Personality Mafia 2 - Page 13

On March 13 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
I want to argue with you on Cora a moment because I disagree with how you characterize the early parts of his post.

His early posting is roleplaying, and it feels stiff to me. There is something markedly different about his attack on me this game and his attack on me night zero of Duel that makes me uneasy. I suggest you read the early part of his filter this game and that game and come away with a better understanding of him.

Also, it makes the fact that he is unwilling to go away from me even more concerning. In duel, he was much more active with other reads while maintaining his read on me than he is here. I have him leaning scum in my books, because of this meta distinction.

On March 13 2013 00:09 marvellosity wrote:
Anyway, I'm going to stop thinking about Foolishness and Vivax entirely for now because it's not helping me.

I had a random thought while smoking. If iamp as town is usually almost like an IC, why has he changed up his style so much this game just to roleplay? Is it worth it?

On March 13 2013 01:08 Vivax wrote:
Now, aside from the fact that yamato didn't shoot his "scumread", he didn't play as if he expected to get a check back on Kurumi no, he posted as if he knew he would get shot.

What if he had the chance to get a check back from Kurumi (like he should believe), why announce something beforehand when you don't know the outcome?

Let's assume he expected to get a red check back on Kurumi, would he announce it in the thread or wait for the outcome and only claim the shot if he hit green? In case he hit red he could simply push Kurumi or claim the check afterwards. In case of green he could have stayed silent or claimed it or whatever he wanted to, but he chose the stupid way, why? Explanation: For his role to work he had to play the shot like MZ played it.

He had to announce that he would shoot someone in the thread for his role to work, but refuses to admit it. Every other explanation doesn't make sense unless he's a massive derp.

On March 13 2013 01:12 supersoft wrote:
i should have hyped yamato as super-townie for that shot and hoped that if he's town, he could be like a shield for for me and if he doesnt die, he's scum - i wonder if this could have worked...
now we have to deal with him and the scumteam wont do us the favor to shoot him...

Vivax point is actually not that bad... "end the kurumi problem"
while kurumi already said he has a "scumrole".... it was uncertain if a redcheck would have helped us much...
solving = killing.
GF snipe? not really since he wouldnt have died if he really were gf...
ahhh whatever...
i believe yam. is just playing against our wincondition... but thats okay. i dont expect much more...

On March 13 2013 01:18 Vivax wrote:


The problem he said he would "solve" before knowing from the host if Kurumi was scum or town?

On March 13 2013 01:46 strongandbig wrote:


the games i played with him were months ago granted, but i didn't have that impression from town iamperfection

On March 13 2013 01:48 Acrofales wrote:
I just got done reading most of the fall-out from Yamato's shot and I think everybody who calls Yamato scum for it is either terrible or scum.

Why the fuck would a scum Yamato use an anonymous vig-shot to shoot a confirmed townie and then own up to it. They could have used that power to take out some superpowered veteran with no fear of a medic, but instead use it to kill someone who was shitting up the thread.

Yes, it was a fucking stupid move to shoot a modconfirmed townie. However, that doesn't make it scummy. SnB said this completely correctly.

Vivax, Cora, Sloosh, VE all fail to see this, or are scum using it to try to wagon what looks at the time to be an easy mislynch. Out of these, I like Cora the least, but I'll keep reading.

+ Show Spoiler [brief thoughts on cora] +

On February 26 2013 00:13 cDgCorazon wrote:
3. When I get home from school (in a few hours), I am going to re-read the pages with the whole go around between the TL veterans (basically everyone but the lurkers, me, Adam, Yamato, and Dieno). It's hard to follow because you guys just sit around and call each other scum/town based on each other's metas, which in all honesty is kind of pointless. Metas can change at any point, and players can use their meta from one side or another to conscientiously give others a town read based on their meta. Don't read too much into them (which I'm afraid you guys are doing right now). I'm not saying that all of it has been meta talk, but I've seen way too much meta talk thrown around.

On March 13 2013 02:00 Vivax wrote:
Wow you're using changing opinions on how to play the game as argument against a player who just started playing mafia.

Town marv isn't this bad.

On March 13 2013 02:05 Oatsmaster wrote:


Well tbh, he did use a meta case a little while later on Syl, he was town in Duel.
So this may not be entirely accurate.

On March 13 2013 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Not even professional players who probably receive 10s or even hundreds of PMs a day? Context Oats.

Anyway, thanks for your cooperation. I'm gonna get ready for work and think. Does anyone need anything from me? My time on this game will be focused tonight on answering the question I posed ~12 hours ago, so if you want response from me now is the best time.

On March 13 2013 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I'm back. I'll shower tonight, this is IMPORTANT!

My problem with yamato has always been the fact that I wasn't certain he was town really fast. Look at the scumQT in Nomination: in spite of slOosh and some other townie, I advised AGAINST going after yamato because he was, by my estimation, the greenest player in the game. Granted, I knew he was town, but based on what I saw in the thread, I knew that if he were put under pressure, he would bring the fucking pain...and he did...to my chagrin. But this game I have had no such certainty of his alignment. I don't know how much of that has to do with roleplaying, or the circumstances in the game, but that's the core of my problem with Yamato this game: he's not obviously town to me.

On March 13 2013 02:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Same. Although to be fair, it's not hard to look good when you've got this Foolish/Vivax thing going on.

But yeah, I'm feeling better about yamato too. What I don't get is slOosh' certainty of Yamato's guilt. What's that about?

On March 13 2013 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:


Conversely, my utter manipulation of him in Nom may be factoring into his play too if he's town. :/

Yeah I agree...so don't lynch tomorrow then is basically where slOosh stands for me. If he refuses to contribute anything but a yamato tunnel tomorrow, feel free to open fire or lynch D3. Agreed?