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I want to kill Rainbows this game... very badly. | ||
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On March 16 2013 14:22 WaveofShadow wrote: ..... /in? Lol jk I know I'm too experienced for a newbie game now so I sad; I really liked playing with the NMM 38 players. Hurry up and graduate to main games guys!! Wha...what? Now I'm sad. Now I have to hope geript signs up so I can shoot him. | ||
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On March 19 2013 11:11 cDgCorazon wrote: Harry Potter flavor incing, newbs <3 Yick. I wanna host a Mafia game just so I can pick fun flavor.... probably too newbie for that though lol. | ||
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On March 19 2013 23:02 marvellosity wrote: if you prod someone like me, you can co-host a game with me and you can do the flavour. Of course I am taking Newbie XL solely so I can make fat jokes. Lawl, fair enough. | ||
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On March 21 2013 21:20 Rainbows wrote: Notice: Day 1 I most likely will not have a ton of time to play ( spring break begins soon however). This is before role pms go out so its confirmed not alignment indicative :p. I'll be posting as much as possible going into the 22/23rd but no guarentees with my availibility during the d1 timeframe. Love you all. This time when I tunnel your day 1 suspicious play.. you will die. Yay! | ||
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I haven't read any of the books after Chamber of Secrets or Watched a movie sense Goblet of fire. Am I going to have to wikipedia Dumbledores Army to get most the flavor text? | ||
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On March 22 2013 12:35 nobodywonder wrote: wooooooooo ~ exciting game so far ##Vote: geript I want a nutter butter.  ##Vote: Geript I'm eating one right now... and I am making up for all the times I didn't get to do this last game. | ||
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On March 22 2013 12:47 nobodywonder wrote: Guys staph lurking don't be a Hufflepuff. LOL... BTW TheRavensName are you a Ravenclaw, you should a witty one I really hope so too. Their name is the coolest anyways... was anyone ever actually in ravenclaw or were they just around for decoration? | ||
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post and some US people may have been on the way to bed... would you have prefered we pressure voted someone who coul.comdn't post 10 minutws after day start? Our joke votes are just as useful [meaning not at all] and only slightly less random. | ||
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On March 22 2013 23:03 Frorgon wrote: What's wrong Raven? You guys trying to cover each other's ass? You eish. I'm just trying to do right by jarjar as omni did by me. | ||
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And that is not what I meant either jar. I meant most people by that I meant the one guy who attacked said post could find a wau to make that out as scummy but they shouldn't. Afterall your keeping your word about getting more active as time goes on. | ||
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On March 23 2013 00:07 Rainbows wrote: Sup dudes. I'd rather kill Ray right now. You never implied JarJar was hostile...but you were voting him and calling him out on a bunch of shit. Apparently you had a reason to believe he is scum (hostile, yes?). Then,you proceed to sheep his quote on Raven. What were you trying to accomplish here? Because it certainly doesn't seem town-motivated to be questioning a 'scum read' and then switching bases completely when he picks up something moderately scummy in someone else. ##Vote: Ray So, bro, tell me, what IS your stance on JarJar? Did your read on him suddenly evaporate? On March 22 2013 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: - Raven is saying "JarJar might be suspicious but might not be". What's the point of saying so? Someone is suspicious or not. Mafia tends to do that because they would already know they are accusing a townie and it's easier to retract from your accusation if you give yourself an out in the first place. - "Day 1 is a scary and uncertain period for those unsure how to get the ball rolling". Spreading fear. There is no point saying this kinda stuff if you are town. We need discussion and you are not promoting it here at all. You are doing the opposite. This is not townielike at all. I think TheRavensName is mafia. Something that your missing is the fact he calls me out for "Spreading Fear" by saying I'm wrong to say Day 1 is scary, but he himself is already doing that by calling out the only two people who have said something along those lines and also he just sort of drops the whole thing he had on Jar Jar who was saying the same thing. WIFOM Warning for coming far too early in the game + Show Spoiler + Per chance it was a set up, with Jarjar posting, Ray respnding, and then they team up on whoever takes the bait (me.) I also again did not meant to say he was supicious, but how his actions could be seen as suspicious. I would not defend him in that same post if I really thought he was supicious. In my opnion, I think Ray is just someone swinging out for the blood of an early myslynch and he is going to keep switching around till he finds one that works enough. Why did he drop Jar to focus on me instead of calling out more people who were lurking? This one gained traction first. So you dislikemy joke vote/ I'll change it for ya. Unvote: Geript Vote: Raynpelikoneet | ||
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On March 23 2013 00:30 Rainbows wrote: Dat Raven omgus and sheep vote. Sigh this is why I didn't want to make a case. If I had made it first it would have been descredited as me trying to save myself, and now I'm sheeping. Its exactly like the last game we played with accused people! YAY! | ||
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On March 23 2013 00:36 Rainbows wrote: Except those people flipped scum. . .? MLuneth omgus'd me so hard I lynched the him, made me happy. Raven, Your post is based on the fact that Ray called you out on some shit, and you defended said shit, but he still thinks you're scummy. I think it's an emotional vote. Actually NW and Meatless both had it happen to them, and NW only survive cause Arctic made himself look really bad when he came back after getting his blank pass. No not really. Actually, in hindsightI used against you last game, "Your super aggressive and I dislike that and find it scummy." Its too early to go after lurkers, as I think the first day should contain a 24 hour grace period and they have posted nothing to make themselves look bad. I already said that I think Jar is just like melast game and just kind of newbie and green, and hes shown that by running with the ball so far I'm giving him a null read. Really my only choices so far are Ray and Frorgon.Now that I think back to it and started re-looking over last game again Frorgron he lurked for the first chunk of day 1 last game anyways so I mean.. I'm just assuming he is at like work or something and only had time for that one post eventhough it bothers me (and I sad as much.) This leaves me with Ray and hes the case I attempted to strengthen. | ||
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On March 23 2013 00:42 Rainbows wrote: Except I don't entirely disagree with his points against you. The wish-washy statement was valid and true. You agree (sheep?) my point, and then just say that Ray is completely wrong in his reasoning and that makes him scum. Bad reasoning can come from either alignment, unfortunately. Raven, at this point i'm leaning slight town on you because I think your vote was cavalier and not based on solid reasoning other than what I presented. I tried to add to it... but theres only so much you can add when the filters are not even a full page yet. | ||
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On March 23 2013 05:56 nobodywonder wrote: @JarJar, thou shall quoteth well. you meant this post right? hmmm, so Raven, good sir, are you still for FoS,HoS, or Voting for JarJar? help us guide through Day 1 and get the ball rolling. + Show Spoiler + and honestly, Raven, we really don't needs star wars blasphemy in a harry potter world. ...what the hell does this post even mean? world unfair? and btw you never followed up for this explanation. I don't actually don't think Jarjar is all that suspicious, I was trying to defend him and not attack him but whatever, I've repeated that enough. Fr and Ray worry me a bit mor. As to what that means... I don't know what it means, I posted it on my way home from class so I don't think I even knew what it was whn I was writing it. I think I was trying to suggest the fact that Forgron was ignored was kind of suspicious, like he was trying to contribute to make it look like he was and it was just getting either ignored because it agreed, or because Ray and him are both scum. + Show Spoiler + On March 23 2013 05:42 nobodywonder wrote:hmm, so you read the previous newbie mafia... ok so what you think of the meta or far, any deviance, do you see any changes in the players in this game and the last game? btw you're kinda sheeping too, where is your scumhunting? youve just been hostile. scumhunt, man. dumbledore'll get mad at you. I think its simiilar. personally, but I don't want to really read too much into it.. but for that reason I'm starting to doubt my scum read on Ray. | ||
