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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 17 2013 00:34 GMT
#4001
Here, I'll spoonfeed this to you why I'm not scum (it's easy for some, harder for others):

First post was during N1.
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On April 10 2013 07:32 Vivax wrote:
I do agree on ObviousOne though, I noticed that he only spent time bullshitting around after posting his Artanis case. Looks to me like he only posted it to look good.

Here, filter http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766&currentpage=73#1456

He was also the 7th or 8th to vote for him, and the fact he felt the need to post such an extensive case only makes him look worse when he could have simply sheeped or pushed others to vote for him.

If you shoot OO you're the next hero.


On April 10 2013 11:34 Vivax wrote:
I wanna lynch Sno_Man or OO. I'm starting to find Mocsta interesting.

I don't think austin is a good target for nuke, he's talkative enough and doesn't troll.


On April 11 2013 01:15 Vivax wrote:
I voted OO btw.

Let's lynch him.


On April 11 2013 01:39 Vivax wrote:
Mocsta let's lynch ObviousOne.
That'd be real gangsta.


On April 11 2013 02:06 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 02:00 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 11 2013 01:39 Vivax wrote:
Mocsta let's lynch ObviousOne.
That'd be real gangsta.


What would be gangsta about it?

Why do you wish to be gangsta?

How will it help town win this mafia game?


He expressed interest into VE when he got under pressure, promised to look into him, never did.But was fine with throwing around his other two reads.

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VE: I've been aware he's in two games since I am/was on the replacement list for his other game (Noir Mini I) so I expect this game to suffer more due to the nature of Noir being instant majority. I'll review him as we approach the midpoint of day so there's hopefully something more there.
Keirathi: I'm more green than null on Kei, but that's more bias based on how I perceive him as a person than a player so now that he's finished jerking off for 12 hours straight [lol take a nap, dude] should be able to identify if my bias is clouding my perception of him.
RO: He's another one I will want to review before the midpoint of day. I believe I mentioned earlier his D0 was more helpful/proactive than he was all game in LX [my opinion, didn't review LX] so he's at least Null.


He started summarizing inconclusive meta points about Artanis when he got under pressure

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@Gonzaw:

Artanis[XP] mafia meta highlights based on his one recorded scum game in the database: Haunted Mafia
- Replaced into game at P64
- GG out P116
- Total of perhaps 8 "useful" posts over 50 pages

Characteristics I picked out from Haunted [2010]:
- Makes summaries {conglomerations of players posts} with blanket statements regarding alignment - I used to do this all the time especially in my earliest games
- Feigned/Real inactivity/unavailability - not necessarily a scum tell but a useful scum tool
- Offers to be "helpful" for a period of time - not taking the initiative and doing something useful himself
- Defensive stance - possibly a product of being under suspicion when being replaced in, but in this game was used to misdirect suspicion on lurkers to non-mafia faction

I'm looking for something more recent, but Artanis tends to host games rather than play... search filter only went back to March 2012 and the database shows no scum games other than Haunted.


to show up the day after as 8th to vote for him with an extensive meta case, but barely considering what had been happening in the thread, and never pushing for any lynch despite posting such a huge case (which was at a weird time cause Artanis was already dead, basically, and imo he only posted it to look good after flip.


On April 11 2013 10:08 Vivax wrote:
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On April 11 2013 09:53 Mocsta wrote:
On April 11 2013 09:41 Vivax wrote:
On April 11 2013 09:39 Mocsta wrote:
o vivax thats a twist of events

austin wasnt the strongest scum.cndidate going forward.today

to release the check is protown as its meant to remove an option from discussion so we can focus better


What if I fakeclaim, oh look I tried to pick cop it wasn't available sowwy I'm just a VT.

Nothing going to change if I claim. Scum can lie, and it doesn't make anyone town. I'd rather show I'm town through my actions, not help scum choose their NK targets.

Thats not a response to what i said.

I commented that u think austin and kei and sno doing a power play.

U talkjng about the claim. Im not asking u to claim. Im just saying u r the hold up.


I don't leave any stone unturned. I don't have enough base to claim they're doing powerplay, but I have a base to say hat MZ and OO look really really really scummy.


