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On March 21 2013 01:06 marvellosity wrote: this is hilarious because i did the same thing with kitaman and katina. Fairly sure I referred to kitaman as "she" on more than one occasion in my early days. kitaMAN didn't throw me off at all i remember being confused about kitaman because someone called him "katiwoman" in one of my first games and of course there's the Zona confusion. a classic | ||
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Just a little reminder to some people and all people, something that was brought up in the latest podcast and that I agree with: it's a bad idea to have a 150 page thread after day1. Especially for a guy like me who probably doesn't even have 3rd grade reading level, it's really exhausting and it burns me out. So lets consolidate and not screw around too much. Yay! | ||
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On March 26 2013 07:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Got my role PM and i'm ready to go! Yo hey yo, why do you think this is not obvious? Because it happens all the fucking time. | ||
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@Acrofales What you think about Palmar? What did Nisani201 say to make you think that he is scum? Just a line or two, I'm not a big fan of huge posts. And yes, I did read your filter so please bear with me if there was something I didn't understand and say it one more time ![]() @InsertSmurfHere On March 26 2013 23:38 InsertSmurfHere wrote: [...] Prplhz I have seen be lurky early as town, but by the end of day 1 I expect to know his alignment. He's good enough as town to put forth effort justifying his suspicions. [...] That can't be true unless you're like ... no, that can't be true. | ||
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I voted Grackaroni for all the reasons presented by Palmar, Hapahauli and Keirathi. I liked them all. He's also the best lynch. I haven't been around much so far which is the explanation for why I didn't post a lot. Just got up to date on the thread. My Grackaroni vote was around page 16 and nothing has changed my mind since that. | ||
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On March 27 2013 05:30 Nisani201 wrote: The initial case on Grack was bad, it was based off of his reactions to certain things, which weren't really scummy. He didn't do anything scummy after that. As I said earlier, the only reason people are voting for him is because of Palmar. Aren't you worried that Palmar is making bad cases and people are just sheeping them? It kinda seems like you think it's a bad thing but you're perfectly fine with it. | ||
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On March 27 2013 05:31 prplhz wrote: @strongandbig I didn't really follow the raynpelikoneet debacles because he's posting a lot and picking fights with everybody and he's grandmother and that's a plus for now. inb4palmar his* | ||
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On March 27 2013 05:34 Keirathi wrote: Err, what? You just voted Grack 2 hours ago, which was during page ~25 or so. Yea I wasn't up to date on the thread at that point. | ||
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On March 27 2013 06:28 sinani206 wrote: Question for you: what's your problem with me? What makes you think I have a problem with you? | ||
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On March 27 2013 11:16 Grackaroni wrote: lol see what the hell is this. I thought he was town but nobody is going to listen to me so now I'll just vote for town. Some people do that when they get frustrated. I think he's frustrated and that's why he's doing it. @Palmar Why is Acrofales town? | ||
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On March 27 2013 12:58 Hapahauli wrote: People need to stop being idiots and vote for Prplhz. I challenge you to figure out how this quote comes from a townie: Prplhz sheeped Palmar on his Grack case. He should find him town. Therefore, he passively suggests to Nisani that Nisani should find Palmar more suspicious? Yeah no. I thought it was really weird that Nisani201 thought that Palmar's case on Grackaroni was bullshit yet he didn't seem to think that Palmar was scum. Palmar is a guy who you can rely on having good reads for good reason but Nisani201 just dismissed the read without trying at all to put any pressure on Palmar and I found that weird so I poked him. | ||
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I'm not really sure who to vote for right now. No one else strike me in the same way as as Grackaroni so I'm going to reread some stuff. | ||
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On March 27 2013 22:20 marvellosity wrote: It would be much better if you accepted the strength of the argument rather than arguing me off my scumread like you did in Clothes Mafia ![]() Kind of unfair to blame for me changing your opinion ![]() | ||
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On March 28 2013 00:01 Palmar wrote: Did you read his posting so far? He's very clearly reading the thread and putting effort in his posts. Even if he is scum, which is a possibility (him realizing marv might be burned by the Personality mafia stuff and his response to my case on Grack are both somewhat strange), he is not playing scum you can catch without any information. I cannot say he isn't scum, but I can say I'm not lynching him right now. Well, actually you said in this post On March 27 2013 09:36 Palmar wrote: That question is so stupid, just like your claim. Since I think you're town, yet you're playing like an idiot I'm just going to ignore you for the rest of the game since you're clearly not capable of playing well. that you think he's town. So you can say that you think he is town but you cannot say that he isn't scum or what exactly are you saying? | ||
