Newbie Mini Mafia XXXVIII

On March 07 2013 12:55 MLuneth wrote:
Last post was a joke, if that wasn't clear

On March 07 2013 17:31 nobodywonder wrote:
nope.

we need to create an atmosphere of clarity, and transparency and one main thing is no lurkers. thats why i voted bduddy, just want him to respond. we need a fundamental level of contribution. we cant have an afk town and win.

we cant let lurkers lurk. thats a very dangerous situation - can lead to mislynchs and town HAS to pressure to contributing.

On March 07 2013 17:56 nobodywonder wrote:
I'd rather like to avoid lynching on Day 1 if theyre unjustified. I want the threat to pressure lurkers to contribute and this would lead to the best case scenario. But if lurkers dont contribute, I have no issues with lynching,

SO Pressuring lurkers to contribute => they contribute. the goal is get contribution (not to lynch, unless necessarily)

On March 08 2013 02:01 TheRavensName wrote:


How exactly does that make him scummier then NW? I think you just want to get your random lynch right.

On March 08 2013 02:06 OmniEulogy wrote:
Alright.. not much to work with and if anybody has any counter-questions for me please ask. Even if you think it's a dumb question, it's best to get them out of the way. I'd like to try and get some discussion going so..

@MLuneth Could you expand on why you chose Arctic to vote on when there were others (bduddy, ChewOnStu) without any content as well. Other than it just being a coin flip.

@Krafla[spoiler]karla[/spoiler] Although you believe we may be giving some lurkers too easy of a time how do you feel about Luneth's vote on Arctic vs the other lurkers? Do you think it was too early to cast a serious vote on someone who has not been present or was it a justified action in your eyes?

@ChewOnStu Welcome to the game On the subject of lurkers, how do you feel we should deal with them if not for voting on them/lynching them when they become a problem? Every vote is meant to lynch so without that pressure how do we force bad town/scum to participate? I do agree that it is too early to assume anybody is lurking and not just busy but it is important to be able to react quickly, especially on D1.

@WoS you mentioned strategies town should implement, or rather asked about them. I was hoping you could expand on your own thoughts on the matter. Do you have anything to say about my opening post or anything to add to it?

@Matriarch How do you feel about the Lynch All Liars policy. Should town attempt to coax out scum by lying and possibly confusing the rest of us / hurting town in the process?

@Raven same question as above, how do you feel about Lynching all Liars. As Scum has to lie to survive do you think this would add pressure and eventually lead to a correct lynch if we caught somebody?

@Rainbows You mention Luneth being scummy, what do you think about his vote on Arctic? As Arctic has yet to show up, do you think it is more town oriented (trying to get a lurker to post) or scummy (attacking the easiest player early on in hopes that Arctic doesn't defend himself).

@Frorgon You mention suspicious behavior being one of the key things you will be looking for, is there anything you could note so far that you would consider suspicious?

@NobodyWonder You say you don't want to lynch anybody D1 if it is unjustified, could you expand and does that mean if we have no concrete proof of scum you will vote to no-lynch or would you get rid of the scummiest lurker?

@Arctic Can give us your thoughts on what has happened so far and answer most of the questions I have asked to the others.

@Taco Could you give your thoughts on Luneth voting for Arctic, which alignment do you believe it favors?

If I missed anybody sorry =/

On March 08 2013 02:13 OmniEulogy wrote:


- Claims scummy
- Doesn't answer question
- Also I'm not pressuring at least 8-9 people with those questions
- Means he didn't read the questions.

Good to you know you have so little to say about so much Rainbows

On March 08 2013 02:34 OmniEulogy wrote:


If you can't figure it out OR read it's not my problem. Your soft town claim, and the fact that you can't realize that the majority of the questions focus on Luneth is amazing. Also your ability to only focus on one thing at a time only is interesting, I assume you tunnel people blindly with that state of mind as well.
So you think Luneth is scummy for no reason? ok.



"While I believe that nobodywonder's actions have been suspicious and that his case is less than stellar, I feel that it is foolish to lynch someone who has made an addition to the game (albeit at this point small) should not be lynched over a person that has simply lurked for 2 days straight.
I feel I need to point out that Frogon, as well as Krafla and Matriarch (to a lesser extent) have all input a similar amount of information as nobodywonder."