On April 12 2013 01:57 Vivax wrote:
Question: S & B claimed that MZ is town america, but where's the D1 nuke then?

I can currently just support a shot on OO, he's scum.

Rereading Sharrant and BM now since MZ and S & B seem to be off the hook.


On April 12 2013 03:05 Vivax wrote:
Mocsta is not scum he doesn't do abrasive shit as scum, go read Personality 2, he was nice and reasonable, and he didn't try to jump into your face with what he had to say.

Lynch ObviousOne.

On April 12 2013 03:12 Vivax wrote:
I don't care about mocsta either way. OO best lynch, he scum tryin to look good with his cases but no interest whatsoever in pursuing what he claims to believe.


On April 12 2013 09:08 Vivax wrote:
Unvoted Sharrant cause OO is a better lynch if I'm the first or second.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 17 2013 00:36 GMT
#4002
Compare it to yamato's followup after his cases or posts against Artanis, VE and OO and you learned something new on how to find scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
April 17 2013 00:39 GMT
#4003
Mocsta, did you already use your KP?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 17 2013 00:52 GMT
#4004
I'm fine with switching from Shelvocke to yamato
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 17 2013 00:59 GMT
#4005
Shelvocke is only a lurker and yam does have suspicious stuff in his filter.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 17 2013 01:01 GMT
#4006
Lol, listening to Vivax is a fatal mistake.

These association cases are terrible when we have confirmed evidence that mafia have been bussing this game.

Get real, people.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 17 2013 01:03 GMT
#4007
Why is shelvocke "just a lurker" this late in the game with 3 out of the 200 pages of posts in the thread?

Shouldn't that tell you something?
Writer@WriterYamato
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 17 2013 01:05 GMT
#4008
Do you see anything scummy in his filter? I'm studying now.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 17 2013 01:06 GMT
#4009
Has he posted enough content to reliably judge him on?

Do you think that's intentional or not?
Writer@WriterYamato
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 17 2013 01:10 GMT
#4010
I'll care about this tomorrow after the test. Right now I'm just succeeding at not studying or thinking critically about the game.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 17 2013 01:19 GMT
#4011
Guys stop it pls.

I have been going through vote thread.

I wanted to.compare yam to.vivax but i noticed.something.different.

Im.on phone. Too hars to.quote. Sorry.
But we been fighting with each othwr.

Scum is lurking in the shadow with a green check telling us what we want to.hear.

Just like randombum in mafia lx.

Scum is sinani

Let me walk the points.and feel free to critically evaluate.

Day 1 sinani.votes snb with bm.. This swt off.my radar already.

Remaining cycles he always follows thread sentiment. And ignores all attempts to.communicate with him.

Day1 thwre was the scum.slip with ve. The be safe i give null with tinge of.red.

But kicker is in that post he votes snb.

So why is it a kicker?

A couple posts down.he responda to gonzaw requeat for a vig shot. And says.BM.

Out of.no.where. Fuethwr. Bm had a vote on.snb before.sinani put a vote down.

Thats outright weird. Doeant feel natural and we kmow scum were bussing each other hard. Sinani fits into that pattern.

Since scum been getting lynched. He juat shuts up and follows sentiment. Makes sense why no concede too. Hes never been under pressure.

Sinani needs to go.
Im happy with shevlocke foe this cycle as number two.

If that doeant work. Vivax.next. Then oats.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 17 2013 01:29 GMT
#4012
On April 17 2013 10:19 Mocsta wrote:
Guys stop it pls.

I have been going through vote thread.

I wanted to.compare yam to.vivax but i noticed.something.different.

Im.on phone. Too hars to.quote. Sorry.
But we been fighting with each othwr.

Scum is lurking in the shadow with a green check telling us what we want to.hear.

Just like randombum in mafia lx.

Scum is sinani

Let me walk the points.and feel free to critically evaluate.

Day 1 sinani.votes snb with bm.. This swt off.my radar already.

Remaining cycles he always follows thread sentiment. And ignores all attempts to.communicate with him.

Day1 thwre was the scum.slip with ve. The be safe i give null with tinge of.red.

