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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 13 2013 16:59 GMT
#1181
On March 13 2013 18:08 Krafla wrote:
Because WoS flipped town [...] I'm going to have to trust WoS on this one and

##Vote: MLuneth


That is pretty awful Krafla.

I mean, vote whoever you want, but shit like this is how mafia can hide their votes and not get exposed. I mean, this is the sheepiest vote ever. I don't care who you are sheeping, come up with some reasons of your own.

I mean, "MeatlessTaco flipped town so I'm gonna vote Rainbows because that was his last scumread", sounds like bullshit right?. Its the same case that you made here.
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Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 13 2013 17:00 GMT
#1182
On March 14 2013 01:57 Frorgon wrote:
I don't see how Rainbows looks suspicious right now Raven. There is no connection between him and Omni. Now if Luneth somehow flips town, as I've said Omni starts to look innocent and then Rainbows would have the same problem as Omni has right now, tunneling votes on innocent people. If Luneth is town then Geript and Rainbows are scum. Otherwise the two scum are Luneth and Omni. You seem to agree about Omni, but I don't think we learn as much if we vote him today, and a mislynch on Omni hurts us a lot more than a mislynch on Luneth.


Actually there is. I blates think Omni is town. That's the connection. Problem is he wouldn't vote Luneth with me, that asshole. Idk how geript is scum with me, but kay.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 13 2013 17:00 GMT
#1183
To answer your question Raven, because Omni hasn't been pushing to lynch Luneth at all. He seems to be trying to avoid it, despite the fact that Luneth looks scummy. It's not 100% certain that Omni is innocent if Luneth is green, but in that case I just see it as Omni trying to do his best regardless of whether he has been right or wrong. Rainbows would look much worse. And I suppose I might look bad too because I've been pushing pretty hard for a Luneth lynch. But then again so was WoS.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 13 2013 17:01 GMT
#1184
Holy crap guys. Do not talk about association cases before a flip. Do you have any idea how pointless it is?
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 13 2013 17:01 GMT
#1185
Lynch the scummiest player, proceed from there. Win game.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 17:02 GMT
#1186
On March 14 2013 01:57 Frorgon wrote:
I don't see how Rainbows looks suspicious right now Raven. There is no connection between him and Omni. Now if Luneth somehow flips town, as I've said Omni starts to look innocent and then Rainbows would have the same problem as Omni has right now, tunneling votes on innocent people. If Luneth is town then Geript and Rainbows are scum. Otherwise the two scum are Luneth and Omni. You seem to agree about Omni, but I don't think we learn as much if we vote him today, and a mislynch on Omni hurts us a lot more than a mislynch on Luneth.

I don't think that any of this makes sense. How are you drawing these conclusions?
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 13 2013 17:02 GMT
#1187
On March 14 2013 01:57 Frorgon wrote:
I don't see how Rainbows looks suspicious right now Raven. There is no connection between him and Omni. Now if Luneth somehow flips town, as I've said Omni starts to look innocent and then Rainbows would have the same problem as Omni has right now, tunneling votes on innocent people. If Luneth is town then Geript and Rainbows are scum. Otherwise the two scum are Luneth and Omni. You seem to agree about Omni, but I don't think we learn as much if we vote him today, and a mislynch on Omni hurts us a lot more than a mislynch on Luneth.


What do youmean Rainbow doesn't look suspicious? Look at his play day 1 and then look at all of his posts sense then. He went from pushing for votes and accusing people hard and fast to hiding and just jumping in when it was safe after we flipped a red.

And I want to avoid connections after my mistake on Taco. After all, you people were SURE me and Omni were either masons or Mafia together day 1, that went away as times gone on.

And how does a mislynch on Omni hurt us more then Luneth? Omni has made only two cases, one he said was rather weak, and another was on a townie.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 13 2013 17:06 GMT
#1188
Thank you Rainbows for MAKING SENSE. Come on guys, association cases are retarded without seeing a flip.

Also, yay activity.

Lastly, why are so many people in this thread worried about their own image? That is SCUM MOTIVATED. Scum care about their image, town care about lynching scum. Get over yourselves. Don't make votes based on "Oh but I might look like I drove a mislynch" make votes based on "MUST. KILL. SCUM."
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 13 2013 17:07 GMT
#1189
So I'm suspicious because I was putting myself out there Day 1 blatantly, and then trying to kill Luneth instead of Taco?

k
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 13 2013 17:13 GMT
#1190
No your suspicios for changing your whole philsophy. Theres a differance, and your not my current vote are ya? Until I figure otherwise, you got lower priority than luneth omni and whatever I can figure on Sn0 sense right now I got nothing.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 17:15 GMT
#1191
On March 10 2013 12:11 OmniEulogy wrote:
the thing is WoS, he proved himself scummy because he sheeped me and voted Frorgon.

