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Rainbows
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On March 14 2013 02:36 Rainbows wrote: I'm not interested in anyone elses response but MLuneth's, thank you. Wanna lynch le Geript mans? Given his averge posting time habit, its going to take him some time to get back to you, | ||
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On March 14 2013 02:44 TheRavensName wrote: Given his averge posting time habit, its going to take him some time to get back to you, Wasn't MLuneth from Australia or something? On the plus side, we have 30+ hours to lynch so no crazy rush. PS: Something tells me this is just a ploy from Rainbows to get MLuneth to make a case. A noble attempt, I guess... | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On March 14 2013 02:48 Sn0_Man wrote: Wasn't MLuneth from Australia or something? On the plus side, we have 30+ hours to lynch so no crazy rush. PS: Something tells me this is just a ploy from Rainbows to get MLuneth to make a case. A noble attempt, I guess... I don't know why you would say something. I reached the same conclusion but didn't want to risk ruining it. Way to go sn0 | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On March 14 2013 03:04 TheRavensName wrote: I don't know why you would say something. I reached the same conclusion but didn't want to risk ruining it. Way to go sn0 If you have to "trick" somebody into making cases it probably makes more sense to lynch them. If not, then my comment certainly shouldn't prevent MLuneth from responding in a reasonable manner. I mean, how dumb does this sound: "Hey guys, I tricked scum into making a case..." :X And as I said, if the target is town then you shouldn't need to "trick" them. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
 For example, where is NW? What are his thoughts on the current lynch candidates? He hasn't really posted all day... As I've said, Geript and OE look scummy to me but OE isn't posting much anymore and geript's response to me was "I've been pretty straight forward" followed up by more "Nutter butters". | ||
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
On March 14 2013 03:13 Sn0_Man wrote: It's called pressuring, and it doesn't work if you go out and tell them that it's "just a ploy" or whatever. If you have to "trick" somebody into making cases it probably makes more sense to lynch them. If not, then my comment certainly shouldn't prevent MLuneth from responding in a reasonable manner. I mean, how dumb does this sound: "Hey guys, I tricked scum into making a case..." :X And as I said, if the target is town then you shouldn't need to "trick" them. | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
Looking back at his filter it's just pages of "nutter butter" and other crap which just floods the thread making it incredibly difficult to actually make any progress. Then, he randomly (he has talked about OE before but the actual vote comes out of nowhere) blames everyone else for not talking and votes OE, who while making some bad reads has been one of the most active scum hunters in the thread. Seems super scummy to flood the thread and then suddenly call for action. To add to this, ChewOnStu, the person that greipt replaced sheeped the NW vote without changing and lurked, certainly super scummy behaviour. | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
On March 14 2013 09:20 MLuneth wrote: I assume this is what you want? No, if you're going to make a case, make a case; all you made we're some points most of which Sn0 already pointed out. I demand more. | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On March 14 2013 09:37 geript wrote: No, if you're going to make a case, make a case; all you made we're some points most of which Sn0 already pointed out. I demand more. I'm gunna agree wih geript... don't take the easy way out... Give me something new that hasn't already been said Luneth. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On March 07 2013 11:14 OmniEulogy wrote: I think policy lynches should be used as a last case scenario, if we are stuck at the end of D1, lynch the scummiest lurker. I've been thinking a while and I think this is the main reason why I'm suspicious of Omni. At the end of D1, Artctic was clearly the scummiest lurker around IMO by a wide margin. The points that Raven and WoS re: Arctic had made were pretty clear. Yet, throughout OE's filter even from early on he seems to be defending Arctic and deflecting to Taco. From a town perspective, I can understand why OE found Taco as many of us did, but what I cannot understand from a town perspective ESPECIALLY using 'scummiest lurker' as a guide is why OE would try to shift votes toward Taco who was FAR less scummy that Arctic. I can understand why, from a town perspective, he would want to question seemingly random votes. However I cannot understand why from that viewpoint he would seemingly focus more on random votes on Arctic more than other seemingly random votes. The last point that I can't understand from a town perspective is why he would stop pressuring a lurker to stop lurking once they posted a little bit. His premise is that lurkers are bad for town which is a simple and straight forward position to take from either side. Yet now he's completely lurks. If he (as town) really wants to push people to not lurking, then there is no reason to stop pushing them. From a town perspective with this basis he should be trying hard to fight against lurkers and pressuring them constantly. However, I don't see him doing that at all. While his filter is longer, it doesn't look to me that he's doing more than trying to appear active and helpful. This is the basis of scum: he doesn't follow through on his perceived 'town' agenda--This is scum mentality. He also doesn't try to push his 'town' agenda (scummiest lurker) against the obvious target--Arctic--because it goes against his actual agenda of keeping Scum alive. This makes him Scum. Vote OE. | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On March 14 2013 09:53 geript wrote: I've been thinking a while and I think this is the main reason why I'm suspicious of Omni. At the end of D1, Artctic was clearly the scummiest lurker around IMO by a wide margin. The points that Raven and WoS re: Arctic had made were pretty clear. Yet, throughout OE's filter even from early on he seems to be defending Arctic and deflecting to Taco. From a town perspective, I can understand why OE found Taco as many of us did, but what I cannot understand from a town perspective ESPECIALLY using 'scummiest lurker' as a guide is why OE would try to shift votes toward Taco who was FAR less scummy that Arctic. I can understand why, from a town perspective, he would want to question seemingly random votes. However I cannot understand why from that viewpoint he would seemingly focus more on random votes on Arctic more than other seemingly random votes. The last point