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On March 22 2013 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: If they are covering each other, why would JarJar point out Raven's suspicious actions? Is this what your refering to each other? This is hardly calling him out. Your disagreeing with his post and then just walking away from it, instead of asking him why does he think we are covering each other when Jarjar has called me suspicious. | ||
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On March 23 2013 06:39 nobodywonder wrote: @JarJar no, i did not take it out of context. that's what I mean. you had your suspicions, but never seemed to act upon til Ray posts. and you do so with a quote of his sentiment. so to me, it does look sheepy. @Raven, double negative in your post. anyways you seem ...off and perhaps nervous at this thing called scumhunting. why do frorgon and ray worry ypu? My bad on the Double Neg, sometimes I accidently hit the little mousepaddy thing on the laptop and it moves the cursor so when I reread it I pu the first don't in where it should have been and then forgot to remove the other one. I'm also getting a migrain, been sleeping between my posts, but thats not an excuse. Its the meta thing man. I basically went after Rainbows for the same reasons I went after Ray and I was completly wrong last game. So I'm nervous about accusing Ray even though he just seems to be swapping around randomly and changing his mind every 5 seconds on who he is convinced is scum.. even rainbows didn't go that far when he was being blood hungry. As to Frorgon, I'm worried about him getting a free pass by just kinda jumping onto issues someone else points out and then skirting away without saying anything. He seems a little scummy to me by trying to force a connection in his one brief post that is counteracted by the evidence so far. His case on Virtu seems more like a sheep onto rainbows and he seems sure of how a godfather acts when he hasn't played one with a godfather yet when we are not certain there even is one. I think he oculd have drawn Godfather himself personally. | ||
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On March 23 2013 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Isn't that exactly what i am asking there? But there is no follow up by you for the purpose of trying to get an answer out of him would be my point. | ||
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##vote: Frorgon I can see that it is unlikely I will get a lynch off of Ray, and I'm starting to view him more like an aggressive townie like rainbows the more this goes on. I'm siwtching my vote to Frorgon, basically because hes lurking pretty had and acting suspicious and non contributing when he actually is here (Via pushing connection cases off of nothing.) Truth be told, your reminding me of arctic, someone who would probably get away if he lurked a little more and only makes himself look bad whenever he posts. I haven't posted against V simply because I don't think hes scum. I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel like I should, but I don't feel like I should go after him if I don't feel hes an issue. | ||
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On March 24 2013 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: What the hell do you mean by V? Virtu. I have a bad habbit of forgetting peoples names as I type them, so I put their first letter and sometimes forget to go back and fix it when I'm done. | ||
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On March 24 2013 08:19 Krafla wrote: Crap, I haven't voted or read anything today (it's my birthday) and I'm just about to go to bed. Uhm I can vote for myself legally right so I don't get mod killed? I'll try and make it up tomorrow, sorry! ##Vote: Krafla The hell? | ||
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On March 24 2013 23:37 Rainbows wrote: Is night like no-post time or something? This lynch was deplorable, and it's absolutely horrendous to wake up to. I figured there would be two wagons that we could analyze but instead someone just got lynched with TWO votes... Anyway, I'm not going to waste time getting mad over this. Posting stuff after resolution, hopefully it can wake some of you guys up. Its generally ill advised to post till late in the night, so you can't give the mafia a new target. But if you do it at the last second they likely won't have time to change it and you can safely make whatever case you wish. | ||
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On March 25 2013 00:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: This way you also make it impossible to analyze why mafia hit the person they did. Good job there... Analyze what? It leads to WIFOM. You make a case against a townie and then they shoot you,that townie is now instant suspect number one. I'm just giving you the explinations I was given when I asked last time why no one was talking at night. | ||
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On March 25 2013 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: I still find TheRavensName the most suspicious person. Here is why: First, this post of his, which i based my case on him on D1: Then he tries to make me look bad. Look at this exchange: After this he just drops the issue without even saying if he thinks i'm wrong or if he agrees with me. The accusation in the first place is a lie as i have pointed out very clearly in the quotes. This masterpiece is from N1: Things to notice: - Raven does not give out his reads at the end of N1. Seems like he would already know he is not going to get night killed. - He is trying to stall the discussion. There is no reason why we should not scumhunt on night phases. I never said everyone should scream who is scum before the last hour, there are other things you can do. Like find out who is scum by you know, interacting with people.. --- Other than that, he has done very litte. The only person other than me he has called out (and tbh even talked about so that he reaches some kinda conclusion) is Frorgon. Who flipped green already. He has no real opinions on anyone other than me, and i have already proven them wrong. ##Vote: TheRavensName I think my point was valid. Look at it already, people are already taking WIFOM before we are even off the page of he flip. Besides that, I wasn't here between the action cut of and the end of the day post. And as to me not getting shot night one, that would have been a hillarius waste of a kill. You and JarJar have been going after me sense the start of day one, that is 2 out of the seven votes right there, instant majority lynch if they sneak in assuming your both not mafia yourselve (I'm asuming 2 or 3 mafia, either way it would be unpreventable.). As to reads, I am tending to believe that one of either Krafia or NW are scum.. simply because they seemed to just avoid the issue, NW looks especially bad sense Krafia could have easily just gotten himself killed if a few of us would have been around to switch out votes, though I didn't put mine onto him for the reason of it seemed like an incredibly dumb move against my scum read | ||
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On March 26 2013 02:31 nobodywonder wrote: well i got a feeling ##Vote: TheRavensName i got a feeling that today's gonna be a good lynch Raven killed Frogron. bolded words. strange. "I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel I should." what does this even mean? as a town mentality, it simply doesn't make any sense, why imply that virtu is town, and then mention no way to defend or should defend V. garbage filler post obvi. no need to mention virtu, and the explanation on frorgon is rather weak. lol he's suspicious, bad cases. nah, frorgon's cases weren't that bad, but at least he was explaining himself and I felt he was townie-ish. btw @Raven lehhsgo lynch geript and his nutter butter some other time aite ^^ "Evil Prevails when good men fail to act." You failed to act, his blood is as much on your hands as it is mine. Hell you should have been replaced after that for not even putting in a vote. | ||
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On March 23 2013 06:08 nobodywonder wrote: I think of things, what do you think on these things too? Well case on virtu is valid, virtu if town has terrible play, honestly I kind of want to curse virtu's play. hasn't done stuff besides defending and saying crazy stuff @Virtu are you town? haha at this pt, at least do a good job of pretending to be town. idk about the post about Jar Jar. seems somewhat like a soft defense of Raven, but honestly I can't read too much into it right now. need some more input from frogron, raven and jarjar This is really all NW has contributed. Outside of that he has Fosed Jarjar, tried to get me to vote onto jarjar, and has asked question about cases and stuff he has never commented on. But the part that urks me is he pushing the jarjar and me thing when at this point in time jarjar has denied it with great anger quite a few times. Makes me wonder if theres some WIFOM right there, if maybe jarjar is red and its a soft little hinted bus? But still.. I really dislike your play all in all NW, at least bad town play does something. ##Vote NobodyWonder] | ||
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On March 26 2013 04:52 TheRavensName wrote: This is really all NW has contributed. Outside of that he has Fosed Jarjar, tried to get me to vote onto jarjar, and has asked question about cases and stuff he has never commented on. But the part that urks me is he pushing the jarjar and me thing when at this point in time jarjar has denied it with great anger quite a few times. Makes me wonder if theres some WIFOM right there, if maybe jarjar is red and its a soft little hinted bus? But still.. I really dislike your play all in all NW, at least bad town play does something. ##Vote NobodyWonder] EBWOP: ##Vote NobodyWonder | ||