Funny how he doesn't seem to call out Rainbows because of his vote for Frogon. Rainbow's response to the terribad Frogon case:
On March 09 2013 03:46 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 03:37 OmniEulogy wrote:
My Case on Frorgon

On March 07 2013 22:29 Frorgon wrote:
Good morning all.

Glad to see things picking up a bit now.

As far as the discussion on "lurkers", I don't think it can be considered an applicable label for anyone as of yet, I mean there is still a lot of time left in day 1. But I will definitely be keeping my eye out over the next few hours.I also agree that I'd rather find a logical reason to lynch someone on day 1 instead of just randomly choosing someone. I'm not afraid to call people out but it seems quite scummy to just attack someone without any useful contribution behind it.

Also bduddy, you can claim you are lurking for personal reasons, but how are we to know this is true? You were warned before this game started that you should only commit if you had the proper amount of free time. A busy schedule is no excuse, so I do hope you contribute.


I believe now it is applicable to call you a lurker. I'm kind of confused as to why you think it is scummy to attack people to see their reactions and how they react under pressure. I've seen players vote on almost everybody in the game by the end of D1 who weren't scum but were fishing for information, I have yet to see scum play so ballsy.

You claim to not be afraid to call people out on things but when you tried you were almost afraid to commit and were very back and forth about it.

On March 08 2013 06:29 Frorgon wrote:
@OmniEulogy I'm wondering why you asked me about what I thought was suspicious behavior. I clearly explained that in my initial post about the matter. It made me a bit uneasy about whether or not you were trying to get redundant information posted to cloud up the thread. As Wave said, the amount of posts you had started to raise a red flag for me. And don't get me wrong, it's not necessarily the amount of posts you had that was bad, it was that you seemed to be drowning the thread for a while with just your thoughts and limited discussion from others. That being said, I feel better about your contributions in the past few pages since other people have shown up.


"The amount you talk to yourself while nobody is here raises a red flag, everything you've said while more than 1 person has been here has been awesome!" what? This to me seems like scum trying to pretend to contribute while at the same time not trying to make anybody upset. It wouldn't have made me look at it twice if you had been active and contributing but as we all know you've made 4 posts in nearly 48 hours. This is not acceptable for town. This is the behavior of scum.

On March 08 2013 19:15 Frorgon wrote:
Alright I'm back. In my opinion, bduddy is not making a good case for himself. That's 3 different excuses for being inactive right now due to his "busy life". I really don't care about how busy your life is.

Nobodywonder still looking real scummy. Unvotes bduddy after the terrible explanation provided. I'm thinking they could both be scum covering for each other. NW makes a case early on against bduddy without actually being serious about it so there are no reprocussions. Bduddy has his suspicion on people who in my opinion don't same overly scummy as of yet, and is defending NW.

Right now I'm narrowing down my vote between NW and bduddy and I plan to make an actual vote shortly after they respond, if they respond. There should still be a decent amount of time on the clock for D1 after my vote.


So many things wrong with your last post.
- Attacks the weakest player in the game NW, WITHOUT placing a vote. Just a casual "wow you are so scummy"
- Makes an association case between NW and Bduddy.
- Claims he will make his case and we will have plenty of time to analyze and go over it. Nice case he's made.

##Vote: Frogron

We need to step it up town. The only two players I can identify as even having a chance at being town are Krafla and Rainbows. If you are town and have been content to just stay quiet and not contribute, wake the fuck up. Nobody is getting replaced tonight, stop talking about it. Everybody has posted D1 the only way somebody is getting replaced is if they don't vote.

The following players are also on my list of potential scum

Arctic Daishi - Playing the noob card after lurking for 36~ hours, NOT a smart move. I want to see some serious contribution from you starting D2 and if I don't I will be pushing for your lynch. Hell if Frogron can save his ass before the end of D1 from me I'll go after you in the next 7 hours.

Bduddy - Lurking, scummy, if Frogron hadn't contributed less I'd be happy to see him gone today. BUT he does claim he's been busy so for D1 he gets some slack. Could just be an uninterested townie. Nothing to really disprove that so far.

