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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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March 03 2013 23:34 GMT
#75
/in
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 06 2013 22:45 GMT
#159
Any start date works for me. Stoked for this.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 10 2013 18:25 GMT
#461
Hey guys I just woke up. I'm stutters and I'm vanilla town. Plz don't lynch me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 10 2013 20:03 GMT
#483
On March 11 2013 03:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Nothing important going on in thread I see? Not surprised given the player list this game. Too many unskilled newbies.
Lynch Ver or sloosh. Guys are scrubs and mafia.

Very convincing. I can feel.the skill oozing from this post.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 10 2013 21:18 GMT
#503
Well I'm being called bad scum. It's a change to the usual assumptions that I'm master scum who has just never rolled scum. Fortunately for town you're still wrong.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 10 2013 22:07 GMT
#527
So do you believe his claim that he can turn informant then?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 10 2013 23:46 GMT
#585
On March 11 2013 08:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
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On March 11 2013 08:25 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 11 2013 08:06 cDgCorazon wrote:
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On March 11 2013 07:07 Vivax wrote:
On March 11 2013 06:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 11 2013 06:31 Vivax wrote:
On March 11 2013 06:20 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 11 2013 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro...

##Vote: Yamato

Gonna start scumhunting?


Does this not describe your play too? Did you not just delurk to call out Yam/Acro for something you yourself were guilty of?

What do you think of the "other targets being hunted"?


I think Strongandbig's argument is very good. It's very convincing, but we are still a long time away from the deadline. Other than that, I've just seen a lot of nonsense and posts that I cannot understand.

I was the first one to start scum hunting, don't accuse me of not doing that...

Also, it's a bit frustrating to try and scumhunt and then have 5 people complain that no one has scumhunted...


[vivax]
You think his argument is very good? His case is pretty big what exactly do you think is good about it or what parts do you think are good?

If you think his argument is good why aren't you pushing Oats and say we're far away from deadline?
[/vivax]



I think he makes good points. If you're going to make me repeat what he is saying and then try to hammer me for it, it's not going to happen.

I'm not pushing Oats because I am pushing my own read (Yamato). Just because SnB's case is good doesn't give us an excuse to sit around for 24+ hours and do nothing. I've already said why Yamato is scummy and now I'm voting for him. It's pretty simple.


I don't think I said I wanted to hammer you it's just strange that you comment on someone's case as being very good without reacting to it by either voting for the guy in the case or putting it into relation with your own case.

I don't understand why you are so afraid of me I just asked you something that made me curious
Why aren't you trying to persuade me about the yamato lynch then?

You too Kurumi I only asked you to write in a way that is understandable I don't get why you react like that (also you failed to roleplay didn't I break the Chezinu role or something like that ? )


I'm not afraid of you, it's just that I don't trust anyone right now, and I could see how scum Vivax would turn that around on me.

I'll be coming out with a case a few hours before the deadline. It's too early now and I know that cases presented too early in the day just lose so much traction (My case on WB in NMM 37).


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On March 11 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote:
On March 11 2013 06:47 Kurumi wrote:
oh I will repeat that
I AM A SCUM ROLE AND I AM TOWN ALIGNED AND I WANT TO DIE SO WE CAN AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF ME BEING A MOLE
thanks


so, if you're intent on being lynched, why don't you tell us what your role is?

hi s&b. we're not lynching Oats today and to be honest I only barely skimmed your case. $10 says that what you said is probably valid, but it doesn't make Oats mafia.

By far the most interesting result of the case is that Corazon agrees with it, despite having played with Oats before (more than once I think?).

Corazon, why don't you tell me in your own words why you think Oats is mafia, why don't you tell me how Oats' play is different this game than in Hiro's game. thanks bish.


Dude, this shitty logic is bad for your standards Marv. Why are you attacking me for having the same view as you? We literally just said the same thing (like the case but don't want to vote for it). You are saying that you are not going to vote because it does not make Oats mafia and I said I'd rather see Yamato lynched than Oats. What is the problem with that?

The thing is, Oats' meta is not the main part of the case. BnS laid out many reasons as to why he thinks Oats is scum and I just made a comment that I liked his case and that it had a lot of valid points in it.

Let me ask you this Marv: Would you rather I...

Say "I agree with SnB" and just vote for Oats?

or

Say "I think it's a good case but I'm going to continue to scumhunt and push my top scum read"

If you prefer #1 it would be such a glaring scumtell.



You refuse to comment on a case you like cause you are afraid of scum making a case on you for that?

Can you repeat what I just said cause I'm not sure if I can believe what you said.


I made a comment on this case. I said it was good and had valid points. It's just me being paranoid.


Scared to take a stance?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 00:18 GMT
#607
On March 11 2013 08:52 HiroPro wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Stutters695


Forget about kurumi. if he's confirmed town then there is no point in talking about him.

lynch the commentator. his filter is short so i will not bother even quoting. all he can do is ask meaningless questions and complain about how people treat him. he has no opinions on anything of value.

I already told you I'm VT, lynching me is just a bad play.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 03:48 GMT
#709
@oats: hiro has never witnessed my greatness, that's not surprising. Interesting he hasn't said anything about it since however.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 04:18 GMT
#726
On March 11 2013 12:53 Promethelax wrote:
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On March 11 2013 12:48 Stutters695 wrote:
@oats: hiro has never witnessed my greatness, that's not surprising. Interesting he hasn't said anything about it since however.


please help me young stutters
I have a plan my brother
it involves you telling me who you suspect
who do you want to get the rope 'round their neck?
I don't know who it is you want to smother.

