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WaveofShadow

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March 20 2013 13:46 GMT

#1497

Meta aside, you guys are forcing me so I give up this time.
Looking way too much into shit that isn't there and I can't go through 2 pages of posts and try to turn you off of all of it.

I was going to wait until later tonight but I guess it doesn't matter now.
Maybe one of these mafia games I'll actually learn how to play.

It's up to you guys, but I'm dead by the end of N2 anyway. If you don't kill me mafia will now.

WaveofShadow

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March 20 2013 13:50 GMT

#1501

Oh it won't save me, that's the thing. But at least it'll cast enough doubt that you guys don't waste any more time on me (hopefully) and find some REAL scum today so that town actually has a shot at winning this game.
If my death N2 means that can happen well then fine; at least I contributed somehow.

WaveofShadow

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March 20 2013 13:52 GMT

#1504

Lol I wasn't aware I twisted the collective town's arms in this, zare.
Oh I even crumbed it a little if you guys are smart.

WaveofShadow

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March 20 2013 13:54 GMT

#1507

You guys are way too focused on dealing with active townies rather than dealing with half the thread who have contributed absolutely nothing and have sat behind the sidelines doing the exact same scummy thing you have accused me of doing or hell, not posted at all. At least I have a fucking FILTER for you guys to analyze.

The difference is I have actually attempted to steer you in the right direction while the scum go by unscathed because no one gives a shit enough to put pressure on them.

WaveofShadow

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March 20 2013 13:55 GMT

#1508

On March 20 2013 22:54 Mocsta wrote:

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(1) This reads to me as: Wild Goose hunt to disrupt scum hunting Day2

(2) Reminds me of what I did in Hydra setting up for the JK claim.. effectively stopped discussion for a good couple hours

Yeah, except the game was solved already so it didn't matter.
I'm not trying to stop discussion, I'm trying to make sure you guys don't waste another lynch and at least force mafia to dispose of me.

WaveofShadow

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March 20 2013 14:01 GMT

#1513

On March 20 2013 22:58 Vivax wrote:
WoS you seem to be tilting. Convince people about someone being a better lynch than you. If you roleclaim I will lynch you nontheless.

Mocsta another thing: During N1 and early D2 you were on zarepath calling him scummy about a lot of things (remember how he asked about the rolename?).

Now you seem to have lost track, what's your current read of zare?

I don't have all day to try and convince the entire fucking town not to make a huge mistake. I put forth a whole bunch of effort into it last night and that wasn't enough; I'm not trying again.
If the roleclaim isn't enough to do it then it's out of my hands.

I'll say it again: you guys are heavily overanalyzing everything I have done this game. Everything I have said thus far in this game and every game is nothing but the truth.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

March 20 2013 14:02 GMT

#1514

Alright Mocsta, you want association reads?
(It's a shame I can't post videos, I had a perfect one for this. Look up Alan Parson's Project: "Eye In the Sky." Fantastic song.)

I am The Eye
Lynch away!

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

March 20 2013 14:08 GMT

#1523

On March 20 2013 23:07 Mocsta wrote:
WoS.. i dont care what the role is

can we know who you performed the action on?

Nope!
You're smart...figure it out.

WaveofShadow

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March 20 2013 14:12 GMT

#1529

On March 20 2013 23:11 DarthPunk wrote:

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OK here is how this works. You claim your full role and give us any crumbs. Don't care about the night kill or w/e it is far far better for you to be night killed than for us to potentially mislynch you.

Really?
You think so?

WaveofShadow

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March 20 2013 14:15 GMT

#1534

On March 20 2013 23:14 Vivax wrote:
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On March 20 2013 23:11 Mocsta wrote:

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Can i call that a delurk? lol

actually my primary suspect hasnt chagned since my first read of p7-p20 the other day and my read now of p7-p15 tonight.

If it wasnt clear who that was since I joined the thread, its BH

I thought it was GK.
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On March 19 2013 03:09 Mocsta wrote:
Im only up to p13. but GoodKarma is scum yo

On March 19 2013 03:24 Mocsta wrote:

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I agree DYH

Im up to p15 and my two strongest reads are: GoodKarma + zarepath

zarepath already from his first 10 posts, is posting completely different to the 3-4 games I played with him in the past 1 to 2 months (he was town in all of them).

3rd read = weak is Vivax from his first post.. very odd reads,

but will reevaluate as i read more of the thread.

I thought it was me.

WaveofShadow

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March 20 2013 14:31 GMT

#1548

On March 20 2013 23:28 Vivax wrote:
WoS I looked for crumbs in N1 and couldn't find anything. Are you a DT, a watcher, an organ? What were your actions? You claimed so there's no point in holding secrets now.

Awww you actually looked. Yay someone listened to me!
Here's one.

On March 19 2013 14:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Goodie.

I'm always interested to hear what people think about me and I'm particularly interested in TPS.

On March 20 2013 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote:

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On March 20 2013 10:11 ThePeashooter wrote:

On March 20 2013 09:19 Vivax wrote:
Well I read it right now but frankly I developed the feeling he is town, I find others way scummier than him and WoS is a newbie so I understand him being defensive, dunno why he rides so much on not knowing how to metaread though.
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On March 20 2013 04:53 WaveofShadow wrote:

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Zare is scum rolecop imo

It's a guy who says these things to a guy who asks questions to a claimed veteran.

