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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 15:41 GMT
#861
On March 12 2013 00:37 austinmcc wrote:

Because stutters is stutters, and I have played with him. Crossfire had posted and it was ALL fluff (and pretty much still is). slOosh is, again, someone who has impressed me as a townie, and someone i KNOW is generally lurky/less active as scum. Remember me checking him in parallel worlds? Same thing here. An uninterested slOosh is a scumslOosh imo, and as of yet we have no indication that his disinterest is personality-related and not because he's scum.

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
Which points are good? Which make Oats scum? How is Oats' play different this game to Hiro's game, or how is it similar to LIX where he was mafia?
Seeing as how you initially responded to snb with summary statements like oats was town, felt like townoats, or whatever, I don't like how you are requesting others to go do the work of digging up oats's posts from past games and comparing his posts to others in this game and pastoats. You chose not to do that.


So you think what Stutters has posted so far ISN'T all fluff?

Why would I dig up posts to prove someone is town, unless they're getting lynched imminently? Corazon is giving a mafia-read on someone and I'm asking him to back it up with evidence. Fairly simple.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 15:42 GMT
#862
I'm also not asking him to dig up posts, I'm simply asking for his analysis. Corazon and I literally just finished a game with town-Oats about a week ago.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
March 11 2013 15:43 GMT
#863
Austin has a point about sloosh his one contribution isn't really a contribution. We dont really know what yamato's role and he could very well be telling the truth.

The only thing sloosh has done is throw dirt on yamato and he isn't doing anything else.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 11 2013 15:44 GMT
#864
Moving on, lynch candidates.

Crossfire is still scummy.
slOosh's 3 posts ain't much, still doesn't look like townslOosh.

I would like to be elected mayor. If elected mayor, I promise to go back in time to right now, and establish a Blue Ribbon Panel on the issue of wbg. I found parts of his posting townie, but he has dipped out after the whole kurumi bit, and I have undervaluated the scumminess of someone dipping out after key moment and lying low through pressure. Would anyone like to be on my Blue Ribbon Panel? The minutes of this first meeting will most likely contain discussion of how scumbugs responds to pressure. I remember him being town and lynched D1 in paranoia, and he was somewhat angry at getting lynched, lashing out at town for being dumb. Here there is none of that. Does bugs always get angry and lash out at town when lynched? or only mislynched? (I think I only have one game with scum bugs).

Pending the results of at least that topic of discussion, I would consider lynching bugs.

An associate of mine has submitted a file concerning mocsta and corazon. I will review that file, but as of now do not want to make either of them my lynch.

Remember: a mayoral vote for austinmcc is a mayoral vote for austinmcc.

Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 15:46 GMT
#865
Here is Stutters' filter from LIX: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344

Here is Stutters' filter here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400204&user=276621

Do you think they look similar?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
March 11 2013 15:46 GMT
#866
On March 12 2013 00:44 austinmcc wrote:
Moving on, lynch candidates.

Crossfire is still scummy.
slOosh's 3 posts ain't much, still doesn't look like townslOosh.

I would like to be elected mayor. If elected mayor, I promise to go back in time to right now, and establish a Blue Ribbon Panel on the issue of wbg. I found parts of his posting townie, but he has dipped out after the whole kurumi bit, and I have undervaluated the scumminess of someone dipping out after key moment and lying low through pressure. Would anyone like to be on my Blue Ribbon Panel? The minutes of this first meeting will most likely contain discussion of how scumbugs responds to pressure. I remember him being town and lynched D1 in paranoia, and he was somewhat angry at getting lynched, lashing out at town for being dumb. Here there is none of that. Does bugs always get angry and lash out at town when lynched? or only mislynched? (I think I only have one game with scum bugs).

Pending the results of at least that topic of discussion, I would consider lynching bugs.

An associate of mine has submitted a file concerning mocsta and corazon. I will review that file, but as of now do not want to make either of them my lynch.

Remember: a mayoral vote for austinmcc is a mayoral vote for austinmcc.


you not being to clear though Mr. Mayor.

If elected who would be the top target.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 15:46 GMT
#867
On March 12 2013 00:46 marvellosity wrote:
Here is Stutters' filter from LIX: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344

Here is Stutters' filter here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400204&user=276621

Do you think they look similar?


er... LIX: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&user=276621
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 11 2013 15:48 GMT
#868
On March 12 2013 00:41 marvellosity wrote:
So you think what Stutters has posted so far ISN'T all fluff?

Why would I dig up posts to prove someone is town, unless they're getting lynched imminently? Corazon is giving a mafia-read on someone and I'm asking him to back it up with evidence. Fairly simple.
Frankly, my future office was unconcerned with stutters's posts. I did not realize there had been as many as there had. Will poke at past stutters games, but at first glance even the fluffy posts don't strike me as anything more than stutters gonna stutters.