ChewOnStu - almost as bad as Frogron, really bad sheep vote. scummy.

NobodyWonder I was going to vote on for most of today but realized if he is lynched and flips town we gain nothing, I'm not against seeing him lynched as I agree he's scummy as hell but I don't want to put all of our eggs in one basket.

And then there is also Matriarch who is lurking as well... the largest problem I can see here, IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY ALL OF YOU ARE SCUM. So TOWNIES again I ask Wake The Fuck Up. I am seriously getting annoyed by the lack of activity out of you. You will cost us this game if you don't snap out of it before we end up lynching you.


This just in: Omni is town.

I agree with the sentiment that this lynch is going too smoothly. Zero opposition.

TOWN: Consider targets like ChewOnStu and Frogron. Good case by Omnizzle here.

I don't see how that's either a good case, an effective post or anything close to making Omni town. I also don't see the point in flat out calling someone town what 10 pages into day 1 is effective or useful. The only people who need to be thought of as town are scum.

Omni's #1 scum read seems to be based on activity alone. If that's the case then why would he disappear for 2 days once the pressure was off of him? I really just don't see how Omni is town.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 13 2013 17:19 GMT
#1192
He was town because he was calling out the entire thread. WAKE THE FUCK UP he says... scum don't want to do that. Scum LIKE a lurky environment. Scum have zero reason to not want this, seeing everyone as scummy, etc. Omni was so fucking town with that post.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 13 2013 17:20 GMT
#1193
On March 14 2013 02:13 TheRavensName wrote:
No your suspicios for changing your whole philsophy. Theres a differance, and your not my current vote are ya? Until I figure otherwise, you got lower priority than luneth omni and whatever I can figure on Sn0 sense right now I got nothing.


Day 1 and subsequent days are different. Day 1 we have no info, Day 2 we go off D1's info. Ofc my play changed, because I'm not going to faceroll over random people for any little thing when I'm trying to nail scum.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 13 2013 17:27 GMT
#1194
Arguing about town reads is pointless. The goal here is to identify and lynch scum.

Plus, you should really avoid defending somebody until they have had a chance to defend themselves. There is *no* town reason to deflect pressure from another player, because their response is important information that town can use. Either they clear their own name and everybody is happy, or they incriminate themselves and we nail scum. Win-Win for town. It is NOT your responsibility to try and clear other peoples name (Unless ur scum trying to save a scumbuddy?)
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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 13 2013 17:27 GMT
#1195
On March 14 2013 02:20 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 02:13 TheRavensName wrote:
No your suspicios for changing your whole philsophy. Theres a differance, and your not my current vote are ya? Until I figure otherwise, you got lower priority than luneth omni and whatever I can figure on Sn0 sense right now I got nothing.


Day 1 and subsequent days are different. Day 1 we have no info, Day 2 we go off D1's info. Ofc my play changed, because I'm not going to faceroll over random people for any little thing when I'm trying to nail scum.

You could be attack dogging your scum suspects then. Even if Luneth turns out to be scum 2, were still short 1 more... find out who he is.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 13 2013 17:29 GMT
#1196
*Sigh* you guys are idiots. I wasn't defending Omni, someone brought up my town read of him in a post so I explained it.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 13 2013 17:31 GMT
#1197
@MLuneth

Suddenly, for zero reasoning at all, I don't want to lynch you anymore! Let's lynch Geript instead :D Nutter Butter is scum!

##Unvote
##Vote: Geript
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 13 2013 17:33 GMT
#1198
On March 14 2013 02:31 Rainbows wrote:
@MLuneth

Suddenly, for zero reasoning at all, I don't want to lynch you anymore! Let's lynch Geript instead :D Nutter Butter is scum!

##Unvote
##Vote: Geript


Are you even remotely for real?

I mean, I'm pretty down with a Geript lynch myself, but lets get some REASONS and stuff. This is not how we make it hard for scum...
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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 13 2013 17:34 GMT
#1199
On March 14 2013 02:31 Rainbows wrote:
@MLuneth

Suddenly, for zero reasoning at all, I don't want to lynch you anymore! Let's lynch Geript instead :D Nutter Butter is scum!

##Unvote
##Vote: Geript


Did you test the nutter butter for DNA evidence first?

For some reason... maybe cause its Geript, I feel okay with this vote even with lack of a case.... would still like to see one though if you got one other than frustration.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 13 2013 17:36 GMT
#1200
I'm not interested in anyone elses response but MLuneth's, thank you.

Wanna lynch le Geript mans?
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