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I actually thought he meant "named VT" as in he said that DrH's role name is named a VT cause I only checked afterwards that the House of Parliament has the unflavoured name "named VT". So I thought Dandel was calling DrH a VT/was doubting his claim something along the lines but that got cleared up when I actually read the OP thoroughly. I still think we should lynch Dandel since he's asking for it. No WIFOM bullshit like "he's behaving like scum so he can't be scum". Hapa I have to currently assume you're town I would like you to go through the things I wrote about Artanis. I have a well structured post about him and I would like you to look into Prom as well since he has accused me of things that are obvious lies but refuses to comment on them or adapt his read when I mention them. He said something about having a meta read on me he didn't want to share earlier but only came out to vote for me after I accused him of being scum. | ||
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On March 06 2013 07:53 Promethelax wrote: Wait. Going back to Vivax's list why am I not crossed out? All I've done is call him scum for good reasons which he has called shit and called me scum for. But he still feels a need to respect my posts? Yeah, Vivax is scum. You have provoked me countless times saying I'm a numbnut and something else I currently don't remember but I think you were just provoking me to get me mad and to let me shit up the thread by starting a flamewar with you. I'm not biting and think it was a strategy, not something genuine. After all I can't recall hearing a negative opinion from you about me outside of this game aside from LIX where it was justified. | ||
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On March 06 2013 08:10 Promethelax wrote: sorry sorry: for jay @dan: why Is jay your girlfriend or what | ||
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On March 06 2013 08:12 Promethelax wrote: Yes in fact I have played with Dan a decent amount. And hosted with him. We talk, I know him. I think he is town. jay could you give me a three sentence explanation of what you think of Vivax. Vivax my pizza-loving friend, could you tell me what you think of Jay. He's sure I'm scum and doesn't like Dandel but doesn't threaten him with a lynch to get him to play properly. Doesn't look as scummy as he usually does as town (lol). That's mainly when he jumps around and FoSes people for no reason forgetting about them some posts later, I'm thinking about Normal Mini IV . He is much more curious as town in that game and jumps a lot between reads as you see, also in opportunistic ways when he's about to get lynched. Here he wants to lynch me, sits back and talks a little badly about Dandel. Would lynch! | ||
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I've gladly provided you my opinion on jay though, it's up there. | ||
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The main points keeping me set on lynching Prom were that he lied about what I did without replying back to my counter arguments or adapting his read on me, I already mentioned this. I found Artanis scummy cause he seemed to have the intention to attack you for giving townreads to so many players which I saw as towntell instead. He also called that process "buddying" and not giving townreads so it looked like he was trying to distort things. Both Prom and Artanis used the buddying argument which is an argument that you can only use to call people scum of whom you think they are buddying townies, cause I don't think that you would fear scum buddying scum, that doesn't make much sense. So it kinda showed me that Artanis had extra information about the people you supposedly buddied and was afraid of townies trusting each other so quickly. Prom used the buddying argument too but it actually was consistent given his townread on Dandel. It's hard for me to let go of my Artanis scumread given this reasoning, I'd rather believe Prom to be scum cause he so openly lies about me and ignores the replies. But the more the game goes on the more I notice he's being quite active and confrontational and asking question so I'm slowly moving towards the town end of things with him. I still want him to correct what he said about me "buddying" artanis and saying I didn't push my reads cause that's simply not true. Dandel would be more of a policy lynch. His trolly, unreadable play didn't help anyone so I want him to play more pro-town and make himself more transparent. Now that people are asking him about me the process has seemingly started so I feel free to cut him out from my lynch choices. Currently: Artanis>Jay>Prom | ||
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His overall behaviour starts to look better I think but him lying about me to justify a vote that looks like OMGUS and then ignoring all my replies is what I find scummy about him, so I prefer to stick to my scumread. Him being consistent with saying I buddied Dandel just means that he didn't make a mistake if he's scum, not that he's town. Artanis instead basically attacked you by saying you buddied with them, and it doesn't make sense that he read them all as town if you know what I mean, if you know what I mean. @ Jay On March 06 2013 04:30 Vivax wrote: Huh. Me scum for not voting someone but then doing it? That's interesting... Meta sucks when you don't know how to use it. I'm not too sure between jay and Prome currently but Prome just did something that I don't think I would see him doing as mafia. Jay instead is rather lurky that's not good. It makes sense to be scared to post as scum from his perspective. My top priority remains Artanis as of now, I don't like how he hooked onto a bad argument to vote for me and his start into the game remains scummy. On March 06 2013 04:47 Vivax wrote: I don't know how you misread my post, but it's Artanis > Jay > You . I said why I think jay is lurky as scum: He's afraid to get lynched like he does ~ 80 % of the times he's town, so he tries to play more carefully and posts less as scum. I'm sick of having to paraphrase things I repeated over and over go read my filter before asking me questions seriously. This applies to everyone. My concern with jay is that he's so careful and posts in a too thought out, economic way. I was basically the only one reading him as town in the Normal Mini I posted so I'm confident in my read. | ||
