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On March 16 2013 22:31 Vivax wrote: I'll try to let this basically be my last post and I don't mind calling you all bad, so beware. I think the game's lost anyway but you can keep humping marv's leg before he uses it to kick you under a bus (town and mafia alike)
It's a realistic scenario mafia goes all-in on this one, they just need a mislynch to win the game. Corazon was town and even if you don't think so you should stick to worst-case scenario to make your decisions in. With this, yamato looks somewhat better. I'd have expected him to hard-defend marv all the way as scum since it would have been pretty easy. I still don't believe he's town however simply for his play but if he's bussing his teammate I'm fine with it, he's going to find some reason to change his mind anyway in case town goes the wrong road again.
We had 2 fake roleclaims from marv with this (Cop and medic) Scum preferred to kill village idiot dandel instead of simply doublestacking marv? Take your pick.
Marv said we lynch him at lylo? We lynch him at lylo. By his own words. If he doesn't stick to them it's just another lie.
Prplhz is likely marv's scumbuddy cause marv poked at his scumslip (in a not very damning way) and then dropped going after it when prplhz claimed to have read it somewhere. somefuckingwhere. Day2 marv refused to comment on both this and his acrofales read and still doesn't pay attention to acrofales. So I think these guys are connected by alignment. It's not my only point but we should go into that later.
Stutters has to claim where his sleeper cell came from. Who contacted him, cause that guy (the "mason") is likely scum, might also just be bad but have to evaluate first. However contacting stutters shows it was some kind of guy who tried to talk the weak of spirit into doing bad things. Reveal the snake. I'm catching up now but this isn't how this works vivax. He chose me, hasn't revealed himself and hasn't sent me a second message. The only thing I haven't posted in the thread about it is the first message because I already said what it said. "GOOD PLAN. AGREED. VOTE XFIRE."
If someone else was added to the cell they should claim it and if they don't the leader should message me in the night with who it was (assuming we make it there).
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Marv: question for you. You said it's very easy to be sure if you're mafia, but you didn't find it suspicious at all how sure I was of Crossfires guilt? Other people have been hammering me for it if they make a case on me but as soon as I stopped trolling and talked about Cross it has felt like you lost all suspicion in me. Why?
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On March 17 2013 11:35 yamato77 wrote: Marv is only as caught as I can convince town he is.
Right now, we only have a few votes on him. It is imperative I make sure he gets lynched.
You are on my radar for how you've handled this today, Austin. Question Yam, how sold are you on Marv? 100%? I would bet money on Cross flipping scum, this is in no way at all his town play? Why not take the easy lynch to ensure we're not fucked into tomorrow? If it comes down to Marv vs anyone but Cross I'll go Marv but what worries you about Cross?
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I'm torn between vivax and Marv. Seriously guys, we should be voting Cross for a free scumlynch which will buy us a day. We need to consolidate though so I'm going vivax for now. Going to weigh them though.
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On March 18 2013 07:24 Vivax wrote: Hey stutters thanks for losing us the game and then voting for the guy defending the townie you shot. Maybe do something right for once? Trying to fake emotion so we think you're actually town?
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I haven't had a scumread on either if them all game. However Marv is playing unlike how I've ever seen him play and Vivax I think is being Vivax. Despite disagreeing with his reads for the most part they feel sincere, unlike what I've seen of his scum games.
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We need town yo agree or scum can just last minute switch and end it. Does anyone honestly think Cross is town?
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Marv: Because you've been all over the fucking place and between you and Vivax I think you're more likely. Why are you all pushing DP over the sure lynch I'm Cross? You claimed to have voted Cross after DP in your filter yet the vote is MIA from the voting thread. What's going on?
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Why are you still pushing over the sure lynch in cross
Fucking Swype
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On March 17 2013 09:10 Stutters695 wrote: Marv: question for you. You said it's very easy to be sure if you're mafia, but you didn't find it suspicious at all how sure I was of Crossfires guilt? Other people have been hammering me for it if they make a case on me but as soon as I stopped trolling and talked about Cross it has felt like you lost all suspicion in me. Why? Also would like an answer to this.
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On March 18 2013 10:06 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 10:04 Stutters695 wrote:On March 17 2013 09:10 Stutters695 wrote: Marv: question for you. You said it's very easy to be sure if you're mafia, but you didn't find it suspicious at all how sure I was of Crossfires guilt? Other people have been hammering me for it if they make a case on me but as soon as I stopped trolling and talked about Cross it has felt like you lost all suspicion in me. Why? Also would like an answer to this. i've had other things to worry about. there are people more suspicious than you and i don't see why you'd run around claiming you have KP that is influenceable by town if you were mafia (of course it's convenient that i told you to shot a townie, but you weren't to know that) I worded that question pretty poorly, but not a big deal that I'm less concerned about given how long we have left. If we make it to night I'll clarify. How come you never actually voted Cross when you said you were going to?
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On March 18 2013 10:20 marvellosity wrote: ok. So DP is convinced that Hiro is town. The likelihood that the check is accurate is fairly high (say 80%)
so let's kill Vivax. it's really, really easy.
##unvote ##Vote: Vivax So your scumread says someone is town and that's a point in favor of Hiro being town? What about the possibility (assuming you aren't scum) of Hiro DP being scum and this being that all in attempt you mentioned, just on Vivax instead of you?
This doesn't feel like the scum Vivax I've seen and it feels like you're just trying to avoid a lynch of yourself instead of convincing anyone of your scumread. In non-lylo I'd understand but a mislynch on anyone else is just as bad as on you. Where's the effort I'd expect from someone of your caliber?