He compares NW to four other players (raven in his next post) and states that he's done more than two(at that point) others and you wonder why he didn't vote for him, and THAT is what strikes you as making him scum? Practice what you preach and contribute something useful for town instead of blindly being arrogant.

On March 08 2013 03:14 TheRavensName wrote:
Guess its time for the joke vote to go.
##unvote

Now I guess its just a decision between M or NW at the moment... I find myself leaning a little towards NW given that hes actually posted suspicious stuff, where as our lurking friend still needs to give some stuff... Outside of those two, I dunno, Rainbow makes me uncomfortable even if he might be townie, I could actually see bussing mafia or SK also. OE seems pretty tow to me, and the rest need to contribute more before I can feel comfortable making a prediction.

On March 08 2013 09:28 nobodywonder wrote:
@WoS. you're fine. although I want Krafla to explain himself still

@OE.. hmmmm his posts are really long and windy, just check his filter. just like krafla, his posts are either useless or just too long, may indicate somewhat scummy

+ Show Spoiler +

however one of the most interesting thing is where he chastises Raven


+ Show Spoiler +

why would he even defend Raven? Raven has played like a noob or somewhat scummy (see: "I guess I'm just dumb"), why wouldn't OE try to pressure Raven. As I see it, OE and Raven have the same allegiance and confirm each other's role. therefore possibly both mafia or chobolings.

On March 08 2013 11:38 MLuneth wrote:
Good morning all (well morning for me)

I will be able to answer questions in 2-3 hours.
I will also explain my stance on NW/Daishi when I get back.
ty for your patience

On March 08 2013 16:29 MLuneth wrote:
##Vote: nobodywonder

This vote is basically the result suspiciously targeting lurkers but more importantly the lack of an acceptable coherent defence.

Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker?

On March 09 2013 03:37 OmniEulogy wrote:
My Case on Frorgon



I believe now it is applicable to call you a lurker. I'm kind of confused as to why you think it is scummy to attack people to see their reactions and how they react under pressure. I've seen players vote on almost everybody in the game by the end of D1 who weren't scum but were fishing for information, I have yet to see scum play so ballsy.

You claim to not be afraid to call people out on things but when you tried you were almost afraid to commit and were very back and forth about it.



"The amount you talk to yourself while nobody is here raises a red flag, everything you've said while more than 1 person has been here has been awesome!" what? This to me seems like scum trying to pretend to contribute while at the same time not trying to make anybody upset. It wouldn't have made me look at it twice if you had been active and contributing but as we all know you've made 4 posts in nearly 48 hours. This is not acceptable for town. This is the behavior of scum.



So many things wrong with your last post.
- Attacks the weakest player in the game NW, WITHOUT placing a vote. Just a casual "wow you are so scummy"
- Makes an association case between NW and Bduddy.
- Claims he will make his case and we will have plenty of time to analyze and go over it. Nice case he's made.

##Vote: Frogron

We need to step it up town. The only two players I can identify as even having a chance at being town are Krafla and Rainbows. If you are town and have been content to just stay quiet and not contribute, wake the fuck up. Nobody is getting replaced tonight, stop talking about it. Everybody has posted D1 the only way somebody is getting replaced is if they don't vote.

The following players are also on my list of potential scum

Arctic Daishi - Playing the noob card after lurking for 36~ hours, NOT a smart move. I want to see some serious contribution from you starting D2 and if I don't I will be pushing for your lynch. Hell if Frogron can save his ass before the end of D1 from me I'll go after you in the next 7 hours.

Bduddy - Lurking, scummy, if Frogron hadn't contributed less I'd be happy to see him gone today. BUT he does claim he's been busy so for D1 he gets some slack. Could just be an uninterested townie. Nothing to really disprove that so far.

ChewOnStu - almost as bad as Frogron, really bad sheep vote. scummy.

NobodyWonder I was going to vote on for most of today but realized if he is lynched and flips town we gain nothing, I'm not against seeing him lynched as I agree he's scummy as hell but I don't want to put all of our eggs in one basket.

And then there is also Matriarch who is lurking as well... the largest problem I can see here, IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY ALL OF YOU ARE SCUM. So TOWNIES again I ask Wake The Fuck Up. I am seriously getting annoyed by the lack of activity out of you. You will cost us this game if you don't snap out of it before we end up lynching you.