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On March 28 2013 00:07 marvellosity wrote: I'm going to answer for Palmar because this is silly. Very rarely are things binary in mafia. Having a town-read on someone doesn't mean you 100% think they're town. How about that Nisani meta you promised me? My problem is that in Palmar's reasonable for why Acrofales is town, he's actually spending more time explaining why he could be scum. I don't see what it is that you all see in Acrofales. I get that we're not lynching him today because he's reasonably active and there's probably nothing damning about him, but I'm still interested in why you actually all think he's so townie because I'm getting more of a Personality 2 feeling about him. | ||
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I mean we can lynch him but I don't see why he should be scum. Gonna read into someone else. | ||
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On March 28 2013 02:01 Acrofales wrote: I don't disagree with your conclusion (obviously), but what happened in those three minutes to change your mind? Uh I read something in that old game, he didn't seem to sheep people and instead he actively did stuff on D1. He actually went against all thread opinion to go for his very own lynch candidate. I think Nisani201 is hard to read though. He plays similar as scum and as town and his filter usually isn't very long so it's hard to follow his thought process. I don't know, he could be scum. I'm not terribly convinced but I have nothing better right now. I don't like the InsertSmurfHere lynch. I think his defence of me against a rampaging Hapahauli/Keirathi duo looked good. | ||
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On March 28 2013 02:24 Hapahauli wrote: My original case has very little to do with meta (Yamato brought that up in your defense, but I obviously disagree with the comparison). The issue I have is your complete lack of contributions thusfar, and you spreading suspicion on multiple players in non-committal ways (soft-pushing). This, combined with your general lack of contribution this game makes you pretty darn scummy. No it doesn't. I agree that I hadn't contributed a lot, hopefully that will (or has) change(d). I have no idea about the "spreading suspicion" thing, I think that's all in your head. I remember once I got lynched for not asking questions, now I'm getting lynched for asking questions. Anyway, it's all in your head. I think I have the smallest filter in this game outside of the Insani90210s so that shouldn't be hard to go over things again. | ||
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On March 28 2013 02:38 Hapahauli wrote: But already here, this is complete bullshit. I thought that Acrofales was scum for the first long time so I asked Palmar for his opinion, but I wasn't really all that concerned with Palmar's opinion per se (because he looks townie enough to me already), I was worried about Acrofales alignment and why people thought he was town. Now tell me, how on earth is this spreading suspicion? Do you honestly believe that anybody did anything other than maybe take a harder look on Acrofales because of what I said here?Nisani201 and sinani206 have a history and the last time I played with either of them, I played with both of them (Normal Mini Mafia I) so I prodded him for his opinion on his pal. Maybe he had some extra information no one else knew about because of how they know each other outside of mafia. Again, this "spreading suspicion" is all in your head, pick out one single name from the playerlist who will think that sinani206 is more likely to be scum because of this question. You can't. It's a fucking question and it's absolutely nothing else.Again, you are making shit up. I am asking a scum read about why he thinks Nisani201 is scum because what he said in his initial case was "LYNCH ALL LIARS", nothing about Nisani201 being scum. How on earth is asking a person to expound on his own scum read, that I am sceptical towards, spreading suspicion? What the fuck?The spreading suspicion thing is in regard to your early-game questioning. I'm generally fine with questioning, but it's very scummy in the manner that you did it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=36#720 Basically as I outlined here, you repeatedly spread suspicion on players without drawing any conclusion or analysis. On Acro... Okay, I can actually kind of see your point about the InsertSmurfHere suspicion and that's kind of true. I thought it was odd and I didn't mind that people knew about it. Originally I had written a lot more to InsertSmurfHere in this quote where I speculated on his identity but I decided that it wasn't all that important so I dropped it and just posted what I found weird: that there's someone who thinks he knows my alignment on D1 when I get lynched all the time regardless of alignment. And that is a little weird. Not only are your suspicions devoid of analysis, but you never follow up on them. You "poke" a player with a question, incite suspicion, and then that's the end of the issue. This is textbook scum-behavior really. I didn't follow up on my questions soon after I asked them in the thread. I generally don't do that, especially not when there's someone else in the thread that I'd rather like to lynch (Grackaroni). Your entire case is excessively speculative and you're wildly drawing conclusions from just about no evidence. Even though InsertSmurfHere showed you how to go about me, you didn't at any point reconsider even though my filter is very short and easy to reread. | ||