Hiro is not the traitor we seek today. More than this I can't really say.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 16:30 GMT
#899
Seriously guys I'm not scum. Last time xfire did this that I remember he was total scummers (MtGII), last time I did this I was still town.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 16:33 GMT
#905
I've also never role-played I'm game before. My money is on xfire flipping scum.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 16:35 GMT
#906
Ebwop I'm =in
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 16:42 GMT
#916
Well I was going you'd guys get who I received but apparently not. I rolled Kenpachi. I'll take it more seriously though. I want joking about XFire though, nearly everything else was worthless trolling since that seemed to be his MO.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 16:43 GMT
#919
Ebwop was hoping not going. Fucking Swype.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 16:49 GMT
#927
On March 12 2013 01:40 Vivax wrote:
Well marv regarding that post I checked the game it was the 15th, D1 was during the 13th, it was like the 10th post, so you have an idea of stutters' general posting activity he said himself he hates Day1s and hardly posts.

On the other hand his reaction just now looks strangely defensive I'm not used to that, I mostly got OMGUSED by him for attacking him when he was town so I'll FoS stutters so I don't have to go vote in the thread

It wasn't an omgus, you were scum

I do hate d1 though, but I was hoping to rp it for fun but it'd be a waste of a day to lynch me and I do still want town to win.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 17:00 GMT
#935
Right now crossfire. This feels just like his mtg2 play without the scum claim due to different mechanics.
I did miss the last ten pages or so due to sleep so I'm going to catch up on those now but I'd vote cross 100% right now.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 17:56 GMT
#972
On March 12 2013 02:01 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 12 2013 02:00 Stutters695 wrote:
Right now crossfire. This feels just like his mtg2 play without the scum claim due to different mechanics.
I did miss the last ten pages or so due to sleep so I'm going to catch up on those now but I'd vote cross 100% right now.


ok, i get that. Tell me what you think of bugs and slOosh.

Bugs I don't know. I've never seen him play like this but his posts are really fucking dense (I'm assuming this is role related) and don't really say much. From my experiences with him (LIX and YANMM) I was expecting a tunneled push on someone and calling anyone who disagreed bad. I assumed he's good enough though that his scumplay wouldn't be this different. If anyone has a suggestion on a couple of his scumgames I'd love to check them. He seems like a good lynch but I'd pick cross over him.

Sloosh I've never played with period but his few posts are so safe it's unreal. If he's wrong about Yamato he's fine because it still makes sense to lynch and if he's right he gets huge town cred for nothing. I saw someone said this is what he does so I wouldn't be adverse to a policy lynch or vig shot.

I don't think either are as sure as Crossfire but I'd definitely go Sloosh if people can't be convinced of Cross. Bugs I think we can definitely get something if value out of.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 18:26 GMT
#1006
I'm aware of that sloosh but here's what I take issue with: you haven't pushed him at all until recently (outside of one post) and you haven't said anything else. If you had spent all your time pushing him I'd understand but you haven't, you didn't weigh in on my blatant trolling, bugs noncommittal posting or Crossfires useless posts.

Please tell us what you think about anyone but Yamato instead of coasting on something anyone reading v the thread noticed.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 19:11 GMT
#1023
Proofreading Hiro, its hlefpul.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 19:16 GMT
#1027
On March 12 2013 04:10 austinmcc wrote:
I am more inclined to lynch bugs over crossfire now. Rather than be furious about a mislynch, he waited forever and then has returned to just dick around. Calls out iamperfection out of nowhere, and it feels like he's just wasting time (and town is as well) by carrying on this discussion about iamperfection. Unless you think iamperfection is a serious lynch candidate, then I don't think we should be discussing him. Bugs isn't angry at a mislynch, bugs isn't trying to further discussion, he just tosses iamp out as a lynch target, and then when anyone disagrees with him bugs asks them "why?" or to go run an errand and find him proof. Waste of time.

Crossfire continues to be scum, but he's not actively dicking up the thread at this point. Seems like he's decided to lurk and not be so noticeable.

The hopefully-soon-to-be-mayor would like to form a concerned citizens' council/neighborhood watch organization. The goal of this organization should be to look into what BC is doing. Specifically, he has called out a number of players for not participating. And he is right to call them out. But...that is the vast majority of his filter. His scumhunting has been limited to "here's a list of lurky folks, one or more of them is probably scum." That's not really scumhunting. Says oats soft-claimed scum, nothing further about oats. Just continued sniping at absent players. I do not like this. I expect more from BC, especially where he posts
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On March 06 2013 11:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
weekend works less well for me but thats because im busy all day friday and saturday.

Starts sunday I am good.

If you can find a lot of substantive activity from him on Sunday, let me know. If you can find a lot of substantive activity from him Monday, let me know. Otherwise, citizens, please keep watch over BC. Do not let his absence pass you by. He knows how to play this game, and he has been content to drop the occasional comment about ver/foolishness/slOosh, and then discuss who he wants to lynch from that list. Scummy.



So you feel sure that WBG is scum?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 19:16 GMT
#1030
EBWOP would like an answer ASAP austin
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 19:26 GMT
#1041
On March 12 2013 04:19 Vivax wrote:
SlOosh has my full support in the yamato matter I actually can't get rid of the feeling the guy is mafia and if he was interested in making Kurumi readable: I was pushing that matter and made him post normally before he was shot, yamato didn't help at all trying to do that he preferred to pull the trigger on a guy who seemed to be under heavy suspicion at the time.

As to marv's question why yamato claimed: Me and someone else said it was probably him after the shot cause he repeatedly announced that he would take steps against Kurumi and (I think that's how his role works cause an invisible dayvig is OP and I've only seen that in LVIII where it was so strong I had a super fun time shooting you bitches out of nowhere, good times) well, it looks to me like he doesn't mention that part of his role cause it's convenient for him since people like you argue he can't be mafia cause of that.

Any other explanation for claiming dayvig on his own is stupid, especially the way he did, cause even after the announcement where he should've known Kurumi was town, he posted in a dickish way.

