TL Mafia LX

On February 21 2013 09:15 Promethelax wrote:


Fair enough. We all have games like that.

On February 21 2013 10:06 GreYMisT wrote:


Don't forget your poor performance in Aperture Mafia. You didn't do anything at all to help your team.

On February 22 2013 22:07 Restraining Order wrote:
/in
I have read the OP.

On February 26 2013 10:03 MilkSuckler wrote:

I can live with that.
Move on solider.

P.S. Can I be your shadow pl0x

On February 26 2013 10:04 Toadesstern wrote:

are you mad that it didn't work or that you didn't get more credit for it?
Because it sure sounds like that. We had some discussion about the rnd you suggested, we had some discussion about what I suggested. I most definitely wouldn't phrase it the way your are

On February 26 2013 10:07 Promethelax wrote:


Because I don't care to lynch Vivax. I know I'm the only guy on the forum who thinks this but Vivax is a good player and useful to town when town. Also, as Marv showed in fruity, he is catchable as scum on meta alone.

Tl:dr I have a scum read on WoS and not on Vivax.

On February 26 2013 09:57 Promethelax wrote:
Okay, so RNG didn't create the discussion I wanted. Screw you guys.



Explain.

For the moment my top scum read is WoS, he responded to gerpit's candidacy all wrong, obviously assuming gerpit is town but statistically...



He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality.

Vote me, screw random lynch. I'll lynch WoS.

On February 26 2013 09:23 Vivax wrote:
Geript, what makes you unlikely for NK if you fulfil A + B properly?

lol

On February 26 2013 10:13 Promethelax wrote:


Because they are different people. I've never had the ability to read him based on behaviour, only meta.

On February 26 2013 10:17 The Macho Man wrote:

its like the most important person in the world is standing here and you two have a conversation going on. Im only the greatest of all time and you people are having a conversation.

Allow me to interrupt me the macho man randy savage.

On February 26 2013 10:18 Promethelax wrote:


I can't read him on meta because I haven't played with him. Which is why I read him on behaviour instead. You were a scum coach in his one townie game. Do you have any insight you wanna share?

On February 26 2013 10:28 The Macho Man wrote:

The macho man likes your confusion and could see that you may in fact be town because you care to figure out the macho mans alignment.

The macho man also understands that you are not garbage like the rest.
But the macho man would still prefer the macho man because comparatively speaking you are not better than the macho man

On February 26 2013 10:30 Wade Fell wrote:
Milksuckler is Marvellosity

On February 26 2013 10:31 Wade Fell wrote:


He uses the word "dear" to refer to people, the only person who ever does this is Marvellosity, right?

On February 26 2013 10:53 WaveofShadow wrote:

But see that's the thing. If you were actually curious about my play you would have looked, so you either didn't bother which means you don't actually care, or you did and you're lying.

On February 26 2013 10:54 Promethelax wrote:


Aqua, I'm still missing any thoughts from you. What is your opinion on literally anything.

On February 26 2013 11:02 VayeshMoru wrote:
Let the records show the the voice of Prom has slowly gone from the soothing and alluring voice of the songstress to the shriek of countless banshee's. Cult worshipping is appearing to be at an all time high. A savior is needed to clear the shadows from our light.

On February 26 2013 11:03 Promethelax wrote:


... lol

Well why him over me? If we are associated wouldn't that go both ways?

On February 26 2013 11:11 Promethelax wrote:


No I'm not. But whatevs brah.

On February 26 2013 11:15 Promethelax wrote:


RNG was the plan I was talking to you about pre game.

VE I dont care to fight with you, I think you are likely town and fighting with you will lead to a shitty thread. Instead let us hunt scum separately. If you get elected and choose to lynch me just tell me before you make that choice so I can post my full list of reads and reasons so I can at least help town a little.

I'm off for a re read.

On February 26 2013 11:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

mafia's goal is to survive and nothing else really, when you're already guilty it's more difficult to push arguments against people you know are innocent, less confidence in it.

why argue with you and get lynched if you get elected when he can try to make you stop paying attention to him altogether

On February 26 2013 11:55 Promethelax wrote:


I just meant both go out and hunt scum.