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On March 28 2013 03:24 Hapahauli wrote: ##Unvote I leik prplzh I'd would be pretty sweet and awesome if you could explain what made you change your mind. | ||
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On March 28 2013 03:33 Hapahauli wrote: I rather liked the last post, and you've been slowly improving overnight in terms of analysis. Combined with that is this lingering suspicion of InsertSmurfHere for his defense of you last night. Details will be disclosed shortly. You just read a rather big post and decided to unvote in less than one minute. Maybe you have 3rd grade reading level but in my opinion that's rather fast. You seemed very adamant about me yesterday (or whenever you made that case, like 14 hours ago). | ||
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Finally I'd like to point out that just about everything he said about me was, at least in my opinion, perfectly true. He wasn't just bullshitting, he was actually interpreting my posts really well and squeezed every little thing out of them that he could while not taking anything too far. Good analysis in my opinion. Would not lynch. | ||
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@marvellosity What do you make of InsertSmurfHere's reluctance to drop his suspicions of two claimed masons? | ||
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On March 29 2013 00:48 marvellosity wrote: Correct/good analysis is super-fucking easy as mafia, sweetie. Correct analysis obviously is, good analysis not so much and no matter what, good analysis should just about never be held against people. | ||
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On March 29 2013 00:55 marvellosity wrote: See my last post. It's not the fact that he is potentially correct with the analysis, nor is it about whether the analysis in question is good. You're misrepresenting/not getting what people are getting at with this. Considering the post is about you, you should ask yourself why *you* like it, but so many other players seem to have a problem with it. That's my little thought exercise for you ^_^ Because the only person who has read as much into my posts as InsertSmurfHere is me. I don't care that he was right when no one else was as long as he was right for the right reasons. Would you really have felt better about InsertSmurfHere if he had just jumped on me after Haparathi and Keihauli did? | ||
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On March 29 2013 01:04 Hapahauli wrote: The argument myself and others are making is that yamatos defense of you is seemingly correct but not "good" due to how littl you had done at that point in the game. I'm saying that the reason he was so adamant is because: He was right and for the right reasons. He takes a certain pride in being correct about me specifically. That's perfectly alright for me. | ||
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On March 27 2013 09:09 strongandbig wrote: Hey older peoples - (actually woah I'm pretty sure that other than Palmar, marv and I have been playing the longest of anyone here wtf. maybe acro? grack doesn't count cause he wasn't really playing this whole time) but anyway older peoples like marv and acro - why is palmar talking so much on day 1? at first I was like wow palmar cares about this game guess he's town, but now i'm just sort of like wtf is going on. do you think he's just super town or what? i might be wrong but i think sinani cohosted palmar's first game (which was also my first game) okay back to reading | ||
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On March 29 2013 05:15 strongandbig wrote: yeah i forgot you and sinani and nisani because you tend not to say many things. well mostly that's true for them, idk why i forgot you. w/e because you'd think this was my first game :/ | ||
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On March 29 2013 05:59 Hapahauli wrote: Point is, we dont' know who's going to die tonight. I have 1 hour before the deadline, and I want to figure out what you're thinking now in case I get shot. I don't know. I just read up on strongandbig and but I don't think he's scum. I started with him because people are hating on him real bad and I want form my own opinion. | ||
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On March 29 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote: Okay... so who are you suspicious of? You have literally no scum-reads to speak of. That's right, I don't have a scum read I want to discuss in the thread right now. I might or might not have a scum read I don't want to discuss in the thread right now. | ||
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On March 29 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote: Also, why do you think SnB is town? This feels a lot like his mafia-game in Chrono Trigger, where he couldn't sustain his activity past early D1. I don't know about Chrono Trigger (I always avoid reading up on that game when it comes to meta because I don't understand the setup in the slightest) but I don't see him being less active in this game than in his other town games. On the other hand his posting has been a lot less meticulous than in his scum games and way more like his town game. | ||