And the contradiction slOosh mentioned is pretty damning looks to me like yamato is throwing reads around without really believing what he says in that case.

Yamato is also posting and readable. Is it worth lynching him when he's putting himself under so much pressure over someone who is clearly scummy as shit? You can WIFOM about this all day but there are better targets than focusing on someone who shot a reasonable shot. If you believe his claim that his shot caused the modconfirm or not is definitely debatable, but surely you can see the doubt when he could have shot someone like me while I was trolling and no one would have blinked an eye and it still would have generated town-cred.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 19:28 GMT
#1045
@slOosh: Its not enough of an excuse IMO to ignore the scummy parts, but it is enough to not have the lynch be a tossup over some significantly more scummy people.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 19:41 GMT
#1064
On March 12 2013 04:31 austinmcc wrote:
Hmmmm. Citizen, why the sudden activity? Despite earlier looking like you were with me on crossfire, you never voted. Either for him to be lynched or for me to be mayor (why is nobody voting me for mayor?).

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On March 12 2013 02:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 12 2013 02:01 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 02:00 Stutters695 wrote:
Right now crossfire. This feels just like his mtg2 play without the scum claim due to different mechanics.
I did miss the last ten pages or so due to sleep so I'm going to catch up on those now but I'd vote cross 100% right now.


ok, i get that. Tell me what you think of bugs and slOosh.

Bugs I don't know. I've never seen him play like this but his posts are really fucking dense (I'm assuming this is role related) and don't really say much. From my experiences with him (LIX and YANMM) I was expecting a tunneled push on someone and calling anyone who disagreed bad. I assumed he's good enough though that his scumplay wouldn't be this different. If anyone has a suggestion on a couple of his scumgames I'd love to check them. He seems like a good lynch but I'd pick cross over him.

Sloosh I've never played with period but his few posts are so safe it's unreal. If he's wrong about Yamato he's fine because it still makes sense to lynch and if he's right he gets huge town cred for nothing. I saw someone said this is what he does so I wouldn't be adverse to a policy lynch or vig shot.

I don't think either are as sure as Crossfire but I'd definitely go Sloosh if people can't be convinced of Cross. Bugs I think we can definitely get something if value out of.
Here you pick a swath of folks who are being talked of, and yeah, they're scummy. But that's been mentioned. You were scummy on cross over the rest, but didn't vote. You thought we could get "value" out of bugs, with no explanation of what that means.

Now you're asking about my feelings on bugs and taking a stance on yamato. I read your LIX filter. Where are your thoughts? What are your feelings on me for mayor, or having a mayor? Why is your vote on nobody, and where is your head at on bugs?


That post was a direct response to Marv after I claimed Kenpachi, I just dropped my vote on Cross. I want to know if you think Bugs is a surefire hit and if not why you would vote him over Cross when you say "cross continues to be scum."

Your responses will determine what I think of you as a mayor, in general I'm not a fan of mayors because unless they hit scum they're blatant mislynch bait, but you can't really know. I said my thoughts on bugs, I think Crossfire is 100% scum because of that I'd rather wait and see with Bugs but his play definitely isn't up to what I expect from him. I would back a Bugs lynch if I can't convince town of a crossfire lynch,since his return I really haven't seen the town traits I've seen from his previous games.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 19:47 GMT
#1070
On March 12 2013 04:42 Vivax wrote:
Marv I know you usually have early scumreads and push them as town, now you prefer to hard-defend yamato and aren't dead set on an own read, let that guy defend himself, defend him with your vote please.

You're taking a chance on a lynch because of a vig shot rather than him being the scummiest person. He's active and thus will reveal himself. What do you think of Crossfire, WBG or slOosh? Surely they're scummier than Yamato if you ignore the vigshot?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 19:57 GMT
#1082
@Austin Ok, makes sense. I just wanted to hear your thoughts.

Now onto why I'm so adverse to a Yamato lynch. It's a tossup between if you believe his claim or not. There are significantly scummier people (Bugs, Xfire) and a scum lynch today reduces scum KP. Why would we leave it to something we can't confirm or deny when there are scummers amongst us who are obvious? Yamato will post and give us more info to go off of tomorrow or the day after. I'd love to hear anyone say why we shouldn't lynch the obvious scum over someone whose lynch is based off of a role we can't confirm.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#1115
On March 12 2013 05:12 Vivax wrote:
We don't talk about townreads we talk about lynching deadline is closing in and the europeans among us won't be there.

If you want to lynch me marv make your case I would love to see it, "Vivax is scum cause of a slight townread on player when asked and doesn't want to talk about it and bsbsbsbs". Bad marv = scummarv.

Anyway I want to lynch yamato and if he flips red we will have a nice bunch of other people to lynch. Other than yamato Corazon posted some weird stuff and the rest is in my filter. Bugs as policy lynch if he doesn't change his play and cause I hate Chezinu.
Others I'm not sure on.

##Vote yamato77

So fucking read. What makes you think Yamato is a better lynch than Cross?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 21:28 GMT
#1170
Just a heads up guys I'm working tonight until ten then doing acid at eleven so I'll be mia most of tonight. I'll pop in when it's slow or I'm on a smoke break but don't expect a lot of activity from me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 21:29 GMT
#1171
Ebwop times are est so I will be here for deadline also
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 21:35 GMT
#1174
Last post for a bit. Vivax I want defending Yamato because he was innocent I was defending him because Xfire is playing just like he did in mtg2. He plays like me whrre he doesn't post a lot but they have content. Except I'm his scum games where he clams up and doesn't say shit. He is scum and lynching anyone else is not a good play to me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 23:07 GMT
#1250
On March 12 2013 08:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 08:02 supersoft wrote:
marv, i think corazon is town... I prefer crossfire as day1lynch right now.
I continue rereading. WBG shouldn't be an option today. That's my final thought about wbg today. Keep him alive.