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On March 18 2013 10:26 HiroPro wrote:The names are just what kita comes up with ased on the powers. Keep squirming vivax ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) What?
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On March 18 2013 10:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 10:30 Stutters695 wrote:On March 18 2013 10:20 marvellosity wrote: ok. So DP is convinced that Hiro is town. The likelihood that the check is accurate is fairly high (say 80%)
so let's kill Vivax. it's really, really easy.
##unvote ##Vote: Vivax So your scumread says someone is town and that's a point in favor of Hiro being town? What about the possibility (assuming you aren't scum) of Hiro DP being scum and this being that all in attempt you mentioned, just on Vivax instead of you? This doesn't feel like the scum Vivax I've seen and it feels like you're just trying to avoid a lynch of yourself instead of convincing anyone of your scumread. In non-lylo I'd understand but a mislynch on anyone else is just as bad as on you. Where's the effort I'd expect from someone of your caliber? what's wrong with you? USE YOUR BRAIN 1) I think DP is mafia 2) I've mostly thought Hiro is town 3) Hiro claims a redcheck on Vivax 4) Vivax DOES NOT WANT TO LYNCH HIRO 5) My mafia read (DP) assumes without thinking about it that Hiro is town (and therefore he probably is) why are you not reading and understanding what's going on here? please think about what's happening here. I'll spell it out very simply. DP (who I think is mafia) is saying Hiro is town. He is saying that we cannot trust the red check. Despite the fact there is a very high chance the check is legitimate. USE YOUR BRAIN YOU LURKY MOFO. (P.S. I used 'mofo' instead of something insulting. self-control yo) This is what I was looking for ahole (:p). I understood what you were saying but I'm just not as sold on Hiro being town as you are. I wanted to see how you'd react since you've been so calm and that worries the shit out of me.
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Well town has to consolidate. I don't like Mocstas reasoning for voting Vivax since when I saw a scum Vivax he was aggressive as shit and Marv is actually giving a shit now I feel a bit better about this. I still think not lynching Cross is retarded but we can always get him tomorrow if we make it.
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If scum switch to Marv for a free win because we couldn't consolidate in LYLO I'm going to be very disappointed.
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This is more nerve wracking than being endgamed in YANMM.
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So anyone care to claim the steal or whatever happened to Oats vote?
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On March 18 2013 16:37 risk.nuke wrote: HiroPro, Crossfire99, prplhz, Stutters695, marvellosity, DarthPunk 5/6 of these are mafia. But we will probably loose if we don't have any kp or other ways to stop their 3kp before dawn. If you think I'm scum you haven't been following along at all.
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Ugh, well regrettably this is the first time I've gotten to sit down and do real analysis to the quality I'd like. I'll be at work until the night deadline, so I'll be here but not able to post anything super long, so here is what I think if we make it through the nigh and in case I die:
risk.nuke is scum.
Twice now this game, he has shown absolutely zero interest in who gets lynched. Day 1 he had a worthless vote on slOosh + Show Spoiler [here] +On March 11 2013 17:14 risk.nuke wrote:How scummy would scum Acrofales look if Acrofales did roll scum? However those who would call themselves my friends still will not see. If yamato is town sloosh looks terrible (or rather more terrible). Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 13:04 slOosh wrote: u kids so bad
a) yamato uses mod-confirm check day one on kurumi b) yamato then day vigs mod-confirmed town kurumi c) people complain and call yamato bad but don't vote him d) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town e) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town f) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
srsly if anybody doen't realize this and considers themselves good, well, maybe you need to bend over to see just how low you really are.
##Vote: yamato These are exactly how a mafia accusing a dumb townie post would look. and in combination with his lack of scumhunting everything it makes my scum-o-meter beep. . What that post doesn't show is that slOosh had only posted once. Of course he hasn't really scumhunted (although he had done more in his one post than Risk has to this point).
risk now ignores the rest of D1 outside of 1 liners on Vivax (says he's nothing special) and Yamato (says he agrees with prplhz on thinking the shot wasn't scummy).
Day 2 he actually showed some interest in Foolishness and the fake nukes which felt townish, and since he actually had a a nuke and had an idea of how they worked he dropped his scumread on slOosh which is reasonable.
What concerned me about this D2 play was his lack of a commitment to anything else. He actually mentions other scumreads, albeit slightly. He says "he might be swayed to lynch Crossfire or Cora then says "Actually, I'll revalue my secondary lynch candidates. TBC" but never follows up. He mentions he's unsure of Acro but only when prompted by SnB. Doesn't mention Crossfire again and only implies Cora is scum in + Show Spoiler [this post] +On March 15 2013 16:37 risk.nuke wrote: So foolish actually was unlynchable. I don't think he's town from how he's playing and but now I'm not to sure he's scum based on him actually being unlynchable with the general consensus to kill him and letting cdg get killed in his stead. Which leaves third party.
He asks Greymist to clarify about the daypost, although if he is scum he knows about the death framer already so I don't put my credence in that.
Day 3 He says he's up for lynching DP on the basis of "you can actually tell who care or don't" implying he doesn't see DP caring. He mentions DP throughout the day but doesn't say shit except DP is scum. He never expands upon why DP is scum, just that he is. Doesn't offer any reasons to try and get DP lynched, just places his vote and says "guys lynch DP."He makes no effort to consolidate onto someone he has since said is scum (Marv) or convince other people to do the same.
Even his night post with his list of scum. Still no reasons, not a single fuck given about the game, just more stating of who should be lynched without a single reason.
I'll have more but I want to get this posted in case anyone is up. I'd love to hear thoughts.
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