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On March 29 2013 06:08 prplhz wrote: I don't know about Chrono Trigger (I always avoid reading up on that game when it comes to meta because I don't understand the setup in the slightest) but I don't see him being less active in this game than in his other town games. On the other hand his posting has been a lot less meticulous than in his scum games and way more like his town game. I also think it's a little early to conclude anything about his supposed failing activity. | ||
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On March 29 2013 06:12 Hapahauli wrote: Okay, defend ALL THE THINGS. That's cool and all, but who else would you suggest for a lynching? What reason could you possibly have to not disclose your reads right now? I wouldn't suggest anybody for lynching. If I had a gun and I had to use it, I could probably come up with someone but luckily I don't. Figure something out yourself to the second question. You want me to say that I'm not sure about my reads and I'd prefer to hold on to them for now? You want me to say that I'm a vigilante and I don't want to poke the scum I'm shooting in the thread before deadline? Should be pretty obvious that I don't want to talk about it so I'm not talking about it. No, asking me to talk about it is not going to change my mind. | ||
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On March 29 2013 06:17 Hapahauli wrote: With the DT thing, you should almost never check your scumreads or people you think you can get lynched. You should be checking null reads. Whaddya think of our buddy prplhz anyway? Do you think I'm scum Hapahauli? | ||
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On March 29 2013 06:39 cDgCorazon wrote: Just in case my next game is a TvT, I'm going to post my thoughts going into D2. Obviously, my main target is Yamato. He's basically shitting up the thread with baseless accusations and meta cases and isn't actually scum hunting. Here's the definition of "Projection" from Wikipedia: + Show Spoiler + Projection: Projection is a primitive form of paranoia. Projection also reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the undesirable impulses or desires without becoming consciously aware of them; attributing one's own unacknowledged unacceptable/unwanted thoughts and emotions to another; includes severe prejudice, severe jealousy, hypervigilance to external danger, and "injustice collecting". It is shifting one's unacceptable thoughts, feelings and impulses within oneself onto someone else, such that those same thoughts, feelings, beliefs and motivations are perceived as being possessed by the other. Funny how that sums up Yamato's cases on me. I'll leave it at that. I'm still a bit iffy on Marv, especially after the fact that he led the bandwagons on two townies (Kei and Nisani) and decided 2 hours before that Kei was scum. It's very interesting, but I can't see a town or scum motivation behind his actions. I'll keep an eye on him. Last but not least is Palmar. Looking through his filter again, I found a lot of posts talking about town reads while he was tunneling Grack. He made a lot of town reads (at least 6-7), and did not give very much explanation on many of them. However, the other stumbling block with Palmar is Grack's kill. If Palmar was scum, why would he kill his tunnel and the person that his primary scumhunting was on? I could see him being town from that, but his other actions have me worried. His random flip-flopping between Nisani and Sinani was really sketch as well, and his D1 play just worries me. Why exactly do you think that scum killed Grackaroni? | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:23 strongandbig wrote: at least 2 What do you base this on? | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:12 cDgCorazon wrote: Well there is explanation for Palmar kill: Scum afraid of him being good analyzer, kills his scumread to try and discredit him. It doesn't lead to him getting lynched, so they take him out. Unless there is a town vig that didn't call their shot, can we assume it was a scum vig? Alright Yamato, the clock is ticking. ##Vote: Yamato/Smurf This post is really annoying me. First off, does he come out saying "Well, there is an explanation for Palmar kill" when nobody was asking for an explanation? Town Palmar getting hit on N1 isn't really something that requires an explanation. Why isn't he analyzing Hapahauli? This is all about Palmar, but Hapahauli got hit as well. Why is he so sure it was a vigilante and not regular KP? "Unless there is a town vig [...] can we assuem it was a scum vig?" | ||
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On March 29 2013 20:44 marvellosity wrote: prplhz, explain your vote on me you pussy. I don't know who is scum and maybe doing something will lead to something. | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:27 Oatsmaster wrote: prp. Look at SnB. Is he scum or town NOW? He hasn't been around much lately and of course that sucks. | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:02 cDgCorazon wrote: Prp are you going to actually do something this game or just nitpick my posts? Just explain your post will you? | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:07 cDgCorazon wrote: This is what I said on Palmar before. That's why I had made that post thinking about Palmar's kill. Also in my filter (because you obviously aren't reading the thread): Let me know when you are interested in actually trying. That makes no sense at all. You are worrying about Palmar's night kill because of a post you