Can you tell me why? I'm wrestling with his alignment entirely unsuccessfully right now.

Because bugs is hard to read and XF isn't. If we take the free scum lynch now they lose kp and we gain time yo figure out bugs.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 12 2013 01:13 GMT
#1358
On March 12 2013 10:07 marvellosity wrote:
shrug. i'll lynch crossfire if people think bugs is a genuinely bad lynch for weird 3rd party reasons. Don't wanna kill anyone else particularly though.

Bugs feels somewhat like he did in YANMM although in YANMM he contributed then raged and went full troll for a day. Dunno what to make of that. I missed any supposed third party shenanigans so I can't really comment on that. I really don't understand the aversion to cross though.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 12 2013 01:21 GMT
#1361
On March 12 2013 10:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are we not lynching WBG.
He martyred himself.
Why not vig crossfire? I think he is more of a coinflip than WBG tbh.

Also VIvax likely scum.
Also I gotta go and will be out for the whole day.

Go read any Crossfire game if you think this is a coin flip.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 12 2013 21:15 GMT
#1898
Hey guys, just woke up. Catching up now.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 14 2013 00:17 GMT
#2665
@Prom obviously the absence is no bueno but otherwise I don't see where you're getting a difference in my play.

Since you mentioned vivax also, I also haven't read that normal game you're talking about but this feels way more town than like his scum play in YANMM.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 14 2013 17:07 GMT
#3032
On March 14 2013 13:53 Acrofales wrote:
Also, the following people have dropped off the face of the game: risk.nuke, HiroPro and Stutters.

@all 3: give me your thoughts on foolishness, marv, yamato and cora.

Ver's absense is going beyond just lurking and into complete inactivity. He's cruising for a modkill. Giving up on even trying with him. If he makes another minimal throwaway effort today, we lynch him tomorrow as the scum he is: If he doesn't then he gets replaced/modkilled. No point worrying about him now.


I'm awake now and caught up.

Foolishness: I'm going to read some of his past games but I'm not sure I buy his trap. It's really his only post of value (aside from his meta analysis on Vivax based off of one of his scum games). He makes decent points but essentially all he said on Yamato was the vig shot was anti-town and so was the disappearing. His crossfire case is a bit better but again his whole case is based around an action and associations. If Yamato or cross flips town then everything in that post is random conjecture without any proof and he'll still have contributed nothing. He might make these types of cases all the time but I need to check it. I'm leaning scum but not my first choice.

My gut tells me town on Marv. He saw the same things on Cross that I saw d1 and really seemed to be the only other person really pushing for Cross when it was headed towards WBG around 24h in. Through his filter I don't see nearly as much jumping around as people say (he's jumped between his top targets which i don't remember him doing quite so much but he's got reasoning behind it).


Post on the other two coming up.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 14 2013 18:42 GMT
#3083
I'm out for a bit so I can't check filters for specifics but sorry version on Yamato is you guys are giving too much weight to that vig shot imo. Misguided, yes, however I would have considered vigging him if I had a shot and I'm not seeing any scum motivation that's stronger than town motivation for it.

Cora has slipped under my radar all game so I'll have to fully check his filter.

Also since it won't affect if the shot goes off if I claim this I was added to a group with one vig shot if the entire group agrees on it (not informed of who the members are outside of the leader knowing who he added). I'd encourage you to message me post lynch with who you want to target so I can see if i agree since as we progress and you add more people the odds of actually shooting go down dramatically. If I disagree I'll say who I'm targeting in thread and you can either go with that or hold the shot.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 14 2013 18:46 GMT
#3085
Ebwop sorry version = short version
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 14 2013 19:10 GMT
#3088
Also since its the only option I agree with (although I still think Crossfire needs to hang) ##vote: Foolishness
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 14 2013 20:11 GMT
#3091
Arco can you expand on why you think if Foolishness is scum cross must be town? I'm not following that leap.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 14 2013 22:08 GMT
#3115
On March 15 2013 05:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 05:53 Acrofales wrote:
On March 15 2013 05:11 Stutters695 wrote:
Arco can you expand on why you think if Foolishness is scum cross must be town? I'm not following that leap.

Xfire fired a nuke at Foolish. Xfire didn't know the nuke was fake (unless Xfire, Sloosh and Foolish are all scum together and this was a GIANT TRAP).

Therefore, if Foolish is scum, and Xfire is scum, then Xfire fired a nuke at his scumbuddy... out of nowhere and for no apparent reason. Not a likely scenario.


Yes, it's pretty obvious, the most interesting thing about it is that Stutters couldn't work out this logic for himself. It's not a leap... is Stutters just not reading? Crossfire's filter isn't very long to miss ##Nuke Foolishness

Obviously I saw the nukes.
I was thinking it wouldn't be too far of a stretch that if both were scum they'd obviously both know they both got nukes and assumed they were fake but if one happened to be real he'd get crazy town cred for it. Additionally given foolishness' post about not liking busses when he's scum it seemed like a distinct possibility to me. I'm probably just being paranoid though.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 16:17 GMT
#3557
Vivax does your role have a veteran power built into it?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 16:23 GMT
#3558
Also Marv after everything that has transpired, where do you sit on Cross? He still hasn't done anything but I'm having trouble seeing how he would fit into a Sumatran at this point.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 16:29 GMT
#3562
On March 16 2013 01:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Vivax does your role have a veteran power built into it?


First time I see you since jurassic and you ask me a question about my role that shouldn't concern you at all if you're town.

Dafuq

Just answer please.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 16:46 GMT
#3576
only issue with that list is I'm not scum. I can see where you're coming from though.

