On April 26 2013 09:35 getmoript wrote:
Ok, so replace shitting on VE with shitting on Palmar. Does it make a real difference? Still shitting on someone for Tube and not on his scum read.

The fact that Palmar did not do what ShiaoPi did.

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 00:41 GMT

#1888

On April 26 2013 09:39 getmoript wrote:
I still think the quote is Giygas implicating VE not palmar but whatever.

I can't see how you can possibly think so as he clearly says "It makes Palmar scummy".

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 00:45 GMT

#1890

On April 26 2013 09:38 GiygaS wrote:

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Because the ShiaoPi quote wants to lynch tube, and pointed out he was inactive. Palmar explicitly ignored tube while he was pointing out other inactives and modkills. After reading a bit more of the thread, I can defs see Ace being a third party as well as a mafia, that completely slipped my mind.

Can you explain why you think Ace is scum or 3p?

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 00:53 GMT

#1895

On April 26 2013 09:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
i am very willing to sheep this vote.

What are your reasons for voting GiygaS?

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 00:59 GMT

#1899

On April 26 2013 09:55 GiygaS wrote:
EBWOP (Add to the bolded text in my quote): Or could be 3rd party, and started playing pro-town instead of anti-town.

I'm pretty sure you are just a townie who is on the wrong track. I can understand your thought process quite well, but if you think Ace is now playing in a town mindset, that is not a reason why he would be mafia. It's kinda stupid to assume so. What if Ace was just uninvested on D1?

You should probably look into people you think are scummy now, or throughout the game. Of course if you think Ace has done some stuff on D1 that really points to him being scum then ignore my words, but if that's the case, please point those actions out.

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 01:07 GMT

#1904

On April 26 2013 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:

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WHY CAN YOU ASK THIS QUESTION OF OTHERS BUT NOT ASK THIS QUESTION ABOUT ME?!?!?!? WHAT IN THE HOLY FUCK ARE YOU DOING RAYN?!

Because you said you had motives behind your actions and i don't see them. I see more town-motives behind Ace's questions and actions but i don't like him either, and that's why he is null for me atm.

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 01:08 GMT

#1905

And tbh VE, you look much better now than you did when i voted for you.

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 01:10 GMT

#1907

Actually:
##Unvote: VisceraEyes
##Vote: Clarity_nl
It's time to answer Sharrant's case.

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 01:12 GMT

#1909

On April 26 2013 10:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
/facepalm

I haven't even DONE anything more than when you were arguing that I hadn't done shit rayn. Do you see how that statement infuriates me?

Yes you have, you have asked questions that make sense to me, D1-N1 you didn't do so.

Could you get behind Clarity lynch over ShiaoPi or Palmar?

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 01:20 GMT

#1911

Well what do you think then BM calling Tube town for "wanting to get rid of inactives like Drazak" then?

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 01:21 GMT

#1912

EBWOP:

Well what do you think about BM calling Tube town for "wanting to get rid of inactives like Drazak" then?

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 01:34 GMT

#1917

On April 26 2013 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
grush can you link me to a scum game of yours please?

I really hate this. But there are none on TL. I've checked.

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 01:38 GMT

#1919

A good point. :D
grush go ahead and answer VE.

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 01:42 GMT

#1921

This is stuff i expect from you VE. Whether or not grush is scum you just got upgraded to supertown.

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 01:46 GMT

#1924

grush.

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 01:48 GMT

#1928

VE how often is:
1) Palmar wrong about you
2) you wrong about him
3) you attack each other when both town?

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 01:53 GMT

#1930

hmm fuck. grush has actually rolled mafia and that filter of his says nothing compared to this game and to his other games..

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 02:02 GMT

#1933

On April 26 2013 10:57 VisceraEyes wrote:

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Aren't these three questions asking the same thing? How can he be wrong about me if he's scum and vice versa?

Anyway....this is so hard to answer because we've played a bunch of games together. However I can say with confidence that we're hardly ever wrong about each other when we're both town. We attack each other, but generally arrive at the right conclusion pretty quickly when we're both town.

When we're opposing alignments, we're wrong more often but not much. Side effect of playing a lot of games with someone is being able to read them pretty well, and I've played a lot of games with Palmar (much to my chagrin early on in my career -.-) On the whole he's better at reading me when we're opposing alignments then I am at reading him.

Yeah that is what i was after, in 1 and 2 i meant as the first person being town and the other one scum.
I like Clarity as the best lynch atm. I don't like ShiaoPi and Clarity both disappearing when under hard suspicion. I don't like yamato's answer to BC's case.

Off to bed, cya guys tomorrow.

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 02:03 GMT

#1935

and i really want Palmar to contribute something useful, Ace aswell.

raynpelikoneet

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April 26 2013 03:08 GMT

#1943

Apparently i can't sleep. :E

Ace: I think you are being kinda wishy-washy regarding me. I don't like you saying i'm "temporarily cleared because of activity". If you think i'm town say so, if you think i'm scum, say so, if think i'm null, say so, but don't "clear" me for now because of activity. as you have said, activity has nothing to do with someone being scum/town.

I don't like ShiaoPi lynch as much as Clarity as why i have said earlier (ignore the VE voting for him part), mainly because of my analysis of the NK's at the start of D2. I want to hear more from yamato/BC regarding BC's case, i think yamato's answer was weak, he just said "no U scum, i'll tell more later". I could write something about WoS, but not tonight. I think he has a fair chance of flipping mafia, but Clarity is more likely imo.

I didn't like how Mr.CheeseCake accepted geript's case on GiygaS, as the case was full of nothing. I want him to tell why he did so.