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yamato77
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yamato77
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What have you done this game but needlessly tunnel me and defend yourself? Jack shit. Get off your high horse and play the god damn game. | ||
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yamato77
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Read Vivax' filter from LVIII where he was scum with Foolish to debunk Foolishness' analysis of Vivax' scum meta. Read the filter of Foolish from that game to see a fucking carbon copy of his filter this game. Both are likely mafia together. | ||
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yamato77
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Marv started odd to me, especially with his ridiculously noncommittal stance regarding myself to begin with. However, he hard defended me when scum had zero motive to do so and a lot of town wanted my head, so I don't think he's mafia right now. The rest if his play is pro-town but that is how I expect mafia Marv to play. He does look highly involved currently, so that's a point in his immediate favor. He's still on my radar, though, if he does some weird stuff. I haven't filtered prplhz, but his start was similar to his scum start from LIX, so he's worth a look to see if he shaped up or not while I was gone. Ver is a vigi shot. I can't tell whether the scummy tunnelers, Sloosh and Cora, are actually convinced I am mafia or are faking it. If I believe one of them, it's Cora, but it's only because I've seen him do something similar n0 and d1 of Duel Mafia. Sloosh I expect more from as town than this idiotic tunnel, but he might just be really fucking wrong. That's about all I have at the moment. There's some notable gaps As some people I completely wrote off, but you should get the gist. | ||
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yamato77
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He even says he's going to pardon the lynch. Why do I want to let this unstable person ruin town's day even further? I maintain, it was a pro-town move. Unfortunately I didn't have the time to adequately deal with the heat that I KNEW would come my way after this, but I didn't get lynched and a third party did so overall it's a decent win for town. | ||
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yamato77
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Foolishness, if your plan is to all-in me, I think you'll be disappointed to know that I have gotten quite good at appearing town as town lately, even in the face of a lynch. All you're doing is MOTIVATING me to crush you in the upcoming day with meta analyses of yourself and Vivax. | ||
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yamato77
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Foolishness is playing like mafia, whether he lied about his read on Marv or not, or whatever it is that Marv is spewing on about. His about turn on Vivax is ridiculous and completely in line with mafia motivations if Vivax is also scum with Foolish. Since then they have both hard defended each other. Foolish and his mates have a history of doing this, a la Parallel World with BH/Foolish. It's like I'm reading a mash-up of LVIII/Parallel right now, to be honest. Scum Foolish/Vivax/Super all doing stupid things and covering Foolish up with the "don't lynch Foolish d1 cuz he's good". Lynch them. | ||
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yamato77
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On March 12 2013 09:44 Foolishness wrote: Actually, yamato makes a lot of sense. He's more trolly and abrasive when he's mafia. When I say that, I mean he's direct about his insults: "you're an asshat", etc. Refer to Fruity Mini Mafia to see this in action (when he's mafia). In Town Ain't Big Enough Mafia, he was town, and while his posting rate was the same, he wasn't as abrasive and didn't swear as much. More importantly, in that game he was actually helpful and contributing. I have a history of being abrasive as any alignment. Ask anyone who has ever played with me, period. Also of note, scum Hapa used this same stupid fucking argument to justify his scum read on me in Duel/TTABE Mafia. Not a good reason, and complete bullshit. This is pathetic and not good enough. Hold Foolish accountable for justifying his reads, because he fucking isn't. On March 12 2013 12:08 Foolishness wrote: No, there's only crappy evidence on why Vivax is mafia. When he's mafia, he spams one liners (with the very rare long post). See TL Mafia LX here. He's mafia and he literally did nothing day 1 except post one liners and derp around. Now look when he's town in British II here. He barely posts any one liners, and his posts have substance; he actually says what he thinks. He doesn't derp. And this game he doesn't have one liners and is clearly trying. Another inaccurate meta analysis. Vivax is derpy as town, read LIX. He's also constructed as mafia, in LVIII. He tries as either alignment. You can't just brush him off as mafia just because he posts more than one fucking line. Complete lie, and something Foolish knows isn't true. Scum Foolish is hoping no one calls him on his bullshit that knows better. I know better. Read the fucking games, realize Foolish is lying, and lynch his lazy scummy ass. | ||
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yamato77
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On March 12 2013 23:47 austinmcc wrote: I am going to look elsewhere, and maybe I'm overthinking, but their whole little spat is just a mess. However, for someone cautioning against drawing connections, you're drawing a LOT of connections yourself. Knock it off, let's play a game. I am going to pick one not-overly-vocal non-newbie non-supervet player. You're going to give me your read on that person, and also berate them for not being more active. Then you're going to ask me about one of the same folks. strongandbig, go Let me filter him. I haven't read much but Foolish yet, I'm just beginning. I will say my initial inclination is that he's town, but that's weak. | ||
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yamato77
