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Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 20:30 GMT
#2381
:| well VE you can just call us bad, but our points speak for themselves. What WERE you thinking? Or were you just scum trying to deflect your lynch onto a townie
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 21 2013 20:30 GMT
#2382
wf may be scum. He has done fuck all but tunnel you. but I cant really get on board your case till the wiggles/ace thing is resolved
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 20:31 GMT
#2383
I might be scum but if I am scum I am bussing VE who is also scum

look at him and tell me he's not scum
Politics is the Mind-Killer
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 21 2013 20:33 GMT
#2384
I want your thoughts on the case. I'm not pushing for anyone's lynch it's nighttime doofus. I want you to discuss my case because I may be dead later and your thoughts now will matter more than your thoughts after I die.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 21 2013 20:33 GMT
#2385
On March 22 2013 05:31 Wade Fell wrote:
I might be scum but if I am scum I am bussing VE who is also scum

look at him and tell me he's not scum

WADE FELL CLAIMS SCUM LMFAO WHAT IS THIS SHIT?!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 20:34 GMT
#2386
I discussed it already. :| you have not responded to my teardown of your case.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 20:34 GMT
#2387
On March 22 2013 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 05:31 Wade Fell wrote:
I might be scum but if I am scum I am bussing VE who is also scum

look at him and tell me he's not scum

WADE FELL CLAIMS SCUM LMFAO WHAT IS THIS SHIT?!


nice misrepresentation. I'm saying my arguments stand on their merits, you are scum WHETHER OR NOT I am scum so we lynch you
Politics is the Mind-Killer
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 21 2013 20:38 GMT
#2388
I saw a good case in the Wiggles case. I agreed with the Wiggles case. There's nothing more to say on the matter. IT doesn't matter if he's my top scumread because he posted a case I agreed with on someone else I was suspicious of - much in the way that you agreed with my suspicions on Ryu. But you know, failed to post said "super BH case filled with links and shit"? Remember that BH? You're using this as the crux of your argument against me and you did THE EXACT SAME THING ON N1.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 20:39 GMT
#2389
You had INCONTROVERTIBLE proof wiggles is scum, proof that you STILL haven't shared with us

WHERE IS IT?

You said he was irrefutably scum.

THEN YOU'RE LIKE HEY WIGGS LETS BE BUDDIES
Politics is the Mind-Killer
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 21 2013 20:40 GMT
#2390
Which by the way Wade, how's that suspicion of Ryu coming? You keep grasping at things that might possibly make me scum, when you keep NOT providing any supporting reasoning for anyone else you're suspicious of. You're overly aggressive with both myself AND TestSubject AND Peashooter, when you provide virtually NO REASONING for being suspicious.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 20:40 GMT
#2391
On March 22 2013 05:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
I saw a good case in the Wiggles case. I agreed with the Wiggles case. There's nothing more to say on the matter. IT doesn't matter if he's my top scumread because he posted a case I agreed with on someone else I was suspicious of - much in the way that you agreed with my suspicions on Ryu. But you know, failed to post said "super BH case filled with links and shit"? Remember that BH? You're using this as the crux of your argument against me and you did THE EXACT SAME THING ON N1.


Yeah i didn't post a huge case because you SHAT ON ME by outing me in the thread and I specifically note that Ryu is not my top scumread at the end of the night.

I still post cases, because I'm afraid hey maybe I'll die. But you haven't posted at ALL about wiggles. Do you think he is scum? Yes or no answer pls
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 20:41 GMT
#2392
On March 22 2013 05:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Which by the way Wade, how's that suspicion of Ryu coming? You keep grasping at things that might possibly make me scum, when you keep NOT providing any supporting reasoning for anyone else you're suspicious of. You're overly aggressive with both myself AND TestSubject AND Peashooter, when you provide virtually NO REASONING for being suspicious.