On March 07 2013 12:24 MLuneth wrote:
Flavour was certainly pretty sweet

I know it's my first game so I'm still learning but I don't think we should just lynch Krafla without reason, even if it would be fantastically ironic.
Your post Omni seems pretty reasonable and a good basis to work on ^_^

On March 07 2013 12:55 MLuneth wrote:
Last post was a joke, if that wasn't clear

On March 07 2013 17:34 MLuneth wrote:
EBWOP Forgot to add TheRavensName to above list of people that have done little

Coin said
##Vote: Arctic Daishi

On March 08 2013 16:29 MLuneth wrote:
##Vote: nobodywonder

This vote is basically the result suspiciously targeting lurkers but more importantly the lack of an acceptable coherent defence.

Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker?

On March 09 2013 07:48 MLuneth wrote:
My vote in NW stays the same because there has still been no coherent defence to tell me why NW is not scum.

I agree that other players are looking very suspicious too but I'm more confident that NW is scum than they are

On March 09 2013 08:30 MeatlessTaco wrote:
No one will care about my reads right now. I'll post all my thoughts beginning of day 2 so there is plenty of time to discuss lynching me. The only 2 actives I could vote for aren't under suspicion, so it is between Chew and Arctic.

##Unvote
##Vote: Arctic Daishi

On March 10 2013 14:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not convinced OE is scum at all actually. I have a null on him right now and until Geript can prove to me otherwise, I won't be voting him.
Luneth is a much stronger vote and I've been leaning towards him since last night after Daishi was hammered.
Glad to have you back, Rainbows, and strong delurk. The only thing that bothers me is with such a strong case, where's your vote?

Vote: MLuneth

Maybe this will get him to come back and start answering some questions. I don't even know what to say about Matriarch.

On March 10 2013 14:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
In an interest to not just sheep Rainbows and add to discussion, Rainbows is your secondary read on Taco perchance based on this at all?



The fact that the both of them asked when he was going to be replaced is curious, and might add up to a scumteam 'plan' to pretend they thought he was going to be replaced when they knew very well he'd show up to make them look good. (Not realizing we'd lynch him, obv)

On March 11 2013 13:05 geript wrote:

There's nothing towny about actively looking for multiple reasons for actions from both town and scum perspectives. But why make the previous post about thinking about Arctic as town. It literally serves no purpose from town perspective. None whatsoever. Then he wants to pull bullshit like, "OMG I was totally sold that AD was scum. He was even one of my scum reads. See how towny I must be." Fuck that. That's not town play; that's simply stupid scum play.

##unvote
##vote OmniEulogy

On March 11 2013 18:44 Krafla wrote:
Good morning all, sorry I've been MASSIVELY INACTIVE again.

So it looks like the vote at the moment is between MLuneth or MeatlessTaco.

I was initially suspicious of MeatlessTaco due to his aggressive nature, but early on I decided against a vote for him because he'd contributed more than nobodywonder. Now by the time night one rolled around I'd been convinced by reading through the thread that a check on MLuneth would provide a better return than a check on Meatless.

It turns out it didn't matter who I made a check on because I got roleblocked. Now (Warning speculation) assuming I was RB'd by the scum and not by the town, who do you think the Mafia would've seen as my most likely target?

Especially over the night there was a lot of speculation towards MLuneth, which is what persuaded me to use my check on MLuneth. Now if I picked MLuneth as the person most warranting a check, what are the chances that the mob second guessed me and blocked me?

For the moment I'm going to

##Vote: MLuneth

primarily because even though he was active at the time he didn't switch his vote when near the end of Day 1 whilst town was coming to the consensus that a vote on AD was better.

On March 12 2013 01:09 geript wrote:
@Rainbow... Why you no listen to what nutter butters say? Why you no like nutter butter?

On March 12 2013 06:06 MeatlessTaco wrote:


lol. Town will mislynch through day 4, but it should still be an easy town win. You don't need nor want my help.

On March 12 2013 07:27 MLuneth wrote:


I believed at the time that NW was more likely to be scum than AD.

I distanced myself to AD by voting for him to get him to say something. Similar votes were made on bduddy, or at least threatened, are those people maf too? Purely coincidence.

Sheep votes the target with the most compelling scum case after previously being suspicious before bandwagon started. Just because I waited to hear from NW before voting him does not make me maf, it makes me want to avoid mis-lynch. Furthermore, if I wasn't confident that NW was maf then I would have sheeped onto the AD vote, which I did not.