made where you talked about how Palmar could either be town or scum? I fail to see the connection. Rereading that post, why is it a "stumbling block" that Grackaroni was killed? It seems like you're regarding something you think points at Palmar being town as an obstacle. You are also berating me for setup speculation when you are doing the exact same thing in this post. The big difference though, is that your setup speculation is a conclusion that make absolutely no sense (either town or scum vig, no chance of KP) while my "setup speculation" is an interesting question. | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:19 Hapahauli wrote: Prplhz. Why are you going after the claimed mason? Because I don't like him. | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:21 Hapahauli wrote: Like do you doubt his claim? Do you think he's suspicious? Because his claim (combined with Kei's general townieness) makes this whole line of questioning worthless. I doubt his alignment. Yes I think he's suspicious. I don't know about Keirathi's general townieness, didn't they claim because he was about to get lynched yesterday? | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:23 Hapahauli wrote: Yah. And did you read anything from Kei since then? Nothing that made me think he's obviously town. What do you think of that post I don't like? | ||
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On March 30 2013 05:54 Hapahauli wrote: I'd be screaming it in the thread if I was convinced. Definetely Yamato. As far as the 2nd guy, I'd appreciate some self-determination rather than open sheeping. You know who my vote's on. I dont' know where it'll be by the end of the day though. I'm just kind of lost and I was hoping we could talk about it. | ||
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On March 30 2013 07:27 cDgCorazon wrote: "I just made a really stupid post, I'll just draw attention away from it." Haha that's really funny. But really, what have you been masoning about? | ||
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On March 30 2013 07:30 cDgCorazon wrote: Nothing. The last thing he told me to do was stop getting Yamato mad yesterday. Why don't you talk more to each other? Bouncing analysis with a confirmed townie is really awesome, no? | ||
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On March 30 2013 07:42 cDgCorazon wrote: We already did. Before yesterday. We don't need to share every thought with each other. Are you going to go anywhere with this? What exactly are you hoping to accomplish with your attitude? In case it's not obvious, I'm not just buying your mason claim. That's why I am asking you about you masoning. You never explained that post that bothered me at all so I have no reason to drop my suspicions and I'm not going to unless you help me out. So can you just answer my questions without the attitude? I'm not a very demanding player, I am simply asking for an explanation of one single post along with a description of how you are using your mason powers and you seem overly defensive, not answering and giving an attitude, and that's not helping at all. | ||
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On March 30 2013 07:52 marvellosity wrote: He was town there though? What are you getting at? lol i'm going outside now | ||
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On March 30 2013 08:13 strongandbig wrote: Sinani got autocorrected on my phine what's a phine? are you just messing with me? I think his posting remind me more of this than of this so I don't want to lynch him. I don't care that he's not around at all. There's a reason sinani206 hasn't played on this forum for a while and it probably has something to do with how other players sometimes feel about him, and I think sometimes it's even perfectly reasonable to feel that way about him (though I don't remember that he's ever ruined any game I've been in) because: sometimes sinani206 does aggravating shit for no reason. As I see it, the reason sinani206 isn't around right now is that he got bored with the game after helping to mislynch his pal and so he left. It has absolutely nothing to do with his alignment. | ||
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On March 30 2013 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Has somebody been rude or something to sinani? And mislynching your friend is not really a good reason to stop playing don't you think? I don't know if people have been rude to sinani206. No I don't think so. If I had any clue I'd probably know what marvellosity just said about me but I don't. That's probably fortunate. | ||
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On April 01 2013 06:21 Keirathi wrote: So you're saying Smurf is a VT? He didn't die. Then why are you voting him? goon | ||
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On April 01 2013 06:24 Keirathi wrote: Oh, vanilla as in no power. Not vanilla as in Vanilla Townie? Does it make them a day vig, or can they only use it at night? night only | ||
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On April 01 2013 07:01 strongandbig wrote: So this implies that mafia only have one factional KP. In that case, they most likely have a vig. This vig is most likely prplhz. Using prplhz's power as claimed makes little to no sense on palmar - he didn't give any indication that he was a VT. It makes a ton of sense for scum. Alternate possibility: scum KP is 2 until one member dies, so when acro died their KP went down to 1. Prplhz, why did you use your power for a non-confirmed only-sort-of check on scum instead of to give town a gun? Marv and I have both claimed that we are vanilla townies, did you ask kurumi what would happen if our role claims are correct and you target us? what you're medic marv is roleblocker no i didn't ask that | ||