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On March 26 2013 06:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Of course i have been after him, because he is lying about stuff and i have proven it! Why is everyone ignoring that? He's also trying to stall the discussion, in the beginning of the game, and on N1. He is mafia and i don't understand why everyone just ignores that. Look at his defence. He doesn't even defend himself against my accusation, because he can't do it. Because i'm right! He's just whining about me and JarJar going after him from the beginning. Wtf? Ofc i will go after obv-scum like this from the beginning. I don't even know what the instant majority whine is about because i don't understand a single bit of that part. How can I defend myself when everytime I do its jsut called lies and ignored? Your trying so hard to tunnel me, I would almost assume you were an executioner if this game had it in the set up. | ||
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On March 26 2013 14:31 nobodywonder wrote: EBWOP I don't like it. as for Raven why so bitter? just get scumhunting, who cares if some guy is annoying you, if you're town, just scumhunt. anyways raven you're just so off from last game, that it is suspicious. I wold like to add to my case that you saying my play from previous game was so ratically different when no one else from that game is and trying to force the idea that I am scummy because of it, when last game I was viewed as scum, for being different then how I was in the pre game,quite some time until the actual scums were figured out. In actuality, this is exactly how I played during the end of that game. Other people would have commented by now, such as rainbows or krafia, if it was so different. If you think my play is so scummy just vote on me, don't afk through another lynch and don't hide behind this friendly advice giver guise. | ||
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On March 26 2013 23:43 Rainbows wrote: TRN is so town guys -.- Get the fuck off of him. Kill virtu / kill NW. Everyone keeps saying Raven's play is different and he's lying or whatever, but he's coming off super townie to me right now. I need to apologize for that staement. I forgot NW had voted for me about when I voted for him and only remembered when the vote tally was posted. | ||
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On March 27 2013 00:01 Krafla wrote: You're right. My vote is useless at the moment, especially now that JarJar has come in and thrown his vote down on virtu, splitting the votes perfectly evenly, looks like we're heading to another D1 situation and that the mafia has us over a barrel. Right then, I'm going to switch my vote ##Vote: TheRavensName I've looked at ray's arguments against TRN and I've looked at Rainbow's arguments against NW and I think ray's arguments are the best. I don't like that Rainbows is defending TRN so much, let him defend himself and I don't like the fact that Rainbows stated that virtu was his No 1 scum read on N1, yet he's voting for NW. Why are you voting for NW over Virtu Rainbows. What has changed your mind. We know how you feel on TRN, how do you choose between the other two? By that logic, you should be voting for Ray because he wanted to lynch you so badly and then let it go. This is a blatant sheep trying to blend in with the crowd Krafia, by both you and NW with passable reasons that are basically just enough to pretend to not just be saying :Cause I think we can get him lynched yay mislynching. | ||
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On March 27 2013 03:11 Krafla wrote: Right OK here's what I think, we've got two scum in nw and TRN. They've both voting for each other to cover and spread their votes. If there's another scum in the game I believe it's between virtu and JarJar. Here are my reads. Rainbows - I think you're town, but I think you're wrong to defend TRN. ray - I think you're town, you started off aggressive but you've calmed down and you seem to have the town's best interest at heart. JarJar - I'm on the fence with JarJar. You seem about as clueless as me when it comes to trying to make a reasonable read on anyone. nw - I don't like the fact he got away without voting in D1, where I put myself in a compromising position to avoid not voting. virtu - Same goes for virtu as nw however we've got the roleblock claim which no-one has commented on. I believe his claim partially because no one else claimed an RB. What is there in it for him to fake claim an RB. He wasn't the killer because we had a kill. Where does this leave us. His lack of posting is not helping us at all. Right, I'm going to go drive home so I'll be away for an hour or so... Oh I almost forgot TRN!! If you're town do me a favour and tell me who you cop checked on the first day and I'll move my vote off you. Wait... my defense as town is to fake a blue claim? You better lynch me now then, I am not that stupid. Your either the cop and are trying to bait me into fake claiming so you can call me on it sense out of 9 people there is no way I can be the cop, or your trying to find out if I am cop, lynch someone else and then make me useless the rest of the game. On the side note: Why would me and NW keep this voting thing up if we were both mafia? We have been both set to be lynched today, and could have swapped to virtu to make it so he would by lynched over us right now. I think the fact that jarjar changed so quickly to someone that it is extremly unlikely to get enough votes (No one is going to swap off me for Virtu as long as I am the confirmed lynch, especially assuming at least two of them are mafia, and the only person who can break the tie to save me is Virtu himself.) should be viewed as suspicious. I am willing to bet NW and Jarjar are both mafia, and this is Jar jar's way of causing a myslynch and saving NW. | ||
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On March 27 2013 02:45 JarJarDrinks wrote: I can't really decide between the 2 vote leaders (NW and TRN). I'm gonna reread the thread again and see if I can pick anything new up. If you couldn't decide why would you have voted for NW, and why didn't you do that before you swapped toVirtu? | ||
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On March 27 2013 03:23 TheRavensName wrote: Wait... my defense as town is to fake a blue claim? You better lynch me now then, I am not that stupid. Your either the cop and are trying to bait me into fake claiming so you can call me on it sense out of 9 people there is no way I can be the cop, or your trying to find out if I am cop, lynch someone else and then make me useless the rest of the game. On the side note: Why would me and NW keep this voting thing up if we were both mafia? We have been both set to be lynched today, and could have swapped to virtu to make it so he would by lynched over us right now. I think the fact that jarjar changed so quickly to someone that it is extremly unlikely to get enough votes (No one is going to swap off me for Virtu as long as I am the confirmed lynch, especially assuming at least two of them are mafia, and the only person who can break the tie to save me is Virtu himself.) should be viewed as suspicious. I am willing to bet NW and Jarjar are both mafia, and this is Jar jar's way of causing a myslynch and saving NW. I want to add something while I'm thinking about it: If your clueless at making reads, why did you vote for me? Because Ray said so? You didn't jump on me with Ray before andhis case hasn't changed much at all. Instead you took the time to vote for yourself, which is still being called QUESTIONABLE AT BEST AND SCUM AT A MUCH MORE LIKELY SHOT. | ||
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On March 27 2013 03:33 JarJarDrinks wrote: I made my case on NW. Ray then pointed out a flaw in it which I acknowledged. So while it doesn't negate my whole case against him, he's probably not my top suspect anymore. You also said you didn't think Virtu was scum either so.... Again this brings the question of why Virtu to the table. | ||
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On March 27 2013 04:24 Krafla wrote: Ooh I'm glad you said this! So you're definitely not a cop then. Excellent. Please explain your first post; I believe this is a scum slip right from the start. You throw down a fake blue breadcrumb, that you're a 1shot watcher, to give you something to come back to later in the game. But hang on a minute, this game doesn't have any 1-shot roles. Whoops, guess I can't carry on this charade, lets hope no one spots it. Read the role listing, we don't even have a watchman! And a watcher and a Cop are VASTLY diferent roles. Considering you didn't even realize you were bread crumbing last game when it was so obvious you were, you should know better. And if you THOUGHT I was Bread crumbing Watcher, why would you force me to claim it or die? If I claim it I am unable to use those powers for the rest of the game, and the first post also doesn't say there are any 1 shots I don't see why you would assume I was one. And if I was one shot, I wouldn't waste it day 1 when there is not enough evidence to figure anything out, I would wait till tonight with this nice sample of posts I have to work with. | ||
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On March 27 2013 04:27 Rainbows wrote: Krafla.. What is this i dont even.... And people wonder why i dont like raven cases. Rainbows, do you think this is a very poor town play from Krafia combined with him voting himself, or is this scum play trying to bait out a blue? | ||