Anyway since I told the person I have to agree with in order to use the 1kp this cell has, looks like you picked a good target in your message, let's go with that

##vote: Vivax
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 16:58 GMT
#3583
On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:46 Stutters695 wrote:
only issue with that list is I'm not scum. I can see where you're coming from though.

Anyway since I told the person I have to agree with in order to use the 1kp this cell has, looks like you picked a good target in your message, let's go with that

##vote: Vivax


NOooo! Shoot FOOLISHNESS!

I'd rather let a regular vig do it so it isn't announced and it doesn't get rb'ed. Worst case if foolish lives we just lynch him again and coordinate to put a scummer in second again just in case it's an indefinite thing (I also can't know if the other person already locked in his shot but if he hasn't he can vote differently, we won't shoot and he can add you and we shoot tomorrow.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 17:08 GMT
#3587
On March 16 2013 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:58 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:46 Stutters695 wrote:
only issue with that list is I'm not scum. I can see where you're coming from though.

Anyway since I told the person I have to agree with in order to use the 1kp this cell has, looks like you picked a good target in your message, let's go with that

##vote: Vivax


NOooo! Shoot FOOLISHNESS!

I'd rather let a regular vig do it so it isn't announced and it doesn't get rb'ed. Worst case if foolish lives we just lynch him again and coordinate to put a scummer in second again just in case it's an indefinite thing (I also can't know if the other person already locked in his shot but if he hasn't he can vote differently, we won't shoot and he can add you and we shoot tomorrow.


Ok. I worry that we don't have a regular vig, but I guess the announce/roleblock thing makes some sense. And I do love me a bit of Vivax death.

It's part of your role that you have to announce it in thread then?

It's kind of weird. I guess someone had a town read on me because it's their role that's being used. They added me to a sleeper cell with a 1shot vig power. I assume each night they can add a new person (I got the notification pm with the day post). Each phase the leader can send one pm through the mods to the members of the cell and each night we vote on who to kill. If everyone in the cells votes match the shot goes off on that target(I don't know if it's instantly or at night resolution, I assume resolution).I announced it because it was obvious that's what was doing when I asked if he had a vet power and to make sure the leader and I were on the same page, but I wouldn't know if the bullet fizzed if I didn't know about vivax powers.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 17:56 GMT
#3593
Host called it a sleeper cell, but I was told nothing about an alt-wincon(otherwise I wouldn't have brought this up). Other than my notification PM and the one message he sent me (saying he liked the plan I proposed and who he wanted to shoot) I know nothing about it. Based off of what I know (I got my PM at d2 post) and that his message was directly in response to what I said in thread I'm assuming it's just me and him right now and it said nothing about if he gets a vote (I assumed he does). Votes are done via PM.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 18:02 GMT
#3597
@Marv I don't know how the shot gets carried out but hopefully it will be done by the anon leader(I don't know who he is even). All I know is that the cell has a 1shot kp.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 18:04 GMT
#3599
Hopefully he hasn't sent in his vote. I'll try PMing the host yo see if I can change, if not it's out if my control.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 18:48 GMT
#3606
MY VOTE IS CHANGED TO FOOLISH, PLEASE DO THE SAME GUY WHO ADDED ME
Stutters695
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2610 Posts
March 15 2013 20:21 GMT
#3651
Town cross post count usually does seem really similar to mine. His complete lack of any content is what makes him scum, he's just more involved as town.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 20:51 GMT
#3665
The quality should show you something is wrong. I'd rather lynch sloosh over him just because if sloosh is scum it essentially confirms Cross as scum since the nuke would be his only saving grace.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 20:53 GMT
#3666
On March 16 2013 05:43 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 05:25 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 05:24 austinmcc wrote:
No, never read WLIAA all the way through, apart from checking some filters when they were relevant to other games.


Just take a browse through Crossfire's filter and look at the quality of his posts.

Remember in PU he had a mason claim in his back pocket.

I was about to say that PU is not good comparison material, because he was confirmed town due to mason, so he could pretty much get away with murder.

In MTG2 I pegged him as scum ridiculously easily. So he has either improved his game, or he's town. On D1 he looked like scum, but on D2 he had some insightful stuff, mainly about the nukes.

Lets kill the scum we know before worrying about their partners. Associations should help... and the Cora associations are untrustworthy. I tried working from the assumption that Cora is town, but I just tie myself into wifom knots where I have conflicting beliefs about Foolishness and the use of the death miller thing. The whole exercise seems pointless and I end up agreeing that we should just ignore the whole flip and work from our reads without Cora associations, at least for now.

Kill Foolishness. Work from there.

Unless scum has a medic/he is also vet(doubt it) he should be dead if the cell leader has read the thread at all. Might as well treat his as dead.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 16 2013 00:39 GMT
#3703
Ok, this might be unnecessary if you've been following along but apparently sloosh hasn't so here's a phone post addressing his case:

Pushing Crossfire: I didn't post a formal case but I spent the entirety of my time in the thread arguing about how lynching anyone else was stupid d1 when we would have directly affected scum kp with a crossfire lynch. If you don't consider that pushing i don't know what to tell you.

"High level play": My point in my quote about you was that you had only commented on Yamato, someone who was obviously controversial so no matter the outcome you'd wind up benefiting (if you are scum, which is what I was looking for). Like i said in another post it was your refusal to comment on anything but Yamato that I found scummy, not that you weighed in on him.

Unnatural ... everything: Again you're misrepresenting what I said. I said foolish's case on Cross was based on a single action and the rest on unconfirmed associations. Marv had mentioned how cross posts and quoted how everything Cross had posted was straight fluff.

I'll let you in on a secret also, the shot was directed at Cross, I was hoping if scum had a way to save they'd pop it on Vivax and sniping Cross would be easy. If you read the post I type ##Shoot: Vivax in, the sentence before it I tell the leader to go with his choice and don't actually name Vivax. That was intentional.