Kita don't you feel my Zarepath, GK and cosmicomics cases are good? I feel they are the strongest ones and I will likely not let go of those reads. I still have 2 wildcards currently occupied by Layabout and BH but TPS and glurio would fit in there too.

I think you might be a bit biased in your assessment of your cases. I find Kita's case to be exceptionally strong. You have to keep in mind what the goals are behind a post. What WoS is doing is a typical example of inexperienced scum and Kita illustrated it very well. He wants to be non confrontational and but also doesn't do anything towards town goals. It's that subconscious fear that every mafia player has to get over when the get a red role. You know you are scum, and you feel like everything you see is going to get scrutinized, but you can't say anything and you can't form your own cases because everyone else is town so any case you make you feel would be inherently suspicious.

So you end up in this weird state where you are too scared to make your own bullshit case, but need to fake some level of contribution. The end result is the analysis that Kita gave. A skilled scum player learns to take a persons words and use them out of context knowing way too many people will just believe the context you put them in and create a case on someone that most other townies could feasibly get behind.

The latter example is what I felt that Wade Fell was doing. However, I haven't done a full analysis on him to view what his motivations are behind his actions. Since it would be taken as OMGUS I preferred if Ace or Kita stepped up and lent a hand since I trust their skill in analyzing the situation and seeing if they agree or disagree with me. I could very well be letting my bias get the way which is why I wanted the help of someone else.

Alright let's try TPS now.
First of all, fuck you. First thing I was asked after Daypost popped up was do I want to sheep BH's case against you, and I said no, because I believed you were actually maybe capable of doing something useful for the town. Guess I was wrong.

Second, inexperienced maybe. Scum, no. I haven't formed any major cases because I honestly can't find a target that hasn't been scrutinized to death already that I could bring something new to the table for. So I act with my vote when I need to. I don't exactly think I've been non-confrontational at all this game, but of course that's a matter of perception. I guess everything I did during the day can just be ignored as well as what I'm doing now, sure. I wish, I WISH you didn't look scummy as fuck because then I'd make a case against YOU, but I still believe you are town, fuck if I know why. Gut reads doing me real justice thus far.

WaveofShadow

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March 20 2013 14:33 GMT

#1551

On March 20 2013 23:33 DarthPunk wrote:

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On March 20 2013 23:31 WaveofShadow wrote:

Awww you actually looked. Yay someone listened to me!
Here's one.

On March 19 2013 14:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Goodie.

I'm always interested to hear what people think about me and I'm particularly interested in TPS.

On March 20 2013 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote:

On March 20 2013 10:11 ThePeashooter wrote:

On March 20 2013 04:53 WaveofShadow wrote:

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Zare is scum rolecop imo

Stop playing games. Claim properly. behaving like this around the claim has already lost you a heap of credit in my eyes.

Remember how I said I don't lie? Here's me not lying: I don't give a shit.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

March 20 2013 14:36 GMT

#1555

Funny thing about my role, from the PM I assumed rolecop which usually means only role, no alignment, especially given this setup when we don't know what the names refer to that would make sense right?

Well I got alignment too.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

March 20 2013 14:38 GMT

#1560

I think from now on I'm honestly just going to lurk in mafia games. It seems a surefire way to survive as town or scum 'till D4 at least the way TL has played every single game I've ever been in. And fewer chances of me fucking myself over by opening my big mouth.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

March 20 2013 14:40 GMT

#1562

DP I already linked it. You quoted it.
Had I gone longer without having to reveal, before every nightcheck I would refer to someone being 'particularly interesting.'

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

March 20 2013 14:43 GMT

#1566

On March 20 2013 23:41 DarthPunk wrote:

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The game is not about survival. I usually survive a long time as town. That just shows me I need to improve my town game a lot.

Most of the good players get shot really early unless they are playing realy badly. For example, marv from personality 2.

You are playing well IMO. You just need to stop acting so strangely around your claim.

lolwut
Well?
If I was playing well I wouldn't constantly make so many dumbass posts it basically forces town to assume I'm scum every game.

Anyway, note how post nightflip I refuse to join BH's bandwagon against TPS immediately and in the post calling him out for his vote against me I note how scummy his behaviour is yet my 'gutread' refers to him as town.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

March 20 2013 14:44 GMT

#1568

On March 20 2013 23:42 zarepath wrote:
Wait, so Wave, you can DT somebody and you learn their role and their alignment?

Apparently so? There is a circumstance where I think this may not be true since again, my PM says nothing about alignment, but my rolecheck result surprised me.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

March 20 2013 14:45 GMT

#1570

Yeah that's right. You unvote.
Can we please start paying attention to all the people who sheeped me yesterday and still haven't shown up before all of my defenses and new evidence showed up after I went to bed?

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

March 20 2013 14:50 GMT

#1573

On March 20 2013 23:49 zarepath wrote:
So you know the name of TPS's role? I don't think there's any harm in revealing the name of the role, and then TPS can confirm whether that's his name or not.

Are you my scum counterpart?

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

March 20 2013 14:59 GMT

#1576

You guys just couldn't let it go.
I was making it work for me just like we did in Hydra mafia, but then it backfired in the exact same way.
We were looking just scummy enough for mafia to leave us alive hoping for the mislynch, but trying to contribute enough so that town would leave us alone.

Same thing here and I thought after last night I had it under control.....you guys.........

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