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On March 27 2013 04:44 Rainbows wrote: Honestly Raven, i have no fucking clue. A town being this stupid is probably more likely than scum flailing his arms around trying to influence the lynch. Like, its just so.... Bad.... I was thinkng so too but... then why wasn't I targeted at all? If he was sure I breadcrumbed day 1... wouldn't he have been pushing my shot or roleblocking? I was a victim of neither. Maybe I'm putting too much faith in Krafia but I still am leaning towards NW or Jarjar personally. | ||
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On March 27 2013 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, i'm going out for some time. I'm not sure if i can get back before the deadline. I will stick with my vote on Raven. I don't think they are both scum with NW, i just feel like Raven is more likely to be mafia than NW. I would be okay with lynching virtu as well. He's fucking useless. So even with all thats just gone on, I'm still the scummiest person here? You are really going to be disapointed that you put the town in Lynch or lose mode... | ||
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On March 22 2013 17:09 nobodywonder wrote: time to get it rollin' then JarJar or mesa annoyed by you. mesa angry. mesa point finger of suspicion on JarJarDrinks ##FoS: JarJarDrinks This is one of NW's only post day one that doesn't contain something about EmmaWatson or Geript. The other one is him calling out Jarjar's sheeping vote and upgrading to a hand of suspicion, Outside of this he calls out mine and Jarjar's logic a few times and comments that Virtu is infact suspicious to him but doesn't even vote. Next day: On March 26 2013 02:14 nobodywonder wrote: ^ woo~ excitement. yee about to get lynched. maybe i can find scum now hopefully. about the non-vote, i derped hard. I would have voted virtu, but I was out and I forgot... On March 26 2013 02:31 nobodywonder wrote: well i got a feeling ##Vote: TheRavensName i got a feeling that today's gonna be a good lynch Raven killed Frogron. bolded words. strange. "I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel I should." what does this even mean? as a town mentality, it simply doesn't make any sense, why imply that virtu is town, and then mention no way to defend or should defend V. garbage filler post obvi. no need to mention virtu, and the explanation on frorgon is rather weak. lol he's suspicious, bad cases. nah, frorgon's cases weren't that bad, but at least he was explaining himself and I felt he was townie-ish. btw @Raven lehhsgo lynch geript and his nutter butter some other time aite ^^ I'm not sure what happened here but somehow I' m the one that killed Froron as opposed to the man who didn't vote, and now hes not voting for his suspicion? If he would have Virtu would be dead right now and Frorgon would be alive. But then he would have to have been responsable for killing someone, and apparently if hes not going to be MODKILLED for filure to vote when the rules say otherwise, why place suspicion upon himself if the Virtu lynch fails? REally if nothing else he should be lynched today for this reason alone. But apparently people are willing to let this go.. On March 27 2013 03:35 nobodywonder wrote: so JarJar, who is your top scumread of an active poster? a vote on virtu, just doesnt cut right now since its rather useless at this point. We can always switch votes and get virtu later today if unnecessary. And this, to me is the nail in the coffin. What does this post say? "I don't want to vote for my scum read right now, the one I kinda burried that I am against, but I would totally switch if the Raven lynch falls through and I need to save myself. | ||
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On March 27 2013 07:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: You straight out lied about me questioning Frorgon. You could have done a lot more, i even told you that "the best way to defend yourself is to find us scum". You have not been interested in finding scum in the latter part of D1 and on D2. Whenever you question other people it's because someone has said something about you. It's fucking scummy. NW at least seems to be trying sometimes. The man didn't even vote Day 1.. and hes trying? Look at his filter. He has about 26 posts total if I counted right, and 10 of them invovle flavor or geript. | ||
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On March 27 2013 07:59 nobodywonder wrote: But don't forget TRN, you joined my quest against the nefarious nutter butter. Speaking of contributions, yes I do realize I screwed up with not voting and I don't have that many posts, but still I'm trying to be more active to make up for tomorrow. Still that virtu guy hasn't contributed at all, if you want to talk about contributions. And in response to you What nail in the coffin? I may switch to virtu, but as the thread going, it's rather useless at this point, cuz the man hasn't posted. It's rather useless for discussion and learning about agendas. Its a nail because you are basically saying hes scummy and worth voting but not worth it at the same time. Yeaits not worth it cause he hasn't posted but then why even address it? At this point if h comes back and posts so he cant get mod killed, is he even worth lynching then if you think I'm scum? Likely no, so why bring it up? And I want to hear why you didn't vote for him day 1 if he was your read. | ||
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On March 27 2013 09:31 Rainbows wrote: RAYS GOT ALL THE ANSWERS GUYS, HE JUST KNOWS! FANCY THAT When I say that I get in trouble... | ||
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On March 27 2013 10:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, we go after you or Rainbows. By that logic if I had gotten lynched and flipped green, you'd be guilty then? | ||
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On March 27 2013 10:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, because i'm town after all. And i don't think you're gonna flip town. I would hate to build up the excitement for three days just for you to be wrong but.... man are you going to be disapointed. Fitting it will happen on my birthday. I will consder your tears of sadness about being wrong my gift. | ||
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On March 27 2013 10:45 nobodywonder wrote: My goodbye post: welp That is an anticlimatic goodbye post. I had a good idea for mine. | ||
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On March 27 2013 11:13 JarJarDrinks wrote: So me or ray get hit tonight obv. Maybe they go after Virtu instead but I think they leave him alone since he seems to have gone inactive. If there's a townie among Rainbows/Raven/Krafla then they surely aren't gonna go after him since the lynch is gonna come from this group. So in short: any roleblocker should choose from Rainbows/Raven/Krafla. Any Healer should choose from Me/Ray/Virtu. Well given how high the association case between me and Rainbows is, I doubt either of us are getting shot. I really dislike you think we should waste a healer on freaken Virtu. | ||
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On March 27 2013 21:00 JarJarDrinks wrote: Who's that? I would gyess me and rainbows sense we pushed the lynch. | ||
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On March 28 2013 04:31 JarJarDrinks wrote: Because if we stop an attack w/ a heal or roleblock. We can still win a tie tomorrow if we vote fast enough. I know that seems unlikely w/ Virtu as one of the townies, but that would be a reason the game could still be going on w/ 3 mafia. The op very specifically says the mafia instant win if they tie the number of townies. So it wouldn't matter if we have a medic that could save. | ||
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On March 28 2013 06:15 TheRavensName wrote: The op very specifically says the mafia instant win if they tie the number of townies. So it wouldn't matter if we have a medic that could save. Alright I was wrong. But I think if its 3 mafia its considered inevitable because they could all instant vote the same person and then we lose for not being able to disenseminate who is the mafia as fast as they can figure out who isn't. | ||