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This post is green as grass. I had the same reaction as town. It's also impulsive and emotive, which are decent town tells. Here he gives his read of super, which I agree with and is observant. While I think he's wrong on Oats, I attribute that to me playing in tons of games with Oats and him not. On March 11 2013 10:58 strongandbig wrote: Voting Yamato at this point is retarded. I've only read one fucking game from him and I already know he's exactly the type of impulsive little shit who would shoot a modconfirmed townie after role checking him because he was martyring. He hasn't confirmed himself as town but there are a lot of people we should be killing first. Blame for kurumi's death lies cleanly on kurumi. Bee tee dubs: kurumi, seriously go fuck yourself. Why do you join games like this one and bureaucracy if, when you don't like your role, you are just going to bitch and lie about it until some moron day cigs you? Seriously, talk about playing against your wincon. Anyway, people should be talking about my oats master case. A response from oats himself would be nice. So far the only things anyone has mentioned about it have been that Marv didn't read it but thinks oats master smells townie and corazon saying he liked it but still voting for someone else. IAMPERFECTION AND VE I AM CALLING YOU OUT do something useful for a change and comment on my oats case. After oats, wbg is pretty clearly the next best lynch target. His rambling aside, the resolution to this kurumi thing do not make him look good at all. Not only is he right here, but as I said with Marv, his being right at the time when it could have been very easy to follow thread sentiment and lynch me is a point in his favor. Plus, he's consistent with his Oats push and wants people to notice it. On March 12 2013 09:33 strongandbig wrote: yeah i think bugs is probably jester or VI. who else can we lynch Unless mafia was sure bugs was third party and didn't want him dead, this post is not in line with a mafia mentality. He wouldn't know for sure and might take his chances. Rather, he takes the townie approach of actually lynching a mafia read. On March 12 2013 23:52 strongandbig wrote: Based on reading bureaucracy, I think foolishness doesn't put as much careful thought into his scum play as he does his town play. I could easily see him, playing scum by his gut, deciding to go for Marv. That said, Marv - I wouldn't put quite so much stock in the "foolishness confirmed liar" stuff. It's possible that he got confused between games he coached or obsed and played in. I think that his relatively paltry and careless filter is a much more important piece of evidence. Also @austin - I will not fall into your "long posts -> town" trap again! He arrives at the same conclusion about Foolishness with the same logic. While it isn't hard for scum to be right, or to follow a townie's reads, he also makes an effort to argue against Marv in his logically unsound argument that Foolish is mafia for lying, with the comment on his filter. Now it's your turn. Give me Corazon. | ||
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yamato77
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yamato77
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On March 13 2013 00:18 Vivax wrote: And how does it affect your read on him if he doesn't get roleblocked? WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM | ||
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On March 13 2013 00:25 Vivax wrote: No scum doesn't want investigative roles to work there is no WIFOM version of it where they let them work so people think they're scum. If they do, well whatever scum-positive checks marv claims will always have a red and a green so he will have to claim roleblocks at some point if he fakeclaimed. Agreed on letting marv slip for the moment yamato is a better lynch actually  Just by talking about it you introduce WIFOM Don't be an idiot. | ||
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yamato77
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On March 13 2013 00:30 Vivax wrote: Your whole town read on yamato is based onto his vig-claim? As said by me and S & B him claiming the shot beforehand was probably a requisite for his shot to work but he doesn't mention it as part of his role so people go around and say he's town for claiming it. It wasn't. If you could fucking read, it is an automatic function of my alignment check that I shoot town-aligned players. I don't know beforehand, and mafia roles don't get revealed or shot, I just get a PM saying they're mafia or third party. Stop misrepresenting what I've said about my role. | ||
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yamato77
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His early posting is roleplaying, and it feels stiff to me. There is something markedly different about his attack on me this game and his attack on me night zero of Duel that makes me uneasy. I suggest you read the early part of his filter this game and that game and come away with a better understanding of him. Also, it makes the fact that he is unwilling to go away from me even more concerning. In duel, he was much more active with other reads while maintaining his read on me than he is here. I have him leaning scum in my books, because of this meta distinction. | ||
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yamato77
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On March 13 2013 00:38 Vivax wrote: Well that's even worse you used your role on a guy in the crossfire without asking him to stop trolling like I did or waiting some more to find out if he's actually scum. You actually justified your shot by saying that he martyred and had to die afterwards and not by saying that you wanted to check him while risking his death, meaning you justified afterwards that he died for trolling, not that he died cause you thought he was mafia and wanted to check him at the risk of him dying. So your whole motivation behind that shot doesn't add up in light of your role. It was one of the factors that I considered when I thought of the possibility of him being town, yes. I didn't know his alignment, and thought that even if he was town for this, it was not a great loss because of how he was playing. You should stop posting because I've said all this before. Fucking read. | ||
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yamato77
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Also, everyone ignore him. | ||
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On January 12 2013 02:18 Vivax wrote: Thanks for the compliments folks, if Foolishness didn't say that he wanted me to have 9 pages of filter by start of day 3 I probably would have played differently. Then I simply tried to play pro-town. I actually made a slip: The one where I said I shouldn't defend townies (while talking of CC). I also crumbed busy paramedic (even), so it would have been interesting between me and VE if I had to claim. I think there should be a policy for such slips. I remember Z-Boson saying "it has nothing to do with me being scum" in Hero mini mafia, and he was scum. If someone makes such a slip as town, then it's his fault, but it should be treated seriously. Scum-Claiming should also be lynchable, just like Palmar derping around. I can understand why he might have done that: To get killed as late as possible, but him being around still didn't help town much. Not saying you're not good, but this game you weren't exactly shining, majesty. Congratz to my scumbuddies for managing to stay out of scope so well and being a talkative and active bunch. I would also like to thank my parents, my manager and my fans for their support. Dr. Genki Scum Foolish/Vivax team getting lazy resorting to their same old tricks. | ||
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