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On April 01 2013 07:04 marvellosity wrote: I'm a vanilla townie but a one-shot roleblocker, much the same as s&b was with medic. if my role gives you a gun then it's more like "gives random people a gun" than "gives vanilla a gun" and i didn't consider that even though kurumi is hosting. | ||
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On April 01 2013 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Idk, a lot of prplhz's D2 posts include questioning people about scum KP and it seems like he is legitmately trying to catch scum with his questions. Might be a well planned claim from scum. If prplhz is town the targets make sense if some things just match. There is no reason for N2 to kill a blue role or target anyone other than Smurf basically. prplhz were you trying to kill Palmar or give him a gun? Why exactly did you target Palmar N1? i had no read on palmar n1. he was townie early but he didn't care much about lynch (saying "i can lynch anybody" and then in the end he just kind of meh'd while we lynched into 6%) and he wasn't active at night so i thought i'd give him and gun and see what happened. if he looked scum on d2 then i could just give him another gun (would kill him). i didn't at all predict that he was blue. | ||
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yo ho ho a pirate ye be. at night you can target someone but you're so drunk it will fail. you may choose to walk the plank, be keelhauled or marooned. | ||
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On April 01 2013 07:37 strongandbig wrote: Okay two things First, prplhz if your role works as claimed then how were you "unsure" whether you killed palmar? After the flip you should have known that your power would've delivered a bullet to the head not a gun. At that point, I'm pretty sure the logical thing to say is not "maybe I killed him". Second, I don't buy the explanation for choosing palmar. You're saying you chose someone who you had no read on, just to see what would happen? And that to do this you chose palmar? That makes much less sense to me than the alternative, scum explanation. Third, if we hypothesize that marv's and my roles were phrased the way they are because of the interaction with prplhz's role, what seems more likely - that it was done to make a town prplhz more powerful or to make a scum prplhz less powerful? Okay that was three things I guess. i don't know what would have happened if i had not targetted palmar. still don't. palmar seemed to be town but then he seemed to get more uninterested in the game. i thought a gun would give him more interest in the game and give me a better idea about him. if he's town and he has a gun, good. if he's scum then i give him another gun the next night and he shoots his own brains out, good. i never thought that he'd just die right there. in hindsight i probably shouldn't have done that but i never considered that everybody was blue. i knew i was blue, grack was blue, kei and cora both blue, how many blues could there be? | ||
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On April 01 2013 07:50 strongandbig wrote: Okay wait idea brain If we assume that five scum in this setup is unlikely, then that means oats and prp are likely to not be scum together. So we can test both their role claims at the same time by having prp target oats. If prp is lying and oats is telling the truth, oats won't get the gun.get the gun. If oats is lying and prp is telling the truth, then oats will die. If both are telling the truth, then we have oats with a gun and we can tell him who to shoot with it. what did oats claim | ||
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On April 01 2013 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it's not. This way we have no way of knowing if prplhz's claim is legit. Had he gunned sinani he could have proved his claim on N3 by regunning sinani -> kill him. Smurf hangs anyways today. yes it is. | ||
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anyway it sucked when i saw palmar flip blue because maybe i did that and killing one of the best townies on n1 isn't really what i was hoping to do this game so when the opportunity to play it safe came up, i did just that. giving the gun to someone who is 100% getting lynched tomorrow is the best idea unless: 1) i'm really sure he's vanilla scum AND there's someone i am really sure is vanilla townie and is going to make it to tomorrow OR there's someone i am really sure is blue scum 2) i'm really sure he's vanilla townie AND there's someone i am really sure is vanilla townie and is going to make it to tomorrow OR there's someone i am really sure is blue scum so playing it safe is giving it to smurf. also, in response to marv "suboptimal" and rayn "really bad", what would you have done n1? | ||
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first i wanted to give it to acro because scum. i considered claiming so that i could coordinate with any other kp and they could shoot smurf. then acro died. then i considered giving it to smurf or to a vanilla townie. i ask hapa if i should claim so that vanilla townies can warn me before i kill them but decide against it because n1. it never really occurred to me that i could kill sinani and confirm the entire scum team, probably because i don't think that's true at all and because it could backfire if sinani was scum. i would have held it if i didn't know 100% that smurf is dead today. hope this helps | ||