But kicker is in that post he votes snb.

So why is it a kicker?

A couple posts down.he responda to gonzaw requeat for a vig shot. And says.BM.

Out of.no.where. Fuethwr. Bm had a vote on.snb before.sinani put a vote down.

Thats outright weird. Doeant feel natural and we kmow scum were bussing each other hard. Sinani fits into that pattern.

Since scum been getting lynched. He juat shuts up and follows sentiment. Makes sense why no concede too. Hes never been under pressure.

Sinani needs to go.
Im happy with shevlocke foe this cycle as number two.

If that doeant work. Vivax.next. Then oats.

Look, it's real easy:

Tomorrow he needs to activate double lynch again.
If he doesn't, we lynch him.

Solves any problems.
cause if he activates double-lynch, he's not lying about his role bonus, thus not mafia because the greencheck is for real. (he'd be last mafia member and nothing else they had can change flips)

So by activating double-lynch, he is absolutely, beyond any doubt, town.
And we can always vote for no-lynch on the second lynch, if you don't wanna rush it, but I'd be in favor of using both lynches straight. Doesn't matter too much though.

So yeah tl;dr sinani can't even win if he's scum, and he can do shit to guarantee he isn't in the first place.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 17 2013 01:29 GMT
#4013
On April 17 2013 10:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 10:19 Mocsta wrote:
Guys stop it pls.

I have been going through vote thread.

I wanted to.compare yam to.vivax but i noticed.something.different.

Im.on phone. Too hars to.quote. Sorry.
But we been fighting with each othwr.

Scum is lurking in the shadow with a green check telling us what we want to.hear.

Just like randombum in mafia lx.

Scum is sinani

Let me walk the points.and feel free to critically evaluate.

Day 1 sinani.votes snb with bm.. This swt off.my radar already.

Remaining cycles he always follows thread sentiment. And ignores all attempts to.communicate with him.

Day1 thwre was the scum.slip with ve. The be safe i give null with tinge of.red.

But kicker is in that post he votes snb.

So why is it a kicker?

A couple posts down.he responda to gonzaw requeat for a vig shot. And says.BM.

Out of.no.where. Fuethwr. Bm had a vote on.snb before.sinani put a vote down.

Thats outright weird. Doeant feel natural and we kmow scum were bussing each other hard. Sinani fits into that pattern.

Since scum been getting lynched. He juat shuts up and follows sentiment. Makes sense why no concede too. Hes never been under pressure.

Sinani needs to go.
Im happy with shevlocke foe this cycle as number two.

If that doeant work. Vivax.next. Then oats.

Look, it's real easy:

Tomorrow he needs to activate double lynch again.
If he doesn't, we lynch him.

Solves any problems.
cause if he activates double-lynch, he's not lying about his role bonus, thus not mafia because the greencheck is for real. (he'd be last mafia member and nothing else they had can change flips)

So by activating double-lynch, he is absolutely, beyond any doubt, town.
And we can always vote for no-lynch on the second lynch, if you don't wanna rush it, but I'd be in favor of using both lynches straight. Doesn't matter too much though.

So yeah tl;dr sinani can't even win if he's scum, and he can do shit to guarantee he isn't in the first place.

and here i thought i had the hang of it
Don't let me stop you.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 17 2013 01:42 GMT
#4014
Do you think he'd get double vote rig?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 17 2013 01:45 GMT
#4015
@Sinani. What is your character's name?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 17 2013 01:52 GMT
#4016
Well im.shutting up till i have comp access then

Evwything is just too hard right now
Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 17 2013 01:57 GMT
#4017
On April 17 2013 10:42 geript wrote:
Do you think he'd get double vote rig?

While I do, that doesn't matter, point is it's a bonus that's NOT gf.

I highly doubt he'd get 2 different ones, one of them having absolutely zero to do with his role.
Don't let me stop you.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 17 2013 02:03 GMT
#4018
Right. I think I had that thought before. Ignoring Sinani today for sure.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 17 2013 02:04 GMT
#4019
RO do you prefer Shelvocke or Yamato?
Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 17 2013 02:13 GMT
#4020
The one I'm voting for.
Don't let me stop you.
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