I've provided tons of reasoning for all my reads, and I do NOT think TPS is scum any more and I have stated so clearly in the thread. Testsubject is literally trying to lurk his way to victory (which, btw, is WHAT HE DOES when he's not town) and you STILL have no clear explanation for what you were thinking during D2
Politics is the Mind-Killer
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 21 2013 20:43 GMT
#2393
Hyperbole is one of my most endearing quirks and everyone fucking knows that Wade. I had no "irrefutable proof" that Wiggles was scum, I was just trying to get him lynched. I still think he might be scum, but as I've said several times (that you conveniently aren't mentioning or haven't read) that when I tried to write a Wiggles case, I found myself just making shit up.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 20:43 GMT
#2394
VE you can't avoid your logical inconsistencies by saying "hey guys WF isn't perfect". The fact that what you've done makes ZERO sense from a town perspective doesn't go away just cause you fink crap at me
Politics is the Mind-Killer
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 21 2013 20:43 GMT
#2395
Where did I say "hey guys WF isn't perfect"? Where did I say that Wade?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 21 2013 20:45 GMT
#2396
Tell me what's logically inconsistent about me choosing to add my vote to a lynch candidate based on a case that I like? What's logically inconsistent about that? TELL ME WADE! Don't say some shit about "OH he was your top scumread" because that's associative bullshit FUCKING HORRIBLE PLAY WADE. Wiggles made a case I liked, I added my vote. That's what happened.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 21 2013 20:57 GMT
#2397
And what do you make of my claim Wade? Do you suppose I'm scum who withheld a shot on N1 to claim Vet? Is that what you think happened? You're not even TRYING to figure things out based on facts, you're just grabbing shit that looks scummy and decrying me for it. THIS IS SCUM BEHAVIOR.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 20:57 GMT
#2398
I don't speculate about night actions.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 20:58 GMT
#2399
VisceraEyes, i'm not saying you and wiggs are a scumteam. I'm saying if you have a top scumread it doesn't really make a hue amount of sense to be like "oh hey scumread who I irrefutably think is scum, I think you are correct"
Politics is the Mind-Killer
cosmicomics
Profile Joined March 2013
81 Posts
March 21 2013 20:59 GMT
#2400
On March 21 2013 12:37 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 12:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Three of you just switched to Good Karma in the last twenty minutes. He only has four votes. Why can't we kill Ace again?

There's like honestly no reason...

What you just posted makes sense to me. The "not useful" meta argument I had doesn't seem to hold water, as I believe this is a solid case. While your day one was very scummy, as was some of your wishy-washy reads from today, I feel your case deserves consideration.

Unfortunately, time is short. I'm going to change my vote while I look further into this.:

##Unvote
##Vote: Ace

goodkarma acknowledges that Mr. Wiggles is very scummy, but "feels" like his case is still worth consideration. He then puts his vote on Ace while acknowledging the lack of time. Let me repeat that. He acknowledges that his super scummy read Mr. Wiggles made a case, that the case "feels" ok even though he didn't have time to read it, an proceeds to side with his super scum read Mr. Wiggles. He moves his vote before he looks further into this. And he doesn't look into it at all! This means that goodkarma, without properly reading his scum read Mr. Wiggles' case decided it was better to err on his side and vote Ace. Before reading.

How does he respond to Ace's flip?
On March 22 2013 02:02 goodkarma wrote:
Would it be possible for us to, like maybe, consolidate on the top two candidates like ~halfway through the day cycle so that, like maybe, we can have a more decisive vote result that can actually be analyzed? It turned into a 3-way split result... Like how in the fuck did you expect things would end well?

But goodkarma, you switched too... There were like 4+ people who couldn't be bothered to consolidate on the top two candidates of the day (VE/Mr. Wiggles), and I thought fuck it (I know, not great reasoning... feel free to hammer me but tbh exactly my thought process). What I saw in Mr. Wiggle's most recent case was what I perceived to be a blatant scumslip. We're talking about the legendary ace. Wanting to hunt who he thought to be 3P and not scum. It just didn't make sense from a town perspective, so even if he wasn't in the game that long I opted to lynch him.

But if you want a TL;DR for what to take from the ace mislynch:

We need to consolidate on two candidates, and anyone who can't be bothered to and/or brings up new candidates late in the cycle should be looked at with extra suspicion. Maybe some people here didn't know better before, but you do now. So no more excuses.

He blames town for not voting in a way where he can analyze the vote results. Where does he get off doing this? Even when he talks about the Ace mislynch, notice where the blame lies. He blames Ace for not playing the way he should have. He doesn't admit any fault of his own, he doesn't give an explanation why did a hard hard 180 on someone he called super scummy, and he doesn't even bother trying to draw conclusions about Mr. Wiggles' alignment!

He is overly concerned with how he himself is perceived rather than showing any indication of trying to figure out the game. He blames everyone else but makes sure to explain why he deserves none of the blame. He lectures town on how they should behave rather than providing any meaningful contribution / insights, even into the person who swayed him to lynch Ace. Who flipped town.

goodkarma is scum
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