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On March 28 2013 10:03 JarJarDrinks wrote: ##Vote: TheRavensName Give me a case or something man... I need SOMETHING to work with. On March 23 2013 05:30 JarJarDrinks wrote: I feel like the reason for that should be obvious. Scum doesn't want to be responsible for lynching a townie but he still wants a townie lynched So basically he points out that I'm suspicious and hostile hoping to maybe influence some people and get me lynched. Then when I turn up green, he doesn't look suspicious because he "defended" me and can go after one of the people that voted for me. I would think that the best result for mafia is getting a townie lynched with the least amount of scum voting for that person. And notice that he still left himself an out so he could go back to voting for me if the situation required it. He said he sees "no reason to punish it till after other people show up." The new bolded parts seem to point as much to Jarjar's voting style as it does mine. He changed around quite a bit as soon as a new person was chosen to be lynched. For example he went off me and onto frorgon as soon as I was declared the lynch, and on day two he went off NW when he was unavoidably lynched and moved to each of the other vote targets that didn't have any votes on them, which is a great strategy because it would still have gotten NW or me lynched without him having to commit to the final death. On March 24 2013 10:04 cDgCorazon wrote: Night 1 Final Vote Count Frorgon: (2) JarJarDrinks, TheRavensName Krafla (2): Krafla, Raynpelikoneet TheRavensName (1): Frorgon, Virtu (1): Rainbows, Rainbows (1): Fishgle JarJarDrinks (0): Raynpelikoneet (0): Not Voting: (2) Virtu, Nobodywonder On March 27 2013 10:00 cDgCorazon wrote: [Center]Night 2 Final Vote Count: Nobodywonder (3): TheRavensName, Rainbows, Krafla TheRavensName (3): Raynpelikoneet, NobodyWonder, JarJarDrinks, Krafla (1): Virtu (0): Not Voting (1): Virtu Nobodywonder wins the tiebreaker due to getting 3 votes first [G]If everyones required to vote, why has Virtu been allowed to live for TWO DAYS without a modkill or replacement? [/g]Serriously it makes it so unfair to figure out who is who cause it seems like hes being allowed to live either to prevent a mafia instant win or to prevent there only being one mafia player and we have nothing to analyze off him to figure out which is which I think we have two possibilities... Either the scum is Virtu and Rainbows, in which case brilliantly done Rainbows for managing to win basically alone at this rate, or Jarjar is one of the scum... and I still don't know if hes working with Rainbows or Virtu... I don't think its Ray because hes been focusing on me for so long and none of the night kills really paint against me the way they should be and most of them are people that didn't like me anyways. This is my little case against Jarjar, I will refrain from voting until I look at everyone elses filter. | ||
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I'm having a hard time choosing between Ray and Rainbows. Rainbows has spent so much time defending me and would have easily been able to jump me and get me lynched without being suspicious at all... but then again this is so WIFOM, because he played with me last game and knew my whole logic for not killing off Omni when he got very suspicious for a lot of people was that he had been sticking by me when he could have tossed me under and got me killed no problem. I also can't get over how he thought Virtu was the best lynch possible to being whatever just some lurking guy.+ Show Spoiler + On March 23 2013 00:53 Rainbows wrote: Holy crap you're scum. ##Unvote ##Vote: Virtu On March 23 2013 22:18 Rainbows wrote: Virtu best lynch USA This is virtu's first real post. I ask myself: what is he trying to accomplish here? Instead of commenting on the happenings in the thread, it is simply speaking in generalities. Town should be doing this, we should be generating discussion this way. Guys, obviously I'm pro-town if I'm suggesting we do these pro-town things but not actually do them. How does this post further towns agenda of finding scum? It doesn't. It's a pretty generic post that serves no real purpose on than for people to go "Ahh! Yes! This fine TLer right here, he is advocating pro-town things!" Here's the post that really caught my attention: At this point in time, I had just made a post on Ray and voted him. Virtu steps in a page later and simply casts his 'suspicion' upon him. Why is this post scummy? Because virtu is not attempting to find scum on his own. . . he is content at using my post on Ray in order to justify his 'read'. Town want to search all possible avenues, but apparently the only thing that has caught his attention is something I earlier put in bold. There was plenty of other things scummy in the thread at the time that nobody mentioned (see: frogron question). Why is virtu not trying to find scum himself? And he hasn't all game long. I won't comment on the Godfather incident. What the hell is this post trying to say? So we should not go after lurkers (easy target) but we should definitely notice they aren't doing shit! So yeah guys, be suspect of lurkers right now. Pretty paramount that we notice those lurkers aren't posting, because, you know, that gets us places. virtu's defence Basically flails his arms at me and calls me stupid, which made me giggle on the inside. Firstly, the comparison between his post and AD's post is concrete, dispute that all you want. Was a scummy post yo. In reference to the bolded, wtf? So you should post to agree / disagree and act all scummy as hell? IF THIS IS YOUR PHILOSOPHY ON PLAYING TOWN, PLEASE LEAVE SIR. virtu refuses to find scum on his own. AT ALL! I also thought his response to the Fishgle post was interesting. But that's for another day. Synopsis: - virtu posts paragraphs that do nothing to further towns agenda. - virtu doesn't hunt scum all game, and refuses to. - virtu openly sheeps with zero original thinking, but we should be suspect of lurkers. virtu best lynch right now, gonna be flippin' scum all over this bitch. On March 27 2013 02:46 Rainbows wrote: If virtu doesnt post or just pulls a krafla i will vote him in seconds. I'll be more than happy to take full credit for lynching that dude. Why have you never voted Virtu Rainbows? Why? Hes been your scum read the entire game and you could have went after him day 2... there were TWO votes on him, and you would have put him with NW and Me. He has also been connected to each of the Nightkills by saying they would be kinda eh lynches but were still stupid the day before, (He bashed Fringle, and krafia but said they would be kinda yick lynches.) I need a response on this case ASAP Rainbows, as well as Feedback on both the lynch yesterday and the night kill. | ||
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On March 28 2013 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: EBWOP: Above question is to everyone else too. I can't be much online today. I might make a post late tonight if i have enough time to reread all filters and actually think about stuff. I really didn't think Krafla would die, that threw me a bit off. What about you Ray? What do you see? and TBH, Krafia makes the most sense. He was brushed off as a stupid townie, the only person more then one has confirmed town. Virtu has been lurking the longest out of everyone so hes a waste of a kill because hes such a mystery, Jarjar and you have been gunning for me for a while so killing me is a poor choice, and Rainbows is just as suspicious so killing him makes no sense either.TBH now that Virtu is back I'm tempted to switch my vote to him. | ||
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On March 28 2013 22:46 JarJarDrinks wrote: This statement only makes sense coming from someone that knows that Ray and I are both town. Doesn't matter if you are both town, only one of you is, or if Rainbows and Virtu are the towns. Killing me makes it so you two will vote elsewhere, possibly on the scum if it is not you two. TBH out of everyone left, I think Ray is least likely to be scum. | ||
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On March 28 2013 22:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Raven: I see you calling everyone but virtu scum without no reasoning. Please explain this without the double negative that is aggrivating my head. | ||
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I explained my reasoning. I think rainbows is right about this confirmation bias you got going. | ||
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On March 28 2013 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Elaborate please. How is there reasoning and how are you not calling us all mafia? I posted cases on Jarjar and Rainbows, your more tehn welcomed to read them I didn't post one Virtu cause hes too difficult and I think a flip would tell us more, and I actually called you town. Side question, did anyone get roleblocked? That would tell us alot about virtu. | ||
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On March 23 2013 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't understand why Frorgon thinks Raven and JarJar are both scum given what Raven said. First of all, you can't base JarJar's alignment on what Raven says about him. It only gives us clues about Raven's alignment. It's not uncommon for mafia to soft/hard defend townies to make them look worse in case the mafia guy flips. Second of all, do not make connection cases pre-flip, that's just dumb. So in my eyes Frorgon looks worse. This is something that stands out to me when I look at your filter ray that I would like explained. Why have you not called out Rainbow as scummy, and I mean REALLY called him out, for defending me so hard/ Your whole early case was based on me defending Jarjar... but Rainbows gets a free pass? Not only that, outside of addressing me, you have not made very many comments at rainbows at all. I thnk theres a good chance that if Rainbows flips red, your the other red. You guys are avoiding making cases against the same people, which is rather easy sense your focused on Frorgon, Krafia, and Me, while Rainbows went after virtu, Nobodywonder, ad Jarjar... who you have defended. | ||
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On March 29 2013 03:33 Rainbows wrote: Sorry guise working alllll the days right now At a computer soon. Good news is that judging from recent events ive pinned the scumteam. All will be clear soon enough. Lovely cause it seems your the victim of note right now. | ||
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##Vote: JarjarDrinks Dear god Rainbows you scared me. I was almost certain Virtu was going to be our only blue role and that it would be you and Ray scum team with Ray tunneling me while you focused on other people. The more I thought about my logic on Ray being town, the less it made sense. (At this point if its a fake blue claim, bravo... We are kind of forced to act on it at this point.) | ||