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seriously? because they're not mod confimed townies. read the following sentence: it never occurred to me to execute your plan (that i don't fully get) so that's why i never considered it and that's why i never implemented it. that's really what there is to it, we can argue all day about whose plan is better but in the end i never thought of your plan. make of that whatever you want. | ||
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i can't really ask him if i can use my role on your role because that would confirm your role tried to ask in a tricky way but he's a sneaky pole why don't you ask if your role is considered vanilla or a power role? | ||
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usually you're not informed when you are visited by someone (dt,watcher,framer,younameit), you ONLY get informed if you are actually shot On April 01 2013 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: [...] My condition is that i can only kill masons. This means me/Hapa/Acro/Grack and Keir/Cora. During night I can either check if someone is in a mason circle or shoot someone. If they are mason they die, if not, nothing happens. [...] | ||
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since when are you informed of a shot that never happened oats even says that he was shot On April 02 2013 22:31 Oatsmaster wrote: Kk I got notification of being shot at 9.12 TL time. So therefore Kurumi just caused a whole lotta nonsense;. Thanks buddy <3 but his explanation to why he didn't die is that he wasn't shot and this whole "kurumi late host" is nonsense if anything did you not send out all notifications immediately after deadline last night? | ||
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i also don't know why you want me to STOP THESE ALLEGATIONS since your scum team right now has to be smurf/sinani/me. why are you worried about what scum thinks about you? anyway if you and rayn are telling the truth then i need another scum. | ||
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"you were shot" that means that you were shot and then when you somehow are still alive i would wonder what the hell happened and not accept a role which apparently informs people that they are shot even when they aren't shot. like this is borderline bastard hosting if people are informed that they're shot when they aren't actually shot. | ||
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have you ever seen a role that informs people that they were shot when they weren't shot? | ||
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On April 02 2013 23:44 Oatsmaster wrote: It didnt inform me I was shot. I got a notification saying someone visited me or whatever. On April 02 2013 22:31 Oatsmaster wrote: Kk I got notification of being shot at 9.12 TL time. So therefore Kurumi just caused a whole lotta nonsense;. Thanks buddy <3 | ||
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On April 03 2013 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah yeah bleh whatever, im emotional KILL ME. [...] that's not what he said though | ||
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hey raynpelikoneet don't you think that "Hapahauli" sounds finnish? | ||
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ei hapahauli jumalauta see, it fits right in | ||
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On April 03 2013 03:26 Oatsmaster wrote: Look at the way he contested your claim/my claim that I got shot thing. Its so stupid only town could do it. Also its a gutread thing. Ive played with scum prp. and town prp. feels like town prp yo momma | ||
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On April 03 2013 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: The thing if if you was town you should definitely be okay killing me. i just don't want it to backfire so i'm hitting sinani. if you're scum then the game is for town anwyay, doesn't even matter if i'm lynched first. | ||
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if i were him i'd just have killed hapa after grack and then no one would know anything about the mason circle. i'd also have double stacked hapa yesterday with sinani instead of hitting oats. | ||
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the one where i say "i don't know who else should be scum" | ||
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#yolo #swag #ghostbusters #ggnore | ||
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tell me if i need to change that | ||
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depends if he's just killed early on but whatever gogo sinani | ||
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i think it should be a lot clearer how my role works. after the vanillas-with-one-shot claimed i still had no idea if i could give them a gun. like, i claimed my role, they claimed their role, i still had no idea if i could use my power on them. also i should probably not have shot on n1. or been wrong about everything. gg guys and thanks for hosting. | ||
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On April 04 2013 22:17 Dandel Ion wrote: They quite clearly claimed "VT with a oneshot power". Read the thread. that's why i call them "vanillas-with-one-shot" it's because they're vanilla townies with oneshot powers read the thread | ||
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