They are fluffy, yes. But I am used to seeing very little activity from stutters, whereas I'm used to seeing very little activity from scumslOosh, but not town. stutters plays how he plays, slOosh has two different modes.
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 15:49 GMT
#869
yes, I wasn't asking you about slOosh. Hence the lack of questions about slOosh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 11 2013 15:52 GMT
#870
Ninjaed. I'll look at those.

iamp, top target right now is Crossfire. He's got my vote. His return hasn't been anything but more of the same. He's had a couple people say they're suspicious of him, or that he's scummy, but he's not gaining votes (just like me and my mayoral campaign ). That is a bad indicator to me.

bugs is a possible target, but I want to actually talk that one out. I know that I overvalue townie posts sometimes and discard someone's reaction to pressure over time, or other stuff like that. But, at the very least, I am unfamiliar with scum bugs, and I want to know what his normal reaction to pressure as scum is. As town, he got very angry in Paranoia, and it's not happening here. So it's likely he's scum, but I'm still slightly hung up on this, and seeing as my mayoral campaign hinges on lynching scum, I don't want to accidentally mislynch. Therefore, would rather go with crossfire atm.
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 15:52 GMT
#871
For example, from LIX where he was lurkmaster Day 1 especially:

On January 22 2013 04:58 Stutters695 wrote:
I voted toad because his style seems much easier to read than yours, chezinus, or palmars to me. I even was doubting Palmar after the d1 lynch, and I had a scumread on you that was wrong almost the entire game. Toads style feels much more like my own and I think that will help us analyze why he would do whatever he does after becoming mayor.


On January 23 2013 08:24 Stutters695 wrote:
So you knew he was a smurf due to his silence? Obviously we know he is one now but newbies have entered reel games before and just been overwhelmed. Not a huge deal either way though.

Since you said you said you wouldn't want a smurf due to readability why wouldn't you vote for someone like Toad who is readable instead of supporting Chez? You say that it let you see if Chez was more readable but isn't that the exact same thing as voting a smurf except with a smurf not only does it offer the same chance to read them but also offers a chance of identifying who they are (which you implied you'd like to do)?


First post is at least giving explanation for why he's voting, second post is bothh questioning Axle and making a perceptive point along with it.

We're lacking even this basic engagement with the thread from Stutters so far.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 15:53 GMT
#872
btw austin, how exactly would I go about voting you for mayor? ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 11 2013 15:56 GMT
#873
patience, marv. You keep catching me during meetings.

The two look different. I remember stutters posting infrequently that game, but his posts contained questions, thoughts on the mayoral campaigns, ideas of what he was looking for in a mayor. So yes, I would say that the two games are different. He has a kenpachi-esque post here, indicating perhaps that he is kenpachi, but he has neither purely lurked or purely trolled, his other posts feel more fluffy than kenpachi-y, and much much more fluffy than in LIX.
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 15:58 GMT
#874
By the way, I don't disagree with you about slOosh. I really really want him to get his ass back in this thread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 11 2013 16:01 GMT
#875
On March 12 2013 00:58 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, I don't disagree with you about slOosh. I really really want him to get his ass back in this thread.

I don't really see how you could

On March 12 2013 00:53 marvellosity wrote:
btw austin, how exactly would I go about voting you for mayor? ^^

Mayor: austinmcc

a vote for austinmcc is a vote for austinmcc
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 16:02 GMT
#876
On March 12 2013 01:01 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 00:58 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, I don't disagree with you about slOosh. I really really want him to get his ass back in this thread.

I don't really see how you could



you know very well we can disagree about absolutely everything
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 11 2013 16:03 GMT
#877
Wait wtf, how has BUGS DONE ANYTHING IN THIS GAME. Like how are you seeing scum bugs?

Every other weird poster has been somewhat useful. even slOosh has been more useful than Bugs. Town bugs is useful.
This bugs in not, and it bugs me.
No gg, No skill.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 11 2013 16:04 GMT
#878
On March 12 2013 01:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wait wtf, how has BUGS DONE ANYTHING IN THIS GAME. Like how are you seeing scum bugs?

Every other weird poster has been somewhat useful. even slOosh has been more useful than Bugs. Town bugs is useful.
This bugs in not, and it bugs me.
I think you are missing some words/a word?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 11 2013 16:07 GMT
#879
On March 12 2013 01:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 01:01 austinmcc wrote:
On March 12 2013 00:58 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, I don't disagree with you about slOosh. I really really want him to get his ass back in this thread.

I don't really see how you could



you know very well we can disagree about absolutely everything
This is true.
Fe fi fo fum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
March 11 2013 16:10 GMT
#880
VE you complain to marv that he didn't read your case on me yet you have failed to comment on the counterpoints I brought against it, so bring me your updated case where you actually show what you say by quoting it for now it's all just a bunch of lies and misrepresentations you are not willing to correct when pointed out in proper way by me
(You know with quotes, "he's scum cause bsbsbsbs, and we should bsbsbsbs" sorry iamp I stole this from you cause it's awesome )

Your 180° switch on Cora marv pointed out is strange and it was a reaction to you being contradicted in multiple points, rather looks like you try to stay lined up with the things marv says rather than believing them yourself. Also you baaaaah and uuuuugh a lot when you're scum but this is an experimental heuristic.

As to Corazon he showed up to attack marv saying he was shitting up the thread and didn't push neither Oats nor yamato, he didn't show up when I proposed the yamato lynch in a very obvious way either which should be his main priority so to me it looks like he's not serious about his reads and only comes out when he feels threatened.
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