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On March 29 2013 08:21 JarJarDrinks wrote: What about if Raven is the GF? How come that's not a possibility? Virtu, the reason he said that you might be the GF is he left himself an out just in case you counterclaimed Ron. There's absolutely no reason for that sentence not to be: "There is only one flaw in my logic... if virtu or Raven is the GF..." I guess there's no reason not claim now since the game is about to be won or lost based on this lynch. I'm Hermione Granger . I dare you to counterclaim Raven. You have done, a shitty shitty job of protecting people then. | ||
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On March 29 2013 08:13 Rainbows wrote: Expect either a shitstorm or a hard concede. Raven, I've never played as scum but I don't think I'd defend you like that if I were red, ever. The object of the game is to lynch opposing faction not defend them T.T. Why did you think I was scum, anyway? I thought I was pretty obviously town. I sort of elaborated on it. Truth be told I'm not convinced your NOT scum at this point either... but if your willing to blue claim at this point I don't care. I know Ray and Jarjar can't be blues as the way ray has been tunneling me says he would have checked me first, and jarjar has given no hint of thinking anyone but ray is town. So if Virtu isn't going to dispute it I won't either. However, the thing that pinged at the back of my mind is that you've played with me before. You would know from the previous game that I didn't go on the Omni wagon when it started because he was defending me so hard it didn't make sense to me he would do so if scum, so I thought it was possible you would pull that here. In which case you and Ray, who I thought was most likely to be scum if you were and the only option if Jarjar was, could alternate between playing hard defense without it being challenged with more attacks on me, and you gong after other people for him which would only risk exposing one of you, plus it was stated a few times the night kills poisioned the opinion on you two the most, and this was said by both you and ray almost immediatly. TBH, Jarjar and Ray were my original reads... but I kind of brushed Ray off because, why waste all his time tunneling me? It could easily be costing him lynches. However, it always bothered me how easily he was willing to change over small things before going back to them, I kind of pushed them aside. Jarjar was a null/green read before last night phase actually. The way he jumped off the NW lynch to force a tie and voted around when he could look less guilty for a myslynched rub me really wrong. | ||
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On March 29 2013 08:32 Rainbows wrote: This is my second game soooo... 1 or 2 right? Its 3 total. So yea, one more. I think I might have 1 more left sense my first one was all the way back at Newbie Mini Mafia 9? Something like that and I was subbed in the day before the game ended. Anyways: Theres only one scenario where Jarjar is medic and Rainbows is cop, because we can not have a godfather and no cop, and that would be Rey and Virtu... with virtu faking his RB claims on himself. But if thats the case, why are we not lynching Rey? I mean... I'm cool either way but still. | ||
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On March 29 2013 08:32 Rainbows wrote: I'm not down with all this meta stuff anyway, seems kinda weird to me. Oh its a horrible horrible thing. But its something you think about when your playing someone more then once. TBH, I don't think this was a very good game wether mafia wins by you faking this claim, or we win, or they win anyways cause its rey and virtu. It was.. just not a fun game. I hope the next one is better. I also hope I get to have something other then x3 VT, and I really want SK or Mob. | ||
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On March 29 2013 08:36 Rainbows wrote: Unless you're trying to take the credit for my lynch -.- No no. Put it back on jarjar. His claim is enough to make me want him dead, especially sense hes specificall challenging me. If he was town he would be challenging your claim on that logic. Who was your other check by the way? | ||
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On March 29 2013 08:37 Rainbows wrote: Raven I think you just didn't like it because you got attacked the entire game by some scummer who was ignorant, etc. I think I understand why NW lurked so much last game until the last day. Its hard to do anything cause I pushed a few cases that didn't seem to go anywhere, got stuck with the victim lynches, and probably shot myself in the foot with NW this game. So you start to get scared about shit what if this case is the one that gets me killed and nets the town one less when were already down a couple with no success. Ontop of that, I don't like only 9 people. Its a little too small for my taste, and alot of the games I keep browsing over, (Like the Game.) are all big ones, which are much more fun. Theres more to analyze and ways to judge peoples actions. This was HEy there are two wagons going, which do you like better? | ||
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On March 29 2013 08:43 Rainbows wrote: I agree. The amount of inactivity was totally infuriating to say the least. I really want to get into a big big game with like 5-6 scum. Now that's epic. In such a small game things seem to get personal pretty quickly. Maybe not even liek 5 or 6 but the last game we did was pretty decent too, so I would be okay with like 3 or 4. | ||
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On March 29 2013 08:46 Rainbows wrote: Lol Raven, I really want to roll scum with you. You can bus me if you want :D See thats how you can tell I'm not a God Father. I LOVE to bus people like day 2. Especially in a small game like this where your unlikely to have many power roles and your almost certain to get away with it because you only need a small amount of town cred. You bus the RBer if there isn't another one, you shoot someone, bury someone, and then yay:You win cause no one can tell if its you or not. Though TBH, this game I would have probably taken the bussing because of how it was written against me. | ||
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On March 29 2013 09:03 virtu wrote: TRN, Rainbows' claim is far more belivable for 2 reasons, one being that his soft defense of you turned into a hard defense after his check of you, and secondly because he stopped tunneling me HARD when he checked me. If Rainbows is Scum he deserves the win, I think our best shot as Town is to side with him and stick it out. Also i'd prefer to kill JarJar after that claim to be honest, It stinks of fakeclaim (no crumbs, doesn't specify his targets each night, doesn't aim the claim at rainbows but at TRN). Also Also, I kinda think the reason scum left Rainbows alive is because of how hard he has tunneled me this game, I imagine scum thought it easy to jump on a Rainbows' fuelled wagon on me lategame to secure a victory (also the reason why they left me alive, that and why shoot someone who is useless to town). Yea but Either way why leave rainbows out of the three of us? Krafia was going to vote for me, or atleast I think he was and I think he died cause Jarjar wasn't sure if he was going after me or him. If they shoot either you or rainbows, they got krafia to 3 man it. | ||
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On March 29 2013 09:17 Rainbows wrote: And how nobody saw you as town, I have no idea. Well look at who didn't see me as town: Krafia and NW (Who were kind of lazy and made dumb and questionable decisions in both the games we've played with them.) and the two scum players. | ||
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On March 29 2013 09:20 Rainbows wrote: I really think they kept me alive to preserve the raven / rainbows scumteam theory, yes? Killed krafla to frame us. ID have killed you, hoped Virtu was stupid or not showing up, and pushed me. Or I'd have pushed Virtu see what happens. | ||
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On March 29 2013 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote: Have I given any reason not to believe it? How in the world could I prove it? Why would I have claimed it before? I don't get how giving out who I targetted could help prove anything but sure I guess. I targetted Ray and Virtu. Well it proved if you are medic... you picked the worst person to pretend to doctor night 2. Should have said Ray again. Virtu doesn't make sense with how late in the game it is. | ||
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On March 29 2013 11:58 JarJarDrinks wrote: So then why did you wait almost a whole day to claim? It was his second post of the day! | ||
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On March 29 2013 12:04 JarJarDrinks wrote: Oh trust me, I would have protected Ray again but I can't target the same person 2 nights in a row. I wasn't crazy about picking Virtu but I had the rest of u guys as likely scum. He was what was left. Oh yes that convenient little list. Why include yourself if your the medic? Or better yet: Why Virtu? He makes no sense at all. So why not include the one maybe townie on your list in Krafia? | ||
