:53 getmoript wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:10 Palmar wrote:
checked VE, got guilty, am paranoid

Wait I gotta ask about this...in The Game I checked a couple people who died at night, and I didn't get returns back.

Geript did you guys RB me every night but N1?

right. We RB'd you every night after you claimed and you claimed on D2.

Ok just making sure. I never was sure if you'd still get a return on a check if the target died.
So what do YOU want to do today?

Drink beer and relax, you? As for a check on dead players... idk I think it depends per mod.

Honestly, I think who I want to kill very much depends on who was roleblocked etc. Like, if we think that there could be a SP, then I want to lynch the fuck out of Ace. If we got a vigilante claim, then I'd wholly ignore Ace. My count is 16 players, so 14-2 or 13-2-1; If it's the latter than we lynch Ace and make it easy. If it's the former then we have 5 mislynches available at least, maybe 6 dependent. Right now, considering the pace of the game I just want to lynch lurkers. It gives us a very good idea of what type of scum team and setup we're looking at in 2-3 days

Let's do work, you and I.
Personally I'm still pretty sure we have a 3rd party, and it's not SK, it's poisoner. It makes the most sense as to why we only had one night with 2 kills; I've explained previously why I think it's likely to be Ace. It's also the simplest explanation if you take RBs into account; rather than try to account for missing kills and whatnot due to stacking of RBs AND kills, I think it was that on N2 both scum and town RBed Ace and that was it. We don't have any vigs because we'd have more people dead---yours truly being one of them. Or they hit 3p with an extra night life in which case they should REALLY claim, but I figure if that were the case they would have done that a while ago. Whoever our JK is has been doing a great job.

Now we can continue to RB Ace as it seems we only have to worry about one death a night that way, or we can let the JK target someone else if people want to be absolutely sure of him since the kills are compulsive. That requires us lynching mafia 2 days in a row (though obv we have room for mislynches at worst) since the poisoner NK takes an extra day. As far as lynch targets goes are we sure we want to lynch into lurkers? VE wanted yamato gone but thought there was some merit to the BC case? Do we want to follow him or OO or head in a different direction? Personally I am a little worried that none of Ace/Palmar/BC/(BM?) have gone down yet so I feel like I'm more likely to vet lynch today---that heuristic does seem to hold value that they're alive for a reason. I think it's more important that we lynch mafia today than Ace (assuming 3p) since he's been kept at bay thus far.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 20:43 GMT
#4066
Also if you'll notice Ace has been a lot less active and helpful now that he's been RBed every night---he knows he's been caught imo.

It's going to come down to mafia hunting now.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 20:46 GMT
#4069
Thinking about it now I'm pretty sure Hopeless has the biggest chance to flip red, followed by BC. Yamato's activity has stayed constant even while mafia comes closer and closer to losing the game while Hopeless and BC's activity levels have trailed off big time as they become demoralized. I know activity level isn't always a good tell but this game it certainly has been.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 20:59 GMT
#4076
On May 02 2013 05:53 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 02 2013 05:06 getmoript wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:53 getmoript wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 02 2013 04:10 Palmar wrote:
checked VE, got guilty, am paranoid

Wait I gotta ask about this...in The Game I checked a couple people who died at night, and I didn't get returns back.

Geript did you guys RB me every night but N1?

right. We RB'd you every night after you claimed and you claimed on D2.

Ok just making sure. I never was sure if you'd still get a return on a check if the target died.
So what do YOU want to do today?

Drink beer and relax, you? As for a check on dead players... idk I think it depends per mod.

Honestly, I think who I want to kill very much depends on who was roleblocked etc. Like, if we think that there could be a SP, then I want to lynch the fuck out of Ace. If we got a vigilante claim, then I'd wholly ignore Ace. My count is 16 players, so 14-2 or 13-2-1; If it's the latter than we lynch Ace and make it easy. If it's the former then we have 5 mislynches available at least, maybe 6 dependent. Right now, considering the pace of the game I just want to lynch lurkers. It gives us a very good idea of what type of scum team and setup we're looking at in 2-3 days

Let's do work, you and I.
Personally I'm still pretty sure we have a 3rd party, and it's not SK, it's poisoner. It makes the most sense as to why we only had one night with 2 kills; I've explained previously why I think it's likely to be Ace. It's also the simplest explanation if you take RBs into account; rather than try to account for missing kills and whatnot due to stacking of RBs AND kills, I think it was that on N2 both scum and town RBed Ace and that was it. We don't have any vigs because we'd have more people dead---yours truly being one of them. Or they hit 3p with an extra night life in which case they should REALLY claim, but I figure if that were the case they would have done that a while ago. Whoever our JK is has been doing a great job.

Now we can continue to RB Ace as it seems we only have to worry about one death a night that way, or we can let the JK target someone else if people want to be absolutely sure of him since the kills are compulsive. That requires us lynching mafia 2 days in a row (though obv we have room for mislynches at worst) since the poisoner NK takes an extra day. As far as lynch targets goes are we sure we want to lynch into lurkers? VE wanted yamato gone but thought there was some merit to the BC case? Do we want to follow him or OO or head in a different direction? Personally I am a little worried that none of Ace/Palmar/BC/(BM?) have gone down yet so I feel like I'm more likely to vet lynch today---that heuristic does seem to hold value that they're alive for a reason. I think it's more important that we lynch mafia today than Ace (assuming 3p) since he's been kept at bay thus far.

I think the right call would be to give a night off of RBing Ace. It's an easy way to exclude him as 3p which just leaves town imo. Doesn't take that long and only costs us 1 and I don't think it even costs us a mislynch. So I don't see a reason to lynch ace currently.

Alright well we need to be sure there's no way scum can fuck this up for us then. As far as I can tell they don't have a RB let and no way of getting alternate NKs so assuming we drop the JK on Ace someone will die N6?
Would be nice if we can lynch at LEAST one scum by that point so we're still in no danger of losing by the time we have to lynch him and lose an extra townie.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 21:07 GMT
#4077
Here's a noodle-scratcher btw, where is Sharrant, and why exactly isn't he dead?
Like...I know he's been town all game but why exactly has he lurked it up the past few days after contributing a ton on the first few days? I would think that scum would find him threat enough to target for NKs (at least moreso than Rayn) but I guess not? Not killing Sharrant over CC and VE makes sense I guess but something still strikes me as odd. I guess they killed Rayn as a gamble that they could frame me instead of getting rid of someone more useful at the time then they had to kill cops?

Where are you Sharrant?! Help us scour the streets of filth!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 21:26 GMT
#4080
On May 02 2013 05:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also,
Where oh where has Bill Murray the town hero gone?

This. Too many people have fucked off in this game and it's a very easy way to lose.
Geript you mentioned you think yamato is scum. Is he your first choice for a mafia lynch today?

Got a case?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 21:32 GMT
#4083
On May 02 2013 06:27 Ace wrote:
We lynch Palmar

Good reasoning.
I'm pretty sure Palmar isn't on the block for today unless you can come up with something that puts him above everyone else we've been talking about.

At least lazy as fuck paranoid cop fits with how he's been playing all game, as unhelpful as it is. You on the other hand are completely different from how you've been playing just a few days ago. Were you roleblocked? Or did you conveniently forget to mention it again?
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