I didn't do it with Foolishness because I announced in the thread he should switch his vote to foolish and had already announced the vote was to make my intention known, thus a second vote would serve no purpose.

It's funny you mention inventing stuff to make someone seem scummy because that sure feels like what you're doing.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 16 2013 01:11 GMT
#3706
On March 16 2013 09:25 Acrofales wrote:
K. I was starting on my nightly reads and realized that I don't trust Stutters' sleeper cell to do the job. Really, if there is any other vig, they should totally be on Foolishness.

Basically, there is no guarantee that Stutters or his partner are not scum. Yes, I have a bit of a town read on Stutters, but no clue what this sleeper cell business is, and sleeper cell doesn't sound town aligned.

Destroy Foolishness. It's better to be safe than sorry. Shoot Foolishness.

This was part of my reason for wanting to shoot cross. I got the message saying that he wanted to kill cross six minutes after deadline when hours before the lynch people were leaning town on Cross due to how events played out. I was hesitant to pull the trigger on that until Marv said he was suspicious of Cross.

I also still can't explain why he would choose me over a strong town player unless he had hopes of getting me to help him shoot a townie that no one would question. We'll see if he switched to foolish and go from there I guess.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 16 2013 03:28 GMT
#3763
Well I got a notification saying my sleeper cell KP has been used so that explains one of the KP.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 16 2013 03:33 GMT
#3767
DP you might not have noticed but with Cora the announcement was twelve hours after the flip.

I find it hard to believe that a death framer would have multiple shots however so I doubt we'll see anything. :/
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 16 2013 04:19 GMT
#3779
@DPs case:

First, Cross wasn't one of my accusers any time during d1.

This was probably lost in filter reading since I don't quote that much on my phone but nearly every d1 post (after I stopped rping) was either a question or a direct response to someone.

You also haven't played with me recently (have you?). Themed and LIX have been much more sheepish than previous games. I'd also suggest you check YANMM where, despite being dumb, I tunnel the shit out of Vivax once I'm sure he's scum (and he's my main read before as well).

I noticed a distinct lack of mentioning Crossfire at all. Now that foolish is flipped and he doesn't have the excuse he targeted scum with a nuke, what do you think about him DP?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 16 2013 19:50 GMT
#3953
On March 16 2013 22:31 Vivax wrote:
I'll try to let this basically be my last post and I don't mind calling you all bad, so beware. I think the game's lost anyway but you can keep humping marv's leg before he uses it to kick you under a bus (town and mafia alike)

It's a realistic scenario mafia goes all-in on this one, they just need a mislynch to win the game. Corazon was town and even if you don't think so you should stick to worst-case scenario to make your decisions in.
With this, yamato looks somewhat better. I'd have expected him to hard-defend marv all the way as scum since it would have been pretty easy.
I still don't believe he's town however simply for his play but if he's bussing his teammate I'm fine with it, he's going to find some reason to change his mind anyway in case town goes the wrong road again.

We had 2 fake roleclaims from marv with this (Cop and medic)
Scum preferred to kill village idiot dandel instead of simply doublestacking marv? Take your pick.

Marv said we lynch him at lylo? We lynch him at lylo. By his own words. If he doesn't stick to them it's just another lie.

Prplhz is likely marv's scumbuddy cause marv poked at his scumslip (in a not very damning way) and then dropped going after it when prplhz claimed to have read it somewhere. somefuckingwhere. Day2 marv refused to comment on both this and his acrofales read and still doesn't pay attention to acrofales. So I think these guys are connected by alignment. It's not my only point but we should go into that later.

Stutters has to claim where his sleeper cell came from. Who contacted him, cause that guy (the "mason") is likely scum, might also just be bad but have to evaluate first. However contacting stutters shows it was some kind of guy who tried to talk the weak of spirit into doing bad things. Reveal the snake.

I'm catching up now but this isn't how this works vivax. He chose me, hasn't revealed himself and hasn't sent me a second message. The only thing I haven't posted in the thread about it is the first message because I already said what it said. "GOOD PLAN. AGREED. VOTE XFIRE."

If someone else was added to the cell they should claim it and if they don't the leader should message me in the night with who it was (assuming we make it there).
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 17 2013 00:10 GMT
#3981
Marv: question for you. You said it's very easy to be sure if you're mafia, but you didn't find it suspicious at all how sure I was of Crossfires guilt? Other people have been hammering me for it if they make a case on me but as soon as I stopped trolling and talked about Cross it has felt like you lost all suspicion in me. Why?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 17 2013 03:18 GMT
#3994
On March 17 2013 11:35 yamato77 wrote:
Marv is only as caught as I can convince town he is.

Right now, we only have a few votes on him. It is imperative I make sure he gets lynched.

You are on my radar for how you've handled this today, Austin.

Question Yam, how sold are you on Marv? 100%? I would bet money on Cross flipping scum, this is in no way at all his town play? Why not take the easy lynch to ensure we're not fucked into tomorrow? If it comes down to Marv vs anyone but Cross I'll go Marv but what worries you about Cross?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 17 2013 22:21 GMT
#4140
I'm torn between vivax and Marv. Seriously guys, we should be voting Cross for a free scumlynch which will buy us a day. We need to consolidate though so I'm going vivax for now. Going to weigh them though.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 17 2013 22:27 GMT
#4143
On March 18 2013 07:24 Vivax wrote:
Hey stutters thanks for losing us the game and then voting for the guy defending the townie you shot.
Maybe do something right for once?

Trying to fake emotion so we think you're actually town?