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On March 29 2013 12:15 JarJarDrinks wrote: Is that a real question? Obviously to keep myself alive. It worked pretty well since it forced you guys to kill one of my suspected scummies. Yea why would we kill the one guy we both agree is town and you think is scum? Thats easy enough to manipulate against. Killing you or ray is much better for us. | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's pretty damn bad assumption right there. There is no way mafia has both GF and roleblocker. And if that was true why the fuck would we not use our roleblock and have the GF instead claim being roleblocked? That's like the stupidest thing to do when you can actually prevent roles from acting instead. Heh, fair point. However, I don't think there is a godfather, or if there is it an't virtu. There is no reason for Virtu to fake being role blocked when hes gotten away with lurking and hasn't bread crumbed a power role for us or fake claimed it. I still find the cop case way better then the medic case. Krafia was the OBVIOUS hit last night, and considering Virtu afked the entire game hes easy to bandwagon onto as only coming back for red posts, he'd have been a much less useful save compared to Krafia, who had been active and there was some certainty that he would be here today, where as virtu thats a gamble that just happened to pay off. Also Jarjar, I don't like how you tried to pressure Krafia into revealing who he was going to go after during the night phase, points too much to trying to frame me by getting him to admit it, or getting too scared to risk him ending up voting for you. These reasons are why my vote is staying on you. | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:33 virtu wrote: EBWOP: For the record, I don't think TRN has been particularly townie looking either, but I feel I have no choice but to trust Rainbows claim over JarJar's. Either i'm right and ray/JarJar are scum, or i'm wrong and Rainbows/TRN are scum. It's as simple as that. You hurt my feelings Virtu. | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's distracting only if you don't make conclusions from your questions. I think i have been clear to offer my thoughts after people have answered me - i mean, i ask question, they answer, i make conclusions from the answers and point them out in thread. My reason behind the question is this. If you are town you can easily come up with any possible scum combos assuming Rainbows/JarJar are both telling the truth and have a reasonable answer (if you think it's possible or not). If you are mafia it's much harder because you do not want to out your scumbuddy and you want to lynch a townie this phase and other players might see the flaws in your logic. That's what i was after. Now it's irrelevant becauase you dodged the question already and threw the ball back at me by discrediting my playstyle. Because your play style has worked out so well so far... Lets Tunnel Raven and let some myslynches happen while I push another myslynch cause I don't think you should scum hunt more then one person at a time! | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:52 JarJarDrinks wrote: You're looking @ things through a vacuum. Read the entire day and see how things went down and you'll see how my votes made sense: I voted for NW after making what I thought was a decent case. The case kinda fell apart as the day went on cause it relied on 2 things: - that Fishgle was a likely lynch candidate for the day which Ray pointed out to me that the Fishgle suspicion mostly occured after the action deadline - that Ray and Rainbows were both town. As the day went on, Rainbows started looking scummier and scummier. So I moved off of NW and on to you. Surely you can't blame me there right? You hadn't voted/posted/done anything. And I wanted to get you to respond. So then w/ like an hour left in the day Krafla makes one of the scummier posts I've seen. After having his vote on raven for a while, he decides to listen to a raging Rainbows (who I'm already reading as scum @ this point) and change his vote to NW stating that if he flips town, he'll know who the scum team is. So then I switched to Raven @ the end of the day because thats where two votes were and I was pretty sure NW was town @ that point. I knew it was unlikely to do anything since it only tied it, but maybe someone would switch or maybe you'd show up last minute. Like I said, it was unlikely to help, but there was literally no reason not to switch @ that point. So maybe me switching my vote around around a bunch wasn't that great in hindsight. But it all made sense @ the time. And no matter what happened. Nothing makes Rainbows cop claim look legit whatsoever. Like I get that this is a noob game, but a cop investigating to confirm his town read is the dumbest thing imaginable. Virtu, say I'm a bad townie all you want. But you're saying that you believe a cop would actually investigate to confirm town. How can you even consider that to be true? I don't understand why you talk like the way you do... your acting like you've been playing mafia for the longest time ever, this account is brand new. Cops always check the people alot of people say are scummy and they think are town, you don't want to get caught defending a guy who is a scum and you could have found out but chose not to. If nothing else, you need to do it so you can role claim to prevent a myslynch if its possible and pray that a medic of jailer will save you. | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can't lynch more than one scum in a day and you have been obv-scum from the beginning. There is no reason for me to vote for anyone else. And saying i have not been fighting against the other lynches is just bullshit. I have been very clearly trying to lynch you from D1 because you are scum, and besides that i have trying to figure out who is another person who is mafia. I found that out today. You have not. You've had tunnel vision this whole game. Go back and look at most your questions. Most of them involve asking people what they think of ME. You have made no effort to find anyone else who even MIGHT be scum. All you do is focus on me and pray to god that it works. Ray, you can't just focus on one person even if you can only lynch one. You have to change around, because focusing on one person, whether they are scum or not, makes you miss opportunities to confirm or deny other people on reasons other then their opinion of me, because when you turn up a myslynch of me... your hunting towards me was all useless, because all it tells you how many people bought your two day long case, and how many people thought it was stupid and were right. Its poor town play either way. | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: You just called me town. :D No. I'm speaking to you as if you are town. My votes not on you anyways, its on Jarjar. If you are town, and you are right about rainbow's cop claim, I'm talking to you in a way I hope helps you next time you play mafia. Because, if rainbow's claim is a lie, which I have expressed some concerns about (which is way too risky this late in if I was on a mafia team with rainbows to risk blowing this up in our face when this is an all in gamble.), you need to know how you could have hunted better, maybe found out if rainbows was scum instead of just hoping I was. | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: The game blew up on your face already. That's why Rainbows had to fakeclaim. There was no way anyone besides you/Rainbows was gonna get lynched on D3 without the claim and when you flip red it would confim the other one red. I like how day 3 has turned into a shouting match as opposed to an evidence hunt Ray. Hell day 2 was that way too. See when your evidence on a case is just screaming the same thing over and over and over again, its time to move onto another case. | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:19 JarJarDrinks wrote: It's my first game on TL. I've played a bit elsewhere but the roles were very different. But I am capable of reading and the cop role here is to catch bad guys. If a cop investigates someone and expects them to flip green then he's playing it wrong. @Virtu like I said, you may think I played bad as a townie. But (assuming you're the townie) the game is going to be decided by you. And believing Rainbows cop claim is just so much worse than bad play you can accuse me of. No a cop's job is that of a cops in the real world. To prove GUILT or INNOCENCE. You should be able to do both for the reasons I stated, if your only going after the guilty then your stupid. You have to prove innocence just as much as guilt. This tells me you don't know how to play a cop, and makes me very glad you didn't roll it. | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:39 JarJarDrinks wrote: I mean, how is that not a slam dunk? What other reason could he have for suggesting that you could be the godfather but not suggesting that Raven could? Because Virtu being GF makes more sense, he has lurked the entire game and claimed rb the entire night, which makes it unlikely there is a RBer and a GF, so him faking makes more sense. Also, I think I've demonstrated quite clearly the play of a townie trying to keep you guys from myslynching me. On a side note I want to ask you a question jarjar: Lets say your the cop. Would you only check me and rainbows? You would just... blindly assume that Ray is a townie because hes been trying to get me killed and protected you? When you have the power to check him, and make sure hes not setting you up to take the fall with him if he gets lynched? | ||