You k ow hassy at all? Would he vanish like that as town?

On February 26 2013 12:06 Promethelax wrote:


You said it. But didn't bold it. I thought that might be your super gosh scum start with it.

I would say grush is mod confirmed townie at this point, we should make him or WoS pardoner.

On February 26 2013 12:19 VayeshMoru wrote:
Vayesh is pleased to see a voice silencing the chaos. A new day has come that a man has emerged from the blue box. He has come to save us all.

On February 26 2013 12:20 Promethelax wrote:


Be pissy about it if you want. I'm Talking to VE about the opinion of a player we both talk to regularly and respect. Grush is town. I'm sure of it and I always will be, someone could get a red check on him this game and I'd still have him as town.

On February 26 2013 12:23 Promethelax wrote:


Do you care what I have to say o. The matter?

On February 26 2013 12:31 Promethelax wrote:


No it isn't. It is in fact a great way to read grush. He has never used STARSENSES as scum. He has been scum and not used STARSENSES he is very invested in being confirmed town with that breadcrumb, grush doesn't trust his own play to keep him safe and values the crumb as it keeps him alive as town.

On February 26 2013 12:38 grush57 wrote:

hmm?
if you don't care if I said it or not then what's the point of telling me it if I was scum if you don't care and think it isn't important.

On February 26 2013 15:22 randombum wrote:
....you are probably right. The only truly good information that my plan would generate is if suspect 1 is unwilling to lynch suspect 2 and would be willing to put himself under huge scrutiny to go against town and not lynch suspect 2. However, mafia could simply just lynch suspect 2 like a town would and everything falls apart.

And its the opposite of thinking my chances of finding two scum is very high. I'm not confident so the idea is I get two main suspects and pit them against each other. Hopefully one of the two at least is mafia. If instead its two townies then whelp, that's some bad play right there.

I'm done discussing this because the plan is clearly not taking off anyways.

On February 26 2013 15:24 MilkSuckler wrote:

Further, perhaps the delivery was overtly aggressive; but the intention was far from poisonous.

Yes I know super town players exist that can solve the game blah blah; but comments like everyone is stupid just listen to us three are dangerous.

VE/Dr.H/WF are not confirmed town; and he is setting up people to blatantly sheep them by intimidation via experience.

Out of those three; Dr.H for me is the closet thing to be confirmed town.. and he has applied the same attitude to EVERYONE. Not just non-vets.


I am intercepting something before it grows out of control; and would make the same post again (perhaps less aggressively)

On February 26 2013 09:23 MilkSuckler wrote:

How about... "no"

On February 26 2013 15:38 Wade Fell wrote:


For all you know I'm warbaby. How srs are you claiming a smurf is throwing around his vet status?

On February 26 2013 17:39 MilkSuckler wrote:

Watch me all you want VE. Just make sure you don't forget to scum hunt as well
Night

On February 27 2013 07:05 VayeshMoru wrote:


Thoughts on more than one you have. Thoughts plentiful the doctor does have. Whichever most fall in a parallel line shall be the course to the voting shine.

On February 27 2013 07:14 layabout wrote:
2 of your 3 scumreads rely on the other one being correct?

I thought better of you VE.

On February 27 2013 07:15 VayeshMoru wrote:


of those thoughts Vayesh sees one common thought. A second thought is almost in align and the third is not yet fully concluded. The amphibian seems more some mutating thing, or perhaps the one who sells spirits. The man of bovine is still not fully alluded.

On February 27 2013 07:21 Vivax wrote:
I didn't really consider Toad being scum so far, he looks different than in fruity.

You got any other arguments besides him trying to take credit for Prom's lynch prematurely?

On February 27 2013 10:37 ObviousOne wrote:

It's hard to express rage poetically without droning on with more clutter than some of these cats can handle. I'm keeping it simple. I'll save it for a mini where I don't have to type as much.