that I can't understand from a town perspective is why he would stop pressuring a lurker to stop lurking once they posted a little bit. His premise is that lurkers are bad for town which is a simple and straight forward position to take from either side. Yet now he's completely lurks. If he (as town) really wants to push people to not lurking, then there is no reason to stop pushing them. From a town perspective with this basis he should be trying hard to fight against lurkers and pressuring them constantly. However, I don't see him doing that at all. While his filter is longer, it doesn't look to me that he's doing more than trying to appear active and helpful. This is the basis of scum: he doesn't follow through on his perceived 'town' agenda--This is scum mentality. He also doesn't try to push his 'town' agenda (scummiest lurker) against the obvious target--Arctic--because it goes against his actual agenda of keeping Scum alive. This makes him Scum. Vote OE. He also lurked hard when we finally got Taco and I was the one keeping that going, my bad, despite that being his main read. That rubs me wrong, it really does.Enough to start buying the idea that he corrected and defended me day 1 to build some cred even when it would further his case if he didn't jump in. I dislike how he soft defended ARctic, that he even argued that lynching arctic did nothing for us no matter what he flipped. He also made a cute little slip looking back at it. On March 09 2013 08:24 OmniEulogy wrote: hahaha it happens, quite a lot in mafia. NW voting for him was good imo unfortunately I don't think I'm gonna get any of you to move off Arctic unless Taco comes back and basically claims scum so, I still take responsibility for being part of the people who lynch Arctic and hopefully switching my vote now won't hurt any town credibility I had because I feel that we (the current active players) are working together quite well. If this lynch is right hopefully we can get on a roll. Why is he worried about his town credability? A town player shouldn't be, least according to the guides on the front page, why would he? Especially sense the majority of people already soft or hard confirmed they thought omni was town or just a good enough role model to have in the thread for us noobies. | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
Following on from what I posted earlier I believe that geript is scum for some VERY odd voting patterns + tunnelling (as well as what I mentioned earlier) OE even before taco flipped town. Greipt has tunnelled OE since he was introduced into the game. Then he votes meatless taco out of nowhere. If he is maf then he knows that taco is not scum but votes him to blend in and to incriminate OE tomorrow (today). This way he pushes mislynch on taco, sets up the most active scum hunter (at the time) for a lynch the next day. Furthermore, he votes OE only to "promote discussion" (after spamming the chat with nutter butter) and only once he realises that there is a decent amount of support for an OE lynch does he commit by placing a case, in which he introduces no new information that could have been gained between his vote and his "case". This is to your liking? | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
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nobodywonder
United States848 Posts
Geript, honestly make a case if you're tunneling so hard. MLuneth, so who are you voting? You're really buddying up with OE and you seemed very convinced that OE is town and that Geript is very likely maf On March 14 2013 10:17 MLuneth wrote: Essentially, if OE is town Geript is very likely maf come on man, hook us up with some context with some quotes and analysis, MLuneth. Sure, Geript has sketchy behavior and annoys us with nutter butters, but come we all know that... you have introduced no new information. NO NONE of your analysis/claims are my liking On March 14 2013 10:16 MLuneth wrote: Well, I made most of my points before Sn0. Following on from what I posted earlier I believe that geript is scum for some VERY odd voting patterns + tunnelling (as well as what I mentioned earlier) OE even before taco flipped town. Greipt has tunnelled OE since he was introduced into the game. Then he votes meatless taco out of nowhere. If he is maf then he knows that taco is not scum but votes him to blend in and to incriminate OE tomorrow (today). This way he pushes mislynch on taco, sets up the most active scum hunter (at the time) for a lynch the next day. Furthermore, he votes OE only to "promote discussion" (after spamming the chat with nutter butter) and only once he realises that there is a decent amount of support for an OE lynch does he commit by placing a case, in which he introduces no new information that could have been gained between his vote and his "case". This is to your liking? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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nobodywonder
United States848 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On March 14 2013 09:53 geript wrote: I've been thinking a while and I think this is the main reason why I'm suspicious of Omni. At the end of D1, Artctic was clearly the scummiest lurker around IMO by a wide margin. The points that Raven and WoS re: Arctic had made were pretty clear. Yet, throughout OE's filter even from early on he seems to be defending Arctic and deflecting to Taco. From a town perspective, I can understand why OE found Taco as many of us did, but what I cannot understand from a town perspective ESPECIALLY using 'scummiest lurker' as a guide is why OE would try to shift votes toward Taco who was FAR less scummy that Arctic. I can understand why, from a town perspective, he would want to question seemingly random votes. However I cannot understand why from that viewpoint he would seemingly focus more on random votes on Arctic more than other seemingly random votes. The last point that I can't understand from a town perspective is why he would stop pressuring a lurker to stop lurking once they posted a little bit. His premise is that lurkers are bad for town which is a simple and straight forward position to take from either side. Yet now he's completely lurks. If he (as town) really wants to push people to not lurking, then there is no reason to stop pushing them. From a town perspective with this basis he should be trying hard to fight against lurkers and pressuring them constantly. However, I don't see him doing that at all. While his filter is longer, it doesn't look to me that he's doing more than trying to appear active and helpful. This is the basis of scum: he doesn't follow through on his perceived 'town' agenda--This is scum mentality. He also doesn't try to push his 'town' agenda (scummiest lurker) against the obvious target--Arctic--because it goes against his actual agenda of keeping Scum alive. This makes him Scum. Vote OE. | ||
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