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On March 30 2013 02:18 JarJarDrinks wrote: Who do you think I should have targetted N1 and N2? Ray and then Krafia. Virtu was not in any danger because if nothing else there would be hope he was modkilled. Yep. I don't you'd need more than a basic understanding of how the game works to see that Rainbows claim was BS. I'm sorry. Tell me again how not voting or posting for a week is the right way to play the game. Ok, I guess I can't respond to you when you're just making stuff up that never happened. Like geez, it really sucks when people play the game and don't contribute for days on end, but you'd hope they actually read the thread. Like this is an outright lie. Raven never voted for me prior to my vote for him. In fact my vote for him was because he defended me. Please go back and reread the thread because its frustrating talking to someone that has no clue what actually happened in the game. So why isn't Ray suspicious when he was defending you? | ||
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On March 30 2013 12:18 Rainbows wrote: Essentially I knew there had to be one blue. I knew it wasn't you. Thought it was virtu... was actually expecting him to counterclaim and it would have been even easier I think. Could have played normally for the win, but hey, why bother that's no fun :p If jarjars medic claim wasn't so bad... like I said I'd have it on Ray. And then I'd have voted you next day. | ||
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On March 30 2013 11:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: That forum is really really inactive. It's like 50% of people posting once or twice per phase and others more. Last game (13 ppl) we had there was as much posts for the whole game than this game had on N1. So.... its like this game was until night 2? | ||
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On March 30 2013 12:25 Rainbows wrote: I also feel like the claim was good because JarJar never bothered to claim first thing day 3. I was like 'is there no blue???' because I was just waiting for the blue claim. So I just did it, and gave you guys 24 hours to think about it. I knew the inevitable counterclaim would look bad because i did it first and it was decent, fortunately it was a trainwreck of bad. I imagined virtu being cop and then going 'yeah guys, 2 nights RB'd idk what you want' haha I shoulda been thinking when you were talking about playing scum... but by that point I had already reached the point of literarly wanting this game over so we can start a new one. I dislike jarjar anyways. | ||
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On March 30 2013 12:32 Rainbows wrote: /hug Raven I see you got a sig for me lol. | ||
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This was what I wrote up for your lynch, and then you guys killed off NW =( Night 3 (Who needs pictures) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dumbledore’s Army was having its’ weekly meeting inside the room of requirement on a chilly December morning. The students had gotten the day off before their pre-Christmas exams to relax and study. The atmosphere was one of fear, since no one had forgotten what had happened to their friends Fishgle and Frorgon. They were afraid that there was a Slytherin spying on them. That would be catastrophic as the Slytherins would know their plans and be one step ahead of them in the battle for Hogwarts. At the end of the meeting, Corazón led the group out of the Room of Requirement, but paused when he saw a shadow running away from the entrance. Corazón used the leg-lock curse to keep him from escaping, and ran over to the student who had fallen on the group. When he picked the student up, he recognized TheRavensName looking back at him. “Please don’t jinx me!” he pleaded. “Why are you here?” Corazón asked, his wand at the ready. “I’m here because I thought this is where you guys were meeting. I forgot where the Room of Requirement was, and I haven’t been to a meeting in weeks! Come on dude, I’m a Ravenclaw! I still wear my badge even though it means the risk of me being attacked! My name has ‘Raven’ in it!” TheRavensName pleaded. “What’s 3+5?” Corazón asked quickly. “8. It’s still 8.” TheRavensName responded quickly. Corazón rolled his eyes. “Dammit, it has to be 8” he thought to himself. “Come on, this is how you will prove to me that you are a Ravenclaw” with that, he dragged TheRavensName to the portrait that guarded the Ravenclaw Common Room. He stopped in front of the door and unlocked TheRavensName’s legs, allowing him to stand on his feet. “If you can answer the question and get in, you are obviously Ravenclaw. If you can’t you are obviously Slytherin” Corazón said calmly. “Have a go.” TheRavensName walked up to the portrait. The portrait looked at him and said, “You know the drill. Here is your question: “If someone acts like a bad guy because people think he is a bad guy when he is a good guy and acts like a good guy when he is a bad guy but people think he is a good guy, is he bad or good?” “HOW IN THE WORLD AM I SUPPOSED TO ANSWER THAT!” TheRavensName shouted out with a bewildered look on his face. Corazón smirked, walked towards TheRavensName, and grabbed him. “Well, that was easy.” Corazón said. “No! No! That door is trolling me! There is no answer to that question! Seriously, you can’t buy these badges at Diagon Alley for 5 sickles! I can show you my birth certificate, I can write an owl to my parents! I’m a Ravenclaw, I sware!” TheRavensName shouted frantically, kicking and screaming as Corazón dragged him around the school. Corazón went down towards the dungeon, where the potions class has a big pot to mass-produce potions. Corazon tied TheRavensName up, threw some random ingredients into the caldron and stirred it all up until it smelled like torture. He turned to TheRavensName and said “Dude, you have to be Slytherin. We’re running out of students at Hogwarts. They’re all shy and never want to say anything. How am I supposed to get anything out of them? You’re so obviously Slytherin it hurts. Anyways, third time’s the charm, right?” with that, Corazón threw TheRavensName in the cauldron to sift through whatever he had thrown in there. The next time he passed by the portrait guarding Ravenclaw’s Common Room, the portrait said, “Are you the guy that dragged TheRavensName away from here after I asked him a question?” “Yeah.” Corazón replied. “Why?” “You should know that I was trolling him. There’s no actual answer to that question. It’s so silly and there’s no possible way to answer that.” The portrait said frankly. Corazón just glared at the portrait. Things were getting dire, and he needed to put things back together if they were to defeat the Slytherins and end this war once and for all. The last thing he needed was trolling portraits. TheRavensName, a Dumbledore’s Army Member, was trolled by his own house’s portrait and subsequently thrown into a giant cauldron! | ||
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On March 29 2013 01:15 TheRavensName wrote: This is something that stands out to me when I look at your filter ray that I would like explained. Why have you not called out Rainbow as scummy, and I mean REALLY called him out, for defending me so hard/ Your whole early case was based on me defending Jarjar... but Rainbows gets a free pass? Not only that, outside of addressing me, you have not made very many comments at rainbows at all. I thnk theres a good chance that if Rainbows flips red, your the other red. You guys are avoiding making cases against the same people, which is rather easy sense your focused on Frorgon, Krafia, and Me, while Rainbows went after virtu, Nobodywonder, ad Jarjar... who you have defended. TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS PEOPLE! | ||
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On March 30 2013 13:10 Blazinghand wrote: good thing i was here to choac amirit You really should have advised against that. Cause that could have easily went poorly. | ||
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On March 31 2013 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: It would be kind if someone who was following the game (maybe BH?) could point out if i made some obvious mistakes. I didn't really feel the need to consult BH at any point as i felt i had the control of the game at all times (NOT COUNTING AFTER RAINBOWS CLAIM.. PFFFFFF... ^^). You shouldn't have called me out for defending Jarjar and then ignored rainbows for doing it. It made it incredibly suspicious. | ||
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On March 31 2013 07:54 marvellosity wrote: There's very little to say about this game. The two most active and influential players were mafia. You can *easily* write up some fancy post-game thing about the mistakes that the mafia made, and it will probably all be true. But it's completely pointless. When mafia has that level of control over the town, mafia can actually afford to be lazy and careless (although of course they shouldn't). Practically by day 2 the game was totally won for mafia because no-one could/would oppose the monopoly they had over the thread. That's the only analysis there is. TheRavensName could *almost* have toppled this powerplay, but he didn't have the confidence, and also he had suspicion on him which meant that the rest of the townies were hesitant to believe him, when they could instead listen to the two mafia in control of the thread... So does that mean Rainbows and Ray get gold stars, and I get a broken half rusty bronze one? | ||
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On March 31 2013 08:15 Rainbows wrote: It means we all go on our merry way and put this behind us. I would but, another game hasn't started so I'm bored lol. | ||
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