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On March 06 2013 07:06 Vivax wrote: Buddying your former scumread = Scum agenda LOL. + Show Spoiler + In the first place, doing something like this as scum is massively counterproductive, you shit by yourself on the fake cases you wrote and attract attention. 0/10. When it wasn't buddying at all but asking Artanis if he would support your lynch. + Show Spoiler + Cause asking someone nicely if they would support a lynch on another scum-read of yours = buddying SCUMJAY IN DESSERT MAFIA I can roughly state that he asks way less questions and makes way more statements as mafia. Rather giving out firm opinions and defending himself is his meta there, and it looks quite similar to this one and especially different from Normal Mini's town meta. | ||
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Btw the underlined thing is a link to his filter. | ||
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Lies by Prom, unfolded On March 06 2013 05:37 Promethelax wrote: -snipped- Vivax doesn't want Artanis lynched. He is trying to work with Artanis to get me lynched. He hasn't been pushing his reads and is scum. Vote vivax. Vote for scum. On March 05 2013 23:57 Vivax wrote: Well anyway, people I would lynch currently: Artanis, Prom, jay. Let's see what happens soon. Jay and Prom cause of exclusion, Artanis cause I can't unsee what I found scummy and he seems afraid to call Hapa scum after our confrontation. But I'll see how he plays the day out, in the meantime I'll favour him over the others. ##Unvote ##Vote Artanis On March 06 2013 04:30 Vivax wrote: Huh. Me scum for not voting someone but then doing it? That's interesting... Meta sucks when you don't know how to use it. I'm not too sure between jay and Prome currently but Prome just did something that I don't think I would see him doing as mafia. Jay instead is rather lurky that's not good. It makes sense to be scared to post as scum from his perspective. My top priority remains Artanis as of now, I don't like how he hooked onto a bad argument to vote for me and his start into the game remains scummy. On March 06 2013 04:47 Vivax wrote: I don't know how you misread my post, but it's Artanis > Jay > You . I said why I think jay is lurky as scum: He's afraid to get lynched like he does ~ 80 % of the times he's town, so he tries to play more carefully and posts less as scum. On March 06 2013 04:49 Vivax wrote: [iamp] The wagon of justice is placed on Artanis today. Lynch the scum. There are no excuses [/iamp] On March 06 2013 05:05 Vivax wrote: Oh shit doublepost sorry BH have mercy please please. Well that makes it more iampy doesn't it. I had to lend iamp's power for this one. To add something more substantial to this: I'll make a recap of what I found scummy about artanis.
Will post arguments for why I think Hapa is town where Artanis said he saw buddying and also why the way of Artanis attacking that post was scummy when I feel like and when I got enough feedback on Arta. In the meantime, discussing whether a FoS is a massive difference in psychology like Artanis wants me to is so abysmal I refuse to do that. He confirmed by himself I used that as both alignments and
I made a huge recap of the points against Artanis 20 minutes before you said I didn't push his lynch and worked with him to get you lynched. You lied and you still refuse to admit it. Saying I buddied him for asking him if he wants to lynch you is the other one. On March 06 2013 05:31 Vivax wrote: Artanis you only had eyes and posts for me this game who else would you see as scum. You mentioned jay somewhat for not contributing and you're unwilling to go for Prom since he's posting more. Would you have a problem if we lynch Prom today? There's this question pending. I didn't say you're town I said you did something that put you below jay: You asked Artanis if he had another scumread besides me but then refused to comment on what's going on between us so far despite you asking both of us questions. That does make you scummy cause appearing interested on the surface but disinterested in the substance. Artanis we lynch Prom today do you disagree? ##Unvote ##Vote Promethelax The underlined parts you called buddying. | ||
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No honour lost, just a new chance with new alignments. You don't need to thank me. | ||
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Don't even know for sure why I ordered them like I did, it isn't rational but gut and the effort I invested into reading them. It doesn't matter. Given Prom's latest blooper I'd put him there first and jay second cause I am more convinced than before after digging through the meta. | ||
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LYNCH ALL THE THINGS AND LEAVE ME ALONE LOL ##Unvote ##VOTE EVERYTHING | ||
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Sorry for my tone but I'm getting tired of paraphrasing things I already said for the xthousandth's time. I'm not scum and it should be obvious, let's lynch someone already. | ||
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##Unvote ##thrawn2112 A little vote to wake him up. | ||
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