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On March 23 2013 06:06 Kenpachi wrote:
I think i should organize myself for once. None of these should be surprising, they're pretty agreeable.
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testsubject###
Teepeeshooter
waveofshadow
coagulation
Mafia
Wiggles
DarthPunk
zarepath (intuitive)
My lynch vote for today is Mr. Wiggles. Why? simple, he feigned usefulness here and there and here some more. I posted about his chainlink of questions and in general, he is playing like mafioso wiggles. Is there anything else for me to say WAVEOFSHADOW?
Why no opinion about cosmicomics? He hard-defended Wade Fell while attacking VE, who has claimed vet and we have no reason to doubt him. He is a low contributor and the tone of his posts seems very incongruous to his actual standing in the thread. He seems unwilling to recognize his low standing in the town, and thus the very tone of his posts is a sham.
I understand a Wiggles lynch but I really think cosmicomics looks scummier.
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On March 23 2013 18:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
How exactly would me being a rolechecked explain the Vivax death?
Because it there's strong reasoning to kill a solid player with a KP role. It's just a
On March 23 2013 18:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Here's my problem with you: that's dumb and you didn't consider the fact that maybe they didn't RB D1 for whatever reason.
I see no reason for them not to RB someone if it's available.
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I am no state to play mafia at the moment see y'all next cycle
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@Ryu:
Well, if we were to assume that scum have a recruiter, then I think that VE being recruited into scum could work. It would make sense if scum tried to shoot him N1 as a town vet, he lived, claimed vet, and then scum recruited him. With how much VE kept bringing up the shot he was supposed to have taken, I could see this fitting in. That was one of the major things that VE kept using in his defense, that he took a shot. If it wasn't VE, I probably would have killed him for it, as pushing that you were supposed to have taken a shot that much would imply that there was something off about it. So, if I was the scum team, recruiting a player who survived a shot could make a lot of sense as they get a lot of free cred.
I don't think it had anything to do with BH though, unless it was a one time use, because GK flipped town. So in this scenario, VE would be a townie who took a shot, and then was recruited by scum. I'm not sure if that's what you were thinking or not. If you had something else in mind as far as conspiracy theories go, let me know, it's fun.
re: Glurio
Basically, reading Glurio, I got the impression that he was newer to the game. Looking at his history right now, that seems like a decently fair assessment. Now, when I read his posts, I don't see any hint of coaching or direction from other players. If he was scum, I would think he would be being directed by his scum team. For example, on the first day, he goes after Sandro after he made two posts. I don't think a scum team would let one of their members do something like that, because it's pretty scummy and draws a lot of attention to yourself, attacking a player with two posts, and one who is a high profile player. There's a whole lot of stuff like that in his filter, where he just sort of does whatever and acts however he feels like, that doesn't feel at all like he has a scum team behind him or someone telling him what to do.
Other than that, his train of thought is pretty apparent. He says who he thinks is scummy, and then later on, you'll see mention of the same person again with something like a vote. Also, he isn't careful about his reads. For example, he votes WoS and calls him out, WoS claims later, and this is the post he unvotes with:
On March 21 2013 05:47 glurio wrote:
Ok i believe WoS's claim and unvote him.
There's absolutely zero covering or softening. I would expect a scum player would try to make the transition slower, and make some long winded post saying about how they just only believe WoS, or that they still have their eye on him, or something to imply that they're reluctant to unvote their scum read. Here, he just unvotes him, simple as that. His posting seems quite honest to me, there's no politicking behind it, or trying to make himself look good.
Same thing with his reads post today. He just blatantly says, "Here's two guys who flipped town and their scum reads, I'm going to look at these people. I agree with these ones, and not these ones". I think a scum player would be more careful to make his reads look original, or at least not like he was blatantly using dead town players as a starting point.
So, my read on Glurio comes mostly from the tone and style of his posts. It doesn't feel like he's being deceptive about what he's doing, and it doesn't feel like he has a scum team pulling his strings. He's not working towards some scum master goal, he's just sort of doing his own thing and posting stuff to explain where his head's at each day.
Does that make sense?