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 17 2013 22:54 GMT
#4155
I haven't had a scumread on either if them all game. However Marv is playing unlike how I've ever seen him play and Vivax I think is being Vivax. Despite disagreeing with his reads for the most part they feel sincere, unlike what I've seen of his scum games.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 17 2013 23:53 GMT
#4187
We need town yo agree or scum can just last minute switch and end it. Does anyone honestly think Cross is town?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 00:31 GMT
#4195
Marv: Because you've been all over the fucking place and between you and Vivax I think you're more likely. Why are you all pushing DP over the sure lynch I'm Cross? You claimed to have voted Cross after DP in your filter yet the vote is MIA from the voting thread. What's going on?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 00:36 GMT
#4196
Why are you still pushing over the sure lynch in cross

Fucking Swype
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 01:04 GMT
#4206
On March 17 2013 09:10 Stutters695 wrote:
Marv: question for you. You said it's very easy to be sure if you're mafia, but you didn't find it suspicious at all how sure I was of Crossfires guilt? Other people have been hammering me for it if they make a case on me but as soon as I stopped trolling and talked about Cross it has felt like you lost all suspicion in me. Why?

Also would like an answer to this.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 01:15 GMT
#4217
On March 18 2013 10:06 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 10:04 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 17 2013 09:10 Stutters695 wrote:
Marv: question for you. You said it's very easy to be sure if you're mafia, but you didn't find it suspicious at all how sure I was of Crossfires guilt? Other people have been hammering me for it if they make a case on me but as soon as I stopped trolling and talked about Cross it has felt like you lost all suspicion in me. Why?

Also would like an answer to this.


i've had other things to worry about. there are people more suspicious than you and i don't see why you'd run around claiming you have KP that is influenceable by town if you were mafia (of course it's convenient that i told you to shot a townie, but you weren't to know that)

I worded that question pretty poorly, but not a big deal that I'm less concerned about given how long we have left. If we make it to night I'll clarify. How come you never actually voted Cross when you said you were going to?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 01:30 GMT
#4235
On March 18 2013 10:20 marvellosity wrote:
ok. So DP is convinced that Hiro is town. The likelihood that the check is accurate is fairly high (say 80%)

so let's kill Vivax. it's really, really easy.

##unvote
##Vote: Vivax

So your scumread says someone is town and that's a point in favor of Hiro being town? What about the possibility (assuming you aren't scum) of Hiro DP being scum and this being that all in attempt you mentioned, just on Vivax instead of you?

This doesn't feel like the scum Vivax I've seen and it feels like you're just trying to avoid a lynch of yourself instead of convincing anyone of your scumread. In non-lylo I'd understand but a mislynch on anyone else is just as bad as on you. Where's the effort I'd expect from someone of your caliber?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 01:32 GMT
#4236
On March 18 2013 10:26 HiroPro wrote:
The names are just what kita comes up with ased on the powers. Keep squirming vivax

What?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 01:59 GMT
#4272
On March 18 2013 10:33 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 10:30 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 18 2013 10:20 marvellosity wrote:
ok. So DP is convinced that Hiro is town. The likelihood that the check is accurate is fairly high (say 80%)

so let's kill Vivax. it's really, really easy.

##unvote
##Vote: Vivax

So your scumread says someone is town and that's a point in favor of Hiro being town? What about the possibility (assuming you aren't scum) of Hiro DP being scum and this being that all in attempt you mentioned, just on Vivax instead of you?

This doesn't feel like the scum Vivax I've seen and it feels like you're just trying to avoid a lynch of yourself instead of convincing anyone of your scumread. In non-lylo I'd understand but a mislynch on anyone else is just as bad as on you. Where's the effort I'd expect from someone of your caliber?


what's wrong with you? USE YOUR BRAIN

1) I think DP is mafia
2) I've mostly thought Hiro is town
3) Hiro claims a redcheck on Vivax
4) Vivax DOES NOT WANT TO LYNCH HIRO
5) My mafia read (DP) assumes without thinking about it that Hiro is town (and therefore he probably is)

why are you not reading and understanding what's going on here? please think about what's happening here.

I'll spell it out very simply.

DP (who I think is mafia) is saying Hiro is town. He is saying that we cannot trust the red check. Despite the fact there is a very high chance the check is legitimate. USE YOUR BRAIN YOU LURKY MOFO.

(P.S. I used 'mofo' instead of something insulting. self-control yo)

This is what I was looking for ahole (:p). I understood what you were saying but I'm just not as sold on Hiro being town as you are. I wanted to see how you'd react since you've been so calm and that worries the shit out of me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 02:04 GMT
#4277
Well town has to consolidate. I don't like Mocstas reasoning for voting Vivax since when I saw a scum Vivax he was aggressive as shit and Marv is actually giving a shit now I feel a bit better about this. I still think not lynching Cross is retarded but we can always get him tomorrow if we make it.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 02:28 GMT
#4289
If scum switch to Marv for a free win because we couldn't consolidate in LYLO I'm going to be very disappointed.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 02:32 GMT
#4290
This is more nerve wracking than being endgamed in YANMM.
Stutters695
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2610 Posts
March 18 2013 02:47 GMT
#4297
So anyone care to claim the steal or whatever happened to Oats vote?
Stutters695
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2610 Posts
March 18 2013 08:23 GMT
#4334
On March 18 2013 16:37 risk.nuke wrote:
HiroPro, Crossfire99, prplhz, Stutters695, marvellosity, DarthPunk
5/6 of these are mafia.
But we will probably loose if we don't have any kp or other ways to stop their 3kp before dawn.

If you think I'm scum you haven't been following along at all.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 10:14 GMT
#4338
Ugh, well regrettably this is the first time I've gotten to sit down and do real analysis to the quality I'd like. I'll be at work until the night deadline, so I'll be here but not able to post anything super long, so here is what I think if we make it through the nigh and in case I die:

risk.nuke is scum.