On February 27 2013 10:59 ObviousOne wrote:
Are you seriously taking everything I said in the first few hours of the game as Gospel truth, guys? If you are, I'm sorry. I can't help you fix your read of me because I'm already dead if that's the case.

On February 27 2013 12:08 Hassybaby wrote:
Ok, it's 3am here and I have to leave for the airport in half an hour, so I'll read up again in about 10 hours

On February 27 2013 16:29 MilkSuckler wrote:

It was a light hearted comment.. chillax.

Hopefully this paranoia is because u know who I am, and *if im lucky* you respect my scum game or something.

On February 27 2013 10:14 ObviousOne wrote:
My short list

Prom - self explanatory, and why I'm voting VE or DocH for mayor
layabout - instigating arguments instead of just ignoring the shit that apparently doesn't matter anyway
Restraining Order - too restrained
JungleJorge - crazy fucking plan to trap Prom
Grush - Starsenses seems to be broken

On February 27 2013 10:27 ObviousOne wrote:
Hassy, if you consider everyone I've ever asked a question a target of mine you're going to have to explain THAT. I just want to learnify about some people.

On February 27 2013 17:45 Toadesstern wrote:


question: Do you consider what you said about me a scumtrait considering you know me?
Because frankly you know I'm quite self centered and I don't mind not getting credit for stuff I'm doing but I do mind if other people get credit for it and I get insulted at at the same time. So I usually end up rubbing it in for said people to have some fun and to make them realize how stupid they are.

As mafia I'm way more careful with controling my own emotions and you know that. I'm way more looking at stuff like that while I just don't care for that kind of stuff as town because I assume everyone knows I'm town anyways (given the skype conversations with people outside the game it isn't a far fetched call at all).

On February 27 2013 17:58 Toadesstern wrote:

he's more actively useless and more in your face when town. He usually tries to push some kind of bullshit screaming at people, yelling and kicking at the same time.

Pretty sure he's not town.

On February 27 2013 12:10 VisceraEyes wrote:


Is it just me or does this read like he's been here reading all along and was signing off in spite of having said like nothing in hours? :/

On February 27 2013 12:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Just making sure. Dat's scummy!

On February 28 2013 06:25 Vivax wrote:
I'm back for training.

I actually missed that question from ObviousOne, so apologies to Hassy for mistaking his intentions there, I thought he tried to ask some fluffy questions about two players who are terrible targets. Prom cause he's getting lynched anyway and me.
That doesn't change the fact that his overreaction and ad hominem attacks without simply pointing out where I was wrong are scummy. The matter could have been solved within one post if he had quoted that. Telling a guy all sorts of insults and whatnot is not the right way to solve that.
It looks to me like he purposefully tried to stir up more fire instead of trying to solve the matter immediately, and he's still perfectly disinterested in the rest of the game.

I also apologize for spamming, but it seems most of the thread isn't here when I am and viceversa.

On February 26 2013 15:08 MilkSuckler wrote:

This vet circle jerking has to stop now
Being a vet does not guarantee your logic is sound; or that your shit smells better than mine and others.
Further it does not guarantee you are town.

All members of this game have a responsibility to be transparent in play and present well-reasoned thoughts.

Perhaps, players with lower experience would not make as capable a mayor as a vet; however:
(1) This mayor role is nerfed without BG - so the outcome of vet/new is of less importance
&
(2) Less experience is not synonymous with being incapable of reasoned thought that is CORRECT.

I don't have a problem with your prome case; I already commented on pretty much everything you wrote, a fair bit before you wrote it. But I guess it doesn't make sense, not coming from a confirmed vet.

The quicker you get over your game of 'soggy biscuit'; the quicker we are going to get along.

---

Nice blatant buddying here. Im guessing you buy ya kneepads on bulk discount...

On February 28 2013 06:35 grush57 wrote:
VE, I bet all my starsenses on Toad being scum.
I'm sure of it.
Lynch him.

On February 28 2013 07:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Fuck it. Do what you want. I'll lynch Promethelax if elected, this I vow.