On March 09 2013 07:48 MLuneth wrote:
My vote in NW stays the same because there has still been no coherent defence to tell me why NW is not scum.

I agree that other players are looking very suspicious too but I'm more confident that NW is scum than they are

##Vote: nobodywonder

This vote is basically the result suspiciously targeting lurkers but more importantly the lack of an acceptable coherent defence.

Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker?

On March 14 2013 00:34 Krafla wrote:
So you're supposed to wait for night actions to resolve and then announce what you did and what you learnt? I thought that was more likely to make you sound like you were bluffing.

I posted after the night action deadline saying what I'd done (because I was only a 1-shot cop) but before the night action resolution (after which I announced the outcome). What difference does it make posting after the deadline or posting after the resolution UNLESS the deadline wasn't when it was specifically said that it would be? If I'm missing something obvious please explain it to me so I know in the future!

On March 14 2013 01:57 Frorgon wrote:
I don't see how Rainbows looks suspicious right now Raven. There is no connection between him and Omni. Now if Luneth somehow flips town, as I've said Omni starts to look innocent and then Rainbows would have the same problem as Omni has right now, tunneling votes on innocent people. If Luneth is town then Geript and Rainbows are scum. Otherwise the two scum are Luneth and Omni. You seem to agree about Omni, but I don't think we learn as much if we vote him today, and a mislynch on Omni hurts us a lot more than a mislynch on Luneth.

On March 14 2013 02:13 TheRavensName wrote:
No your suspicios for changing your whole philsophy. Theres a differance, and your not my current vote are ya? Until I figure otherwise, you got lower priority than luneth omni and whatever I can figure on Sn0 sense right now I got nothing.

On March 14 2013 11:33 MLuneth wrote:
Hello? I was one of the people who started the vote, expressing concern before most others. I didn't vote at the time because trying to get AD to wake up.


Tired of explaining this -___-

On March 09 2013 00:32 marvellosity wrote:
Vote Count

Krafla (0): WaveofShadow, TheRavensName, Arctic Daishi
MLuneth (0): Rainbows
nobodywonder (6): MeatlessTaco, ChewOnStu, Rainbows, TheRavensName, Matriarch, MLuneth, Krafla, Arctic Daishi
bduddy (0): nobodywonder
Arctic Daishi (0): MLuneth
ChewOnStu (2): Rainbows, MeatlessTaco
TheRavensName (1): bduddy

No vote: OmniEulogy, Frorgon, WaveofShadow, nobodywonder

nobodywonder is currently set to be lynched. 9.5 hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else.

On March 14 2013 12:05 geript wrote:
@Rainbows. Other than sheeping (which can be dumb town) and lying, what other reasons do you think makes Luneth a better lynch than OE? I don't care if you think OE is town, I want specific reasons for Luneth to be scum.

On March 15 2013 02:12 Sn0_Man wrote:




ORLY?

Nobody had even posted a whiff of suspicion in his direction all game (except some silly "pressure" votes early D1 when he was full-on lurker mode). EVERYBODY deserves to be pressured, to see how they react.

Also geript, You've been pushing an OE lynch forever, then all of a sudden you "Don't want to disrupt the Luneth lynch" but somebody you never mentioned is "in your zone for tomorrow". Will you ever contribute to this game? I still don't see why nobody else wants to lynch you... :/

On March 11 2013 19:03 MLuneth wrote:
While this may seem OMGUS motivated I implore you to consider my points before passing this up as OMGUS crap.
+ Show Spoiler +

Why this screams scum


Takes points out of context to imply guilt "+ Show Spoiler +" Also "+ Show Spoiler +" in that he neglects (he is aware that I have had suspicions about NW before) to mention that I have had suspicions about NW previously

This miscontextualisation is not by accident as he very clearly neglects to mention things that I have said that disagree with his argument.

Rainbows seems to think he's above questioning
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No, I asked you a question because I suspected that you were scum. Answering the question "should" be easy if you are town. Avoiding the question and saying that the post was aimed at you rather than the person I ended up voting for is incredibly scummy and another example of you ignore other evidence over stuff that helps your argument

This is clearly scum orientated behaviour and therefore
TL:DR : read the post, Rainbows is scum

##Vote: Rainbows

On March 14 2013 02:31 Rainbows wrote:
@MLuneth

Suddenly, for zero reasoning at all, I don't want to lynch you anymore! Let's lynch Geript instead :D Nutter Butter is scum!

