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On March 09 2013 10:00 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 09:58 Mocsta wrote:
Geript will replace ChewOnStu, effectively immediately
Again:
IMPORTANT: SEND ANY ACTIONS TO ALL OF THE HOSTS. If you don't, it will not get counted.
Oh that's interesting. Hai Geript  I'm sure there will be all sorts of meta shenanigans b/w you and me eventually but since LX is going on I think we'll have to tone it town at first.
EBWOP: tone it down.
I swear that was not a what would you call that? A town-slip? Anyway, unintentional.
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Apologies. In an effort to suck up to you, I enjoy your inclusion of VE in the flavour text?
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For the record, Luneth looks to be the scummiest of the three since he actually showed us that he came back and STILL willfully abstained from switching despite no appropriate reason to back it up.
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On March 09 2013 10:12 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 10:04 bduddy wrote:
And also, we still need to keep an eye on anyone that defended or refused to vote for AD, even if they eventually switched (once it became relatively obvious that he was going down).
Matriarch, MLuneth, and Krafla never switched their vote; I'd be willing to bet at least one of them was scum trying to keep AD in it. I still say Taco is mafioso #2 but for the sake of argument Town TacoMafia had more than enough chances to jump at my invitation to lynch Taco, I feel the case was and still is well made and perfectly acceptable. Only Frorgon and NW joined the wagon attempt on Taco and both switched to Arctic before the lynch. possible bus, but they weren't needed for the lynch and could have claimed my case made more sense than a shot at the dark into our lurker pool. Scum TacoWe forced scum into deciding who to lynch, those who started the Arctic lynch are town, I'm town for trying to lynch Taco, Remaining mafioso most likely on the NW Wagon or bussed Arctic because Taco is more valuable (possible mafia power role as Arctic was a regular goon). I'm extremely happy with this lynch either way and this is just quickly how I see us proceeding if we look at Taco as being under suspicion.
I disagree with a lot of this.
I agree that Taco is not out of the woods yet (still waiting on his reads) but in no way does this lynch confirm anybody as town, LEAST of all you. This is all WIFOM because if you're scum then it could just as easily follow that Taco is town and Frorgon is scum alongside you. (Hell, we might have only 2 scum and a 3rd party role)
NW could also technically still be scum since I believe there has to be at least 1 scum amongst the NW-voters, which would mean scum are spreading out their votes to not look suspicious; an entirely likely D1 scenario.
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On March 09 2013 10:27 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 09 2013 10:12 OmniEulogy wrote:On March 09 2013 10:04 bduddy wrote:
And also, we still need to keep an eye on anyone that defended or refused to vote for AD, even if they eventually switched (once it became relatively obvious that he was going down).
Matriarch, MLuneth, and Krafla never switched their vote; I'd be willing to bet at least one of them was scum trying to keep AD in it. I still say Taco is mafioso #2 but for the sake of argument Town TacoMafia had more than enough chances to jump at my invitation to lynch Taco, I feel the case was and still is well made and perfectly acceptable. Only Frorgon and NW joined the wagon attempt on Taco and both switched to Arctic before the lynch. possible bus, but they weren't needed for the lynch and could have claimed my case made more sense than a shot at the dark into our lurker pool. Scum TacoWe forced scum into deciding who to lynch, those who started the Arctic lynch are town, I'm town for trying to lynch Taco, Remaining mafioso most likely on the NW Wagon or bussed Arctic because Taco is more valuable (possible mafia power role as Arctic was a regular goon). I'm extremely happy with this lynch either way and this is just quickly how I see us proceeding if we look at Taco as being under suspicion. I disagree with a lot of this. I agree that Taco is not out of the woods yet (still waiting on his reads) but in no way does this lynch confirm anybody as town, LEAST of all you. This is all WIFOM because if you're scum then it could just as easily follow that Taco is town and Frorgon is scum alongside you. (Hell, we might have only 2 scum and a 3rd party role) NW could also technically still be scum since I believe there has to be at least 1 scum amongst the NW-voters, which would mean scum are spreading out their votes to not look suspicious; an entirely likely D1 scenario. I'm saying if Taco is scum in that scenario o.O and I never said NW was town in any of that  I agree that I think it's possible that 1 scum was on NW, and if Taco is also scum, he bussed Arctic. I'm not sure where you are disagreeing considering you just went over everything I said =/ And I never claimed town from this lynch either. lol I didn't really discuss this lynch just the fact that Taco is still probably scum and he bussed Arctic because the only two choices were himself or arctic.
Oh, derp I think I stopped considering that you were speaking hypothetically somewhere in there? In any case, I think we may need to be careful as to how much scumhunting we do tonight, though if things go as I might expect them to, I think D2 might be just as easy as today was despite the lurkers.