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I agree with you on glurio, I just wanted to see if your reasoning was similar to mine. I recall saying earlier in the game that I'd rather lynch TranceStorm over glurio because glurio seemed to not really care about what others thought of him. Cool. Thanks for the input.
I want to lynch DP today over wiggles. I don't think a scum wiggles has the incentive to be here and answering these questions as openly as wiggles is. I don't see him do this as scum and I don't think we'll get what we want with this lynch. It bothers me that there's no resistance.
If any of you agree with me, then vote to lynch DarthPunk.
##unvote
##vote DarthPunk
+ Show Spoiler +I'd rather lynch VE but I know no one will want to lynch him.
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Why not cosmicomics? And why DP?
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I'd be down to kill him as well, though I haven't read into him as much as DP.
I find that DP hasn't done as much as he normally does as town.
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Heya I'm back and reading the thread. Once again there is a really weak push onto me for no reason. Good times.
On March 24 2013 12:21 RyuSuzaku wrote:
I find that DP hasn't done as much as he normally does as town.
When THIS is the stated reason that someone wants to lynch me when I have a 9 page filter and the person claiming I am not doing enough to be town has a 2 page filter something s wrong.
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Also coag just ninja voted in the voting thread. What is up with that coag? I will be here for the next 2 hours. If people want to talk. I fully support the wiggles lynch So I will be voting for him.
##Vote: Mr. Wiggles
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Lol to be fair wasn't your case against GK basically the same thing?
Like "I've seen him play town and this isn't his town play let's vote him?"
In any case nothing Wiggles has said thus far has made me want to change my mind on this. If people are willing to listen to why glurio is scum I'll see if I can get to my case tonight.
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On March 24 2013 12:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol to be fair wasn't your case against GK basically the same thing?
Like "I've seen him play town and this isn't his town play let's vote him?"
In any case nothing Wiggles has said thus far has made me want to change my mind on this. If people are willing to listen to why glurio is scum I'll see if I can get to my case tonight.
He had a two page filter. I have a 9 page filter.Every other town game of GK he has taken a leadership position, this game he did not but I am assuming his town play wasn't the same because he was laying low being a medic and all.
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I'm going to begrudgingly vote wiggles. I guess I can hope that if he flips scum it will give us a direction to go with the scum hunting, although if he's town it's going to give us very little. To clarify a bit, I think if he flips scum it will show the mafia had no real town influence apart from Wade Fell spamming like a douche, if he's town then we are pretty fucked going into day 4.
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You have my thoughts on every player left in the game as of this morning. Use that however you want. My town reads so far have been decently accurate, I read Vivax/Scib/GK all as town before they flipped. Unfortunately my scum reads have been very off. I feel that town's in a bad position, but it isn't unsalvageable. No one left in the game really feels like they have a strong hold over the course the town is taking, and with a lot of the spammers dead, someone with a good analysis can break the game open again for town. So, it's not like scum has town in a stranglehold where they're controlling all the lynches, it's just that the town's been so mediocre and disorganized that they haven't gotten their shit together enough yet to kill scum. So, while it looks pretty bad, I think if someone actually comes up with something good, they can at least even the game out a little.
@ryu:
Is there anything else you'd like to ask me or have me clarify before I hang?
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On March 24 2013 12:36 DarthPunk wrote:Heya I'm back and reading the thread. Once again there is a really weak push onto me for no reason. Good times. Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 12:21 RyuSuzaku wrote:
I find that DP hasn't done as much as he normally does as town. When THIS is the stated reason that someone wants to lynch me when I have a 9 page filter and the person claiming I am not doing enough to be town has a 2 page filter something s wrong.
who cares? Size of filter does not correlate with contribution.
In fact, you look even worse for the fact that you have so many posts yet I can't remember a single one of them, despite at some point reading them all.
On March 24 2013 13:29 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
You have my thoughts on every player left in the game as of this morning. Use that however you want. My town reads so far have been decently accurate, I read Vivax/Scib/GK all as town before they flipped. Unfortunately my scum reads have been very off. I feel that town's in a bad position, but it isn't unsalvageable. No one left in the game really feels like they have a strong hold over the course the town is taking, and with a lot of the spammers dead, someone with a good analysis can break the game open again for town. So, it's not like scum has town in a stranglehold where they're controlling all the lynches, it's just that the town's been so mediocre and disorganized that they haven't gotten their shit together enough yet to kill scum. So, while it looks pretty bad, I think if someone actually comes up with something good, they can at least even the game out a little.