##Unvote
##Vote: Geript

On March 14 2013 02:42 Rainbows wrote:
C'mon MLuneth you know that guy is scum, he keeps calling Omni scum and floods the game with nutter butter bullshit. You FoS'd him where is your vote breh?

On March 09 2013 09:58 Mocsta wrote:
Vote Count

nobodywonder (5): ], ChewOnStu (Geript), Matriarch(Sn0_Man), MLuneth, Krafla, Arctic Daishi
Arctic Daishi (7): WaveofShadow, TheRavensName, bduddy, OmniEulogy, MeatlessTaco, Frorgon, nobodywonder
Frorgon (1): Rainbows

No vote:

Arctic Daishi is currently set to be lynched. 0 hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else.

On March 07 2013 23:12 Matriarch wrote:
Good morning!
Meatless, if I HAD to pick someone to lynch right now I am afraid I would have to choose you. I don't understand why your knee jerk reaction to my earlier question was very pro-town. Yes, this is a game of mafia but we ARE supposed to be helping our neighbors. This is a newbie game and we are still learning AND how are we supposed to find scum without help from each other?
Also, you seem to be pushing really hard for these early uneducated votes. The game has just begun, we have a lot of time left in the day to examine cases and actions.

On March 08 2013 07:31 Matriarch wrote:
Goodness, the day has gotten away from me!
@ Krafla- My scummy read on Meatless is holding; Mainly because there hasn't been much opportunity for that to chance. He sort of fell off the map after his initial flurry of activity last night.

I was also asked my opinion on the "lynch all liars" policy. I think it is a fair policy. As town there should be NO reason to lie to each other. Lying means you have something to hide and hiding things usually turns out badly.

On March 08 2013 14:57 Matriarch wrote:
I'm back and all caught up! I like what's being said about nobody. Take a look at this post.



He gets asked about OE and he says that he makes long posts and so he's scummy? Why does that make him scummy? And if you look at his posts earlier he looks more like he thinks (or knows!) OE is town. I think that's pretty shady!

##Vote: nobodywonder

On March 14 2013 00:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
Alright, I've finally made it through the whole thread.

Some players have kinda piqued my interest as scummy right now.

First, Geript. Day 1, town starts slow but warms up, gets focused and nails scum with a solid-contributing atmosphere where certain players stick out like sore thumbs. THIS IS THE TOWN ATMOSPHERE WE NEED. Then geript replaces in, and the nutter-butters start. Fast forward to the end of day 2 and we have lynched a townie, discussion is dying and there is a lot of uncertainty in the thread (my take on it at least). It isn't like geript created the mislynch, or made any scumslips, but in my eyes he poisoned the atmosphere enough to cloud town's perceptions. I can't really see this as anything other than scummy. Note that he replaced CoS who did very little but managed to look scummy in that time as well.

Next, OmniEulogy. Yes, it certainly feels like omni has contributed a lot, but I'd contend that he has simply posted a lot. As others have said, he spent day 1 soft-defending Arctic Daishi (scum), spent day 2 pushing a mislynch really hard, and has just struck me as off throughout my read-through. Reads slightly scum but less so than geript.

Most of the rest of the thread were releasing strong newbie vibes that interfered with my ability to seriously read them (on a casual read-through). I'll work on individual filters over the course of the next 30 hours or however long we have and try to give opinions on others but those 2 really stuck out.

PS: Krafla is looking kinda sketchy too with his claims but I'll have to re-read the OP and figure out what the hell he's claiming.

On March 14 2013 11:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
At this point I really want to hear some kind of defense out of omni before I continue researching him. He hasn't had any real pressure on him previously so this ought to tell us a lot. On the other hand, he scrubbed out of my last mafia game with him due to PC issues so who knows whats up...

@frorgon: Well I'm glad you are willing to push a read. I'm not really sold on MLuneth being too much scummier than, say, nobodywonder or krafla who are in very similar positions. I'm currently more interested in lynching geript (although he is bringing legitimate points against OE...). However, If we can't consolidate on scum anytime soon I'll have a good look at MLuneth's filter (since it really isn't that long and you are so dead-set on him). Just try not to get confirmation bias, find other scum as well. I think we all get the point that he is your top scumread.

On March 15 2013 01:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
Alright, after going through some filters, I noticed something funny.