##Unvote
##Vote: VisceraEyes

On February 28 2013 08:50 Wade Fell wrote:
If you vote for VE or DrH instead of me out of fear or animus you're not doing it right. Logically, it is mathematically apparent than I am the only one who will make good use of the doublevote. if VE says he'll lynch Prom now, this close to the deadline, you can believe him, so the only question you have is this:

Who will make the best use of the doublevote? Who uses his vote like a cudgel to beat scum into submission every game?

ME. It's BLAZINGHAND aka WADE FELL who is the VOTEMEISTER. Let me have the doublevote. I will use it for good rather than useless and my style synergizes with it.

Vote for me!

On February 28 2013 08:56 Wade Fell wrote:
To close to the deadline for me to save my campaign now


Well, when it finally comes down to it, I have the power to choice who is the mayor and who is the pardoner. I am sorry, DrH, but I trust you more than VE, so you're the pardoner. You will 100% not use the power, and my townread on you is stronger than VE, so...

##unvote
##vote VE

DrH has made sense from the start of the day. He is the only one who can be trusted with the power that moves up LYLO by a half-day, the pardoning power. I am sorry, VE. I know you didn't want this, but sometimes greatness is thrust upon the unsuspecting.

I am suffering from flood control, so if I am unable to post in the voting thread between now and the deadline, hosts, please consider this to be a vote for VE.

On February 28 2013 11:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
For what it's worth, I feel like any kind of "building up to not lynch Prom" you're seeing Milk is nullified by the fact that I've been pushing since yesterday to get DocH elected. I did my best to not get elected, I even capsraged. The veteran players didn't want me as Mayor so I wanted to oblige them. Unless for some reason you think that DocH was unlikely to lynch Prom, then your point about me "building up to not lynch Prom" being a problem is moot. At no point did I not want today's lynch to be Prom. Ever.

On February 28 2013 11:18 MilkSuckler wrote:

Do I need to quote the posts where you say with 'authority'
that you are uncertain with prome as YOUR lynch, and could change your decision.

This brings to mind. I think it was TestSubject, who said, ppl deserve to know who you are lynching.. because they are voting for you on the premise you will vote prome.

The mayor lynch means Sweet Fuck All

On February 28 2013 11:19 geript wrote:

No, lynching someone who not lynching would get you lynched is nothing. Not icing, nothing.

On February 28 2013 11:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

Attacking his defender is basically impossible logic for town. If prom was town then jj would have been correct, there would be nothing to criticize.

On February 28 2013 12:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I think we should lynch Vivax. Go look through his post, he started off by saying the best way to find scum is to find people that take the game seriously instead of trolling. After putting a bunch of people in that category, he was only willing to point a finger at JJ. Not actively interested in the Prom case but spends a ton of time only to slap a null read on there.

The way he reacted to me initially calling me out is troubling. He didn't OMGUS but did have a bunch of insults and mockeries to throw my way.

I'm getting kinda woozy and doubtful, I hate night 1 because I start rolling over in second guesses. I need to reset my head. I'm nowhere near ready to start reading Toades' filter, I'll need at least 2 more beers before I attempt that.

On February 28 2013 16:29 ObviousOne wrote:

I burned almost two hours on that, it's break time.

I have two names in mind I'll look at when I return, but it's not going to be as comprehensive since, well, I'm probably dead tonight anyway and 4 hours for two cases doesn't jive for me when I could just sleep.

On February 28 2013 16:40 geript wrote:
You went on the offensive to prevent anyone else from getting credit. You've lied multiple times about whether or not you wanted to lynch Prome. You've lied multiple times about whether you're running for mayor. You've intentionally tried to grab at pardoner which is a pro-scum role. You've lied about not trying to take credit for the mayor lynch. There's nothing that can be trusted about you. You're scum.

On February 28 2013 16:43 MilkSuckler wrote:
[b]Wade Fell[/ Anyone else that knows VE/b]
I assume you know VE game well.

Is he capable of drastically changing up his meta/style between two/three games in a row?