@ryu:
Is there anything else you'd like to ask me or have me clarify before I hang?
If you could kill any three players right now, who would you kill?
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On March 24 2013 13:45 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 12:36 DarthPunk wrote:Heya I'm back and reading the thread. Once again there is a really weak push onto me for no reason. Good times. On March 24 2013 12:21 RyuSuzaku wrote:
I find that DP hasn't done as much as he normally does as town. When THIS is the stated reason that someone wants to lynch me when I have a 9 page filter and the person claiming I am not doing enough to be town has a 2 page filter something s wrong. who cares? Size of filter does not correlate with contribution. In fact, you look even worse for the fact that you have so many posts yet I can't remember a single one of them, despite at some point reading them all. Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 13:29 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
You have my thoughts on every player left in the game as of this morning. Use that however you want. My town reads so far have been decently accurate, I read Vivax/Scib/GK all as town before they flipped. Unfortunately my scum reads have been very off. I feel that town's in a bad position, but it isn't unsalvageable. No one left in the game really feels like they have a strong hold over the course the town is taking, and with a lot of the spammers dead, someone with a good analysis can break the game open again for town. So, it's not like scum has town in a stranglehold where they're controlling all the lynches, it's just that the town's been so mediocre and disorganized that they haven't gotten their shit together enough yet to kill scum. So, while it looks pretty bad, I think if someone actually comes up with something good, they can at least even the game out a little.
@ryu:
Is there anything else you'd like to ask me or have me clarify before I hang? If you could kill any three players right now, who would you kill?
The same could be said for your posts with me. Anyway I think it's your problem because many others have had town reads on me.
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On March 24 2013 13:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 13:45 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 24 2013 12:36 DarthPunk wrote:Heya I'm back and reading the thread. Once again there is a really weak push onto me for no reason. Good times. On March 24 2013 12:21 RyuSuzaku wrote:
I find that DP hasn't done as much as he normally does as town. When THIS is the stated reason that someone wants to lynch me when I have a 9 page filter and the person claiming I am not doing enough to be town has a 2 page filter something s wrong. who cares? Size of filter does not correlate with contribution. In fact, you look even worse for the fact that you have so many posts yet I can't remember a single one of them, despite at some point reading them all. On March 24 2013 13:29 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
You have my thoughts on every player left in the game as of this morning. Use that however you want. My town reads so far have been decently accurate, I read Vivax/Scib/GK all as town before they flipped. Unfortunately my scum reads have been very off. I feel that town's in a bad position, but it isn't unsalvageable. No one left in the game really feels like they have a strong hold over the course the town is taking, and with a lot of the spammers dead, someone with a good analysis can break the game open again for town. So, it's not like scum has town in a stranglehold where they're controlling all the lynches, it's just that the town's been so mediocre and disorganized that they haven't gotten their shit together enough yet to kill scum. So, while it looks pretty bad, I think if someone actually comes up with something good, they can at least even the game out a little.
@ryu:
Is there anything else you'd like to ask me or have me clarify before I hang? If you could kill any three players right now, who would you kill? The same could be said for your posts with me. Anyway I think it's your problem because many others have had town reads on me.
not really. I can't think of any lynch you've supported, or any of your reads, since you've been a nonfactor this game. Normally that's not a good sign.
I have not necessarily had the time to post as much as I've wanted to, but I've been very clear on my reads, perhaps barring today (since Trance got modkilled/whatever happened to him and my #1 target is pretty much not going to get lynched)
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it's also particularly telling that the only thing you did once entering the thread was complain about the push on you.
You seem threatened, despite the fact that Wiggles is almost certainly dead today.