Bduddy, who has done stone nothing all game, has received a completely free ride.

Day 1, he lurks around and is "busy IRL" (often true but also often a scum excuse to lurk). He eventually gets on the popular wagon after AD essentially scum-claims. After day 1 he has successfully blended in and looks pretty null.

Night 1, he posts some silly garbage about ##Unvoting and stuff, no real contribution ("Saving it for the day" or some garbage).

Day 2, he is quick to cast suspicion on a perfectly legitimate blue-claim by Krafla. When there is an uncontested blue claim, that is a pretty easy confirmed town since it's pretty suicidal to false-claim there as scum. Bduddy doesn't want Krafla's claim to be accepted, despite the fact that it is an uncontested blue claim. Thats REALLY scummy.

Beyond that, Bduddy feels the need to post things like this:


Cluttering up the thread with comments on somebody who just replaced out. Admittedly this could be a simple mistake but it still doesn't look very good.

Next up, bduddy's day 2 vote:



First, he plays the noob card. "Im sorry i'm bad and my cases are bad don't hold me to standards just let me be useless to town"...
Next, Blatant sheep: "I trust you guys my cases are bad here let me sound legit as I put my vote on a Town player"

What kind of garbage is that? He never even attempts to justify this vote, he just leaves it there while also pointing fingers at virtually half the thread with posts like:

And

Then,

Nowhere is he trying to push a read, he's just throwing shit everywhere. And nobody calls him out on it anymore (after his previous "I'm so sorry I noob let me sheep plz" vote on taco everybody was content that he had his vote down... derp).

Immediately after the mislynch he is super-eager to get matriarch mod-killed instead of replaced, with posts like

and

Its fairly clear that Bduddy is a bit over-interested in getting people mod-killed instead of a more town-favoured replacement (modkills are statistically more likely to harm town than help them).

Since then, he has made a total of 5 posts.

The first was "Sn0_man make posts plz". Okay bro, thanks for the tip... :/

The next 2 were yet another blatant attempt to discredit our uncontested blue claim... (seriously, scum don't blue-claim like that. It makes no sense).

The last 2 took an entire day to make between them...

one was trying to describe Rainbow's silly vote on geript as "Pressuring" MLuneth... basically not a post.

The last one was this:



Back to sheepville where he basically copy+pastes the highlights of rainbows case and calls it a wrap. Calls out MLuneth for making a weak case despite not having made any real case since... Day 1. Happy to park his vote on what is clearly the going wagon at the moment. This just strikes me wrong.

At this point, I'm having a hard time really deciding who I think is most likely to be scum. Really, I'd like to lynch geript today for blatantly shitting up the thread, but that clearly isn't going to happen. I honestly think Bduddy is more likely to be scum than either Omni or MLuneth, so I'm presenting my case on him, but there seems to be a lot of confirmation bias going on in this thread already directed at those 2.

Again, I'll revisit omni once he returns to the thread, and while I don't disagree with some of the points brought up on MLuneth his lynch just looks too easy right now. It might be the right one, but in all my previous games the easy wagon has been the wrong one.

PS: Oh god that was long

On March 15 2013 06:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
Why does half the thread always fall over themselves trying to look as scummy as possible?

We have just over 3 hours to lynch. At this point, OmniEulogy has come back but instead of presenting a defense he has basically conceded. I had other reads, and other comments, but I don't see how town can let this fly.

##Vote: OmniEulogy

For refusing to seriously answer all the accusations, and for that horrible, horrible martyr post. I don't see how you can be town anymore.

On March 18 2013 08:10 OmniEulogy wrote:
gg town! well played guys Rainbow MVP

On March 18 2013 08:30 geript wrote:
nah, Frogon I felt like I had a reasonable town read on you early and it continued when I went back and read you a few other times. I think my N2 target could've been better, I as 100% on Raven as town and thought she was making the most sense so I protected her instead of Wave. I think if I hadn't tunneled as hard as I did on OE I would've seen it but eh.

Also OE, I hope no hard feelings. I'm very curious how Rainbow had that strong of a read on you because I didn't get that at all.

On March 09 2013 03:37 OmniEulogy wrote:
the largest problem I can see here, IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY ALL OF YOU ARE SCUM. So TOWNIES again I ask Wake The Fuck Up. I am seriously getting annoyed by the lack of activity out of you. You will cost us this game if you don't snap out of it before we end up lynching you.