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On March 09 2013 15:24 geript wrote:
My name is Geript, but I will allow you to call me sexy.
I am fat but loathe fast food.
I prefer long walks on the beach on cloudless nights.
I hate Kevin J Anderson. His books ruined so many series: Star Wars, X-Files, Dune.
That is all.
Are you going to wait until D2 to give us some reads? Just curious.
+ Show Spoiler +Also I know this is not about mafia but allow me this.
YES. HE FUCKED DUNE SO HARD I HATED IT BUT READ IT ANYWAY ARGHHHH
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On March 10 2013 04:24 MeatlessTaco wrote:
I think I'd prefer a lurker to geript.
I prefer this Geript.
On March 09 2013 20:38 geript wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 09 2013 18:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also I know this is not about mafia but allow me this.
YES. HE FUCKED DUNE SO HARD I HATED IT BUT READ IT ANYWAY ARGHHHH You seem knowledgeable of the subject in hand. What do you think of 'new/old' Dune. Worth reading or do you think it is too terrible to stand? Is KJA an intentionally bad author?
I wanted to see how it ended and read a couple of the 'old history' series and stuff...they're awful. Supposedly the final books and those ones were based on notes they found by Herbert himself but honestly it seems really damn unlikely; to me it seems like they wanted to create a whole different direction for the series to go, wrote a retarded backstory for it (thinking machines) and then made the last book tie into their retarded backstory so they could feel like they actually contributed. The writing and plot were absolutely awful.
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Oops that whole thing should've been in spoilers. Oh well.
Krafla I hope you see how scummy you look to the rest of us right now; I'm not sure I care if you get targeted N1. Explain your vote process for D1 and any new reads you have please.
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Thanks OE. Just spell out the targets for mafia. I'm going to have post a last will now, aren't I?
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On March 10 2013 08:03 MeatlessTaco wrote:
I just read that part and I took it differently. I thought MLuneth could have hedged his bets better had he known AD was mafia. I considered that a towny post.
Of course you would, you did the exact same thing.
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OE, just assume it's 8:00 EST.
That's what time it is in the OP, so go by that.
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Wait, what? So is the cycle deadline now at 7:30 PM daily instead of 8:00? If so I feel like the OP should reflect that.
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Oh wow, not sure how I missed that.
Thanks.
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On March 10 2013 09:05 Krafla wrote:
Right so seeing as we're after deadline.
I am a one-shot cop I checked MLuneth tonight and as soon as I get my result back I will tell you the result.
That's a very early blueclaim, and I would not have advised that; chances are you weren't a prime target for scum KP.
OE your case doesn't really bring anything new to the table and no offense, but they're pretty simple observations. It all depends whether or not you think AD was capable of thought beyond basic "I am mafia therefor I must vote to kill town" and there was no discussion in the mafia qt amongst the team.
I'm hesitant to FOS Taco or Luneth yet, but Luneth looks way scummier to me atm.
Plus about 5 lurkers.
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And I agree with Geript's list of pressure and that Rainbows needed to be added to that list. It really doesn't look great that he was so active and useful early on and then he abruptly disappeared.
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On March 10 2013 09:21 OmniEulogy wrote:either JK is amazing, RB is amazing or both so happy with this town :D
This is VERY interesting. I'm about to drop a bombshell.
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I'm working it out, give me a few.
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Damn. I think it's too much WIFOM to know for sure.
I was roleblocked as well.
Simple case scenario is JK saved me from a night shot and mafia RB chose Krafla at random. There are a LOT of other possible scenarios though, none of which I like very much.
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The only thing I DO know for sure is mafia either deliberately didn't shoot, or I was saved. They most certainly did not forget to send in NK. This doesn't include possible SK; though if I had to wager I'd guess there isn't one.
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There are a lot of problems I see here so I'm just going to voice them. Note: Unless proven otherwise, I am still going to assume the simple case scenario though.
WARNING: WIFOM
+ Show Spoiler +It's possible that Krafla is lying and mafia didn't shoot to try and give him town cred. Unlikely but possible. The other thing I find suspicious is OE's 'JK list' earlier. He suggests me, Raven and Geript as NK targets when realistically I am probably prime target after D1 in terms of danger to scumteam. He makes it extremely obvious but then why would scum go for the most obvious target for a JK save when it would be incredibly easy to just hit one of the slightly less active (but not lurky) townies who would essentially be a sure kill? Again, fair amount of WIFOM here but that strikes me as bad scum play (which of course might be possible given AD's first day). If the simplest case scenario is proven true we are dealing with a not-so-devious scumteam and they're playing a very straight game which should make it easy for us.
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