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On March 24 2013 13:50 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 13:46 DarthPunk wrote:On March 24 2013 13:45 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 24 2013 12:36 DarthPunk wrote:Heya I'm back and reading the thread. Once again there is a really weak push onto me for no reason. Good times. On March 24 2013 12:21 RyuSuzaku wrote:
I find that DP hasn't done as much as he normally does as town. When THIS is the stated reason that someone wants to lynch me when I have a 9 page filter and the person claiming I am not doing enough to be town has a 2 page filter something s wrong. who cares? Size of filter does not correlate with contribution. In fact, you look even worse for the fact that you have so many posts yet I can't remember a single one of them, despite at some point reading them all. On March 24 2013 13:29 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
You have my thoughts on every player left in the game as of this morning. Use that however you want. My town reads so far have been decently accurate, I read Vivax/Scib/GK all as town before they flipped. Unfortunately my scum reads have been very off. I feel that town's in a bad position, but it isn't unsalvageable. No one left in the game really feels like they have a strong hold over the course the town is taking, and with a lot of the spammers dead, someone with a good analysis can break the game open again for town. So, it's not like scum has town in a stranglehold where they're controlling all the lynches, it's just that the town's been so mediocre and disorganized that they haven't gotten their shit together enough yet to kill scum. So, while it looks pretty bad, I think if someone actually comes up with something good, they can at least even the game out a little.
@ryu:
Is there anything else you'd like to ask me or have me clarify before I hang? If you could kill any three players right now, who would you kill? The same could be said for your posts with me. Anyway I think it's your problem because many others have had town reads on me. not really. I can't think of any lynch you've supported, or any of your reads, since you've been a nonfactor this game. Normally that's not a good sign. I have not necessarily had the time to post as much as I've wanted to, but I've been very clear on my reads, perhaps barring today (since Trance got modkilled/whatever happened to him and my #1 target is pretty much not going to get lynched)
Then read the thread. I have been far from a non factor despite your assertions. YOU have in fact been a non factor which is ironic.
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On March 24 2013 13:54 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 13:50 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 24 2013 13:46 DarthPunk wrote:On March 24 2013 13:45 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 24 2013 12:36 DarthPunk wrote:Heya I'm back and reading the thread. Once again there is a really weak push onto me for no reason. Good times. On March 24 2013 12:21 RyuSuzaku wrote:
I find that DP hasn't done as much as he normally does as town. When THIS is the stated reason that someone wants to lynch me when I have a 9 page filter and the person claiming I am not doing enough to be town has a 2 page filter something s wrong. who cares? Size of filter does not correlate with contribution. In fact, you look even worse for the fact that you have so many posts yet I can't remember a single one of them, despite at some point reading them all. On March 24 2013 13:29 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
You have my thoughts on every player left in the game as of this morning. Use that however you want. My town reads so far have been decently accurate, I read Vivax/Scib/GK all as town before they flipped. Unfortunately my scum reads have been very off. I feel that town's in a bad position, but it isn't unsalvageable. No one left in the game really feels like they have a strong hold over the course the town is taking, and with a lot of the spammers dead, someone with a good analysis can break the game open again for town. So, it's not like scum has town in a stranglehold where they're controlling all the lynches, it's just that the town's been so mediocre and disorganized that they haven't gotten their shit together enough yet to kill scum. So, while it looks pretty bad, I think if someone actually comes up with something good, they can at least even the game out a little.
@ryu:
Is there anything else you'd like to ask me or have me clarify before I hang? If you could kill any three players right now, who would you kill? The same could be said for your posts with me. Anyway I think it's your problem because many others have had town reads on me. not really. I can't think of any lynch you've supported, or any of your reads, since you've been a nonfactor this game. Normally that's not a good sign. I have not necessarily had the time to post as much as I've wanted to, but I've been very clear on my reads, perhaps barring today (since Trance got modkilled/whatever happened to him and my #1 target is pretty much not going to get lynched) Then read the thread. I have been far from a non factor despite your assertions. YOU have in fact been a non factor which is ironic.
Apparently you don't even remember day 1.
I might have been wrong, but at the very least I got my choice lynched (as opposed to getting GK lynched, the major candidate at the time, who would have flipped medic.)
Nice attempt to turn it around on me, though. Wanna try again?
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Nah Ryu's been a factor.
In the mislynching of GreyMist.
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