Twice now this game, he has shown absolutely zero interest in who gets lynched. Day 1 he had a worthless vote on slOosh + Show Spoiler [here] +
On March 11 2013 17:14 risk.nuke wrote:
How scummy would scum Acrofales look if Acrofales did roll scum?

However those who would call themselves my friends still will not see.

If yamato is town sloosh looks terrible (or rather more terrible).
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 13:04 slOosh wrote:
u kids so bad

a) yamato uses mod-confirm check day one on kurumi
b) yamato then day vigs mod-confirmed town kurumi
c) people complain and call yamato bad but don't vote him
d) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
e) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
f) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town

srsly if anybody doen't realize this and considers themselves good, well, maybe you need to bend over to see just how low you really are.

##Vote: yamato

These are exactly how a mafia accusing a dumb townie post would look. and in combination with his lack of scumhunting everything it makes my scum-o-meter beep.

. What that post doesn't show is that slOosh had only posted once. Of course he hasn't really scumhunted (although he had done more in his one post than Risk has to this point).

risk now ignores the rest of D1 outside of 1 liners on Vivax (says he's nothing special) and Yamato (says he agrees with prplhz on thinking the shot wasn't scummy).

Day 2 he actually showed some interest in Foolishness and the fake nukes which felt townish, and since he actually had a a nuke and had an idea of how they worked he dropped his scumread on slOosh which is reasonable.

What concerned me about this D2 play was his lack of a commitment to anything else. He actually mentions other scumreads, albeit slightly. He says "he might be swayed to lynch Crossfire or Cora then says "Actually, I'll revalue my secondary lynch candidates. TBC" but never follows up. He mentions he's unsure of Acro but only when prompted by SnB. Doesn't mention Crossfire again and only implies Cora is scum in + Show Spoiler [this post] +
On March 15 2013 16:37 risk.nuke wrote:
So foolish actually was unlynchable. I don't think he's town from how he's playing and but now I'm not to sure he's scum based on him actually being unlynchable with the general consensus to kill him and letting cdg get killed in his stead. Which leaves third party.


He asks Greymist to clarify about the daypost, although if he is scum he knows about the death framer already so I don't put my credence in that.

Day 3
He says he's up for lynching DP on the basis of "you can actually tell who care or don't" implying he doesn't see DP caring. He mentions DP throughout the day but doesn't say shit except DP is scum. He never expands upon why DP is scum, just that he is. Doesn't offer any reasons to try and get DP lynched, just places his vote and says "guys lynch DP."He makes no effort to consolidate onto someone he has since said is scum (Marv) or convince other people to do the same.

Even his night post with his list of scum. Still no reasons, not a single fuck given about the game, just more stating of who should be lynched without a single reason.

I'll have more but I want to get this posted in case anyone is up. I'd love to hear thoughts.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 11:31 GMT
#4342
On March 18 2013 20:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 16:37 risk.nuke wrote:
HiroPro, Crossfire99, prplhz, Stutters695, marvellosity, DarthPunk
5/6 of these are mafia.
But we will probably loose if we don't have any kp or other ways to stop their 3kp before dawn.


How is sloosh town.
How is Prp and stutters scum?

Like you are just throwing out a list of names.

DUMB/LAZY.


What do you think makes Prp town? I was about to write my thoughts on him in case I get shot tonight and I don't see a lot of pro-town stuff at all. The only thing that I can see making him town is necessity due to people who pretty much have to be scummers.

Day 1 he didn't do anything but say he'd be ok with a lynch on bugs who he said he didn't think was scum.

Day 2 he posted a case on BC based off of some pretty large stretches of what a meta read is and a misrepresentation of a BC post (implied BC wasn't sure why he was lynching Ver when he said it wasn't a policy lynch, but he only used policy lynch in response to someone [I believe Yamato]) and he really hasn't posted any reads since, just some back and forth with Marv.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 15:33 GMT
#4364
On March 18 2013 22:54 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 18 2013 22:47 Acrofales wrote:
I didn't go to the doctor. I talked to my flatmate and she said something similar happens when she uses the computer for too long without her reading glasses. I've never had eye fatigue before (and I've been using computers intensively for about 20 years), but I guess it's possible. I did spend all day at the computer.

So I just took a break from the computer and then went to bed. I'll go to an optician, but for the moment it all seems well




Anyway, I think this means we lost? Only power roles can stop us from losing? If not, then HiroPro clearly scum. Anybody buying his framer bullshit is stupid. A 1-word description of that role? Makes no sense. Lynch HiroPro.

His buddies are DarthPunk and Crossfire99.

Final two are somewhere in risk.nuke, sloosh, yamato and marvellosity.

I particularly don't like risk.nuke's play today. Yesterday I had him as an either/or with DP, but I reconsider. His push onto DP was not forceful at all... and now, with his 0 thread presence he comes in and yells how stupid town is for lynching Vivax. Where was he when this was all going on? My guess: giggling at town's stupidity in the scumQT.


i've basically stopped playing because i've been so awful this game but

i still think 4 scum is what's being searched for, not 5

risk is probably town.


Did you disagree with my case on him marv?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 18 2013 15:34 GMT
#4366
Or rather since you obviously did, what makes you think otherwise?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 19 2013 02:59 GMT
#4400
In case I die but the game goes on. I rbd risk tonight.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 19 2013 03:05 GMT
#4403
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 19 2013 03:07 GMT
#4405
no lol. I would have posted gg or something in that case
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 19 2013 13:51 GMT
#4522
Sorry for shooting you Foolish

@whoever said I was chosen for being easily manipulated I had figured that I was probably added by either a third party or scum when I couldn't figure out why I would be added over a stronger player except that they wanted someone who would go with their idea. Obviously it was a good choice since I was all for shooting Crops until Marv convinced me into foolish.
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