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zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 16:04 GMT
#1028
Everyone who is voting for Adam for policy reasons needs to rethink their life, or at least their mafia play.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 16:10 GMT
#1032
On February 28 2013 00:59 Acrofales wrote:
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On February 28 2013 00:53 zarepath wrote:
On February 28 2013 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wait, Cora so what do you think about Adam saying that he would do it again?


Do you think that scum would EVER say that???

He has stated, in no uncertain terms, that he KNOWS it was horribly anti-town. Why would a townie EVER say that?


I can't find that statement anywhere... I found a statement where he suggests people will give him a hard time post-game.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 16:13 GMT
#1033
On February 28 2013 01:07 Alderan wrote:
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On February 28 2013 01:03 zarepath wrote:
Alderan, will you vote for Keirathi then? Adam looks more town than Keirathi does.


I will vote for whoever my vote would kill.

On the one hand if we kill Adam we set a precedent that early out of line duels make you appear more scummy and thus people won't want to do them.

But then on the other hand Adam's reads have been better than Keirathi's imo.

Again, number one goal is that they both don't die.



If your priority is to make sure someone dies and there's not a double-lynch, then you MUST switch your vote (especially considering that the evidence you listed in this quote does more to suggest an Adam town than it does a Keirathi town).

Kill Keirathi. Your vote remaining on Adam does less to kill Adam than moving it onto Keirathi does to kill Keirathi.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 16:14 GMT
#1034
EBWOP: Forgot that Alderan is voting for nobody right now. I still think he should vote Keirathi.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 16:35 GMT
#1042
On February 28 2013 01:19 Acrofales wrote:
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On February 28 2013 01:10 zarepath wrote:
On February 28 2013 00:59 Acrofales wrote:
On February 28 2013 00:53 zarepath wrote:
On February 28 2013 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wait, Cora so what do you think about Adam saying that he would do it again?


Do you think that scum would EVER say that???

He has stated, in no uncertain terms, that he KNOWS it was horribly anti-town. Why would a townie EVER say that?


I can't find that statement anywhere... I found a statement where he suggests people will give him a hard time post-game.

Which means he knows he did something wrong, doesn't it? Now what did he do wrong? Well, that's in the post he quotes (quoted by me, and I quoted it from CT):
Show nested quote +

I find scum rarely do this, as they would rather just pounce on the person without actually giving them a chance to explain their behaviour, just in case the person has a reason for what they're doing, then the scum has to go find someone else to fabricate a case on. This is fake-able as scum, yes, but giving people a chance to explain themselves makes your job much harder.


This means he knows it was wrong. AKA anti-town.

And yet, he is unrepentant and warns that he will do it again.


That quote doesn't actually fully apply to this game. He didn't lynch Keirathi; he put Keirathi UP for lynch. Keirathi still has plenty of time to defend himself.

A far scummier response would have been just what I posted. A townie who realizes he may have made a bad decision, thanks to everyone yelling at him that he made a bad decision, would read your quote and be like "Yeah, that looks kind of bad. Crap."
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 16:38 GMT
#1045
Acro, you ARE INSANE. Why do you believe both to be scum??? One of them DUELED the other when somebody else was already WILLING to. Why in the world would scum duel each other day 1?

Double-lynching when one of the people dueled the other of his own volition is idiotic in this game. Anyone who is either not voting or is voting specifically for a double-lynch need to realize that they are relying completely on mafia being utterly retarded and not playing to their win condition in any way.

"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 16:38 GMT
#1047
HOLY CRAP that was the scummiest unvote in the world
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 16:40 GMT
#1048
Thrawn you wanted to DUEL Keirathi... why do you think that they are now BOTH scum??? That is literally the most unlikely scenario of all, and even before the duel, their interactions did NOT lead me to believe that they are conspiring together.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 16:41 GMT
#1049
Thrawn, what is your justification for wanting to double-lynch when they are definitely not both scum, and you clearly think one is more likely to be scum than the other?
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 16:49 GMT
#1054
Adam MAY be an evil 3P, and that's based on speculation. I'm not entirely against mentioning the possibility, but potentially mislynching two townies Day 1, the day we have the least amount of information, BASED on the possibility of a third party when the OP doesn't even mention any specific third party roles, is idiotic.

Do you know what's even more idiotic? Complaining about how awful Adam's early duel was, how much info/work it lost for town, etc., and then declaring a policy duel against anybody who asks you for your reads. That makes you just as anti-town as Adam if you were to fulfill that -- that would be two days in a row that town is robbed of deciding, together, who needs to be up for lynch. You think town can survive that? That's a HORRIBLE policy, and it's honestly just as bad as your horrible double-lynch.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 16:51 GMT
#1056
If there were scum in this lineup, don't you think they would fight against double-lynch and help town consolidate on the non-scum?

Instead we have an incredibly easy double-lynch about to occur that mafia must be super happy about, because they're not helping us to consolidate on anyone specific at all. That suggests that a double-lynch could EASILY be a double mislynch, exactly what scum want.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 16:58 GMT
#1060
On February 28 2013 01:51 Acrofales wrote:
His playstyle makes no sense as either alignment.


People don't play with labels on their heads reading "SCUM" or "TOWN," and they do not always play optimally or ideally, especially in weird formats like this one. I don't think you can declare someone 3P just because they don't play exactly according to your definition of what an ideal town or scum would do.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 17:00 GMT
#1063
On February 28 2013 01:55 Acrofales wrote:
I had said about 5 times that I thought Adam was 3P, yet you didn't read it. Are you sure you're town?


I didn't seriously think that you were willing to lynch based on that possibility.

And if I don't seem super town to you, perhaps I'm a 4P...
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 17:05 GMT
#1068
Thrawn, but that is just speculation that he is a 3P. You are basing your read on an IMAGINARY role that is not confirmed, and you are willing to potentially mislynch TWO townies for it.

Thrawn, you've called Keirathi scummy, Adam scummy, and suddenly you agree with this 3P theory that you haven't commented at all on previously, just conveniently in time to prevent a Keirathi single lynch and in time to clinch a double-lynch. This looks really bad for you, and I cannot see the town motivation for double lynching on a day when town didn't even get to pick who went up for lynch and there is virtually no possibility that they are both scum.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 17:05 GMT
#1069
On February 28 2013 02:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
if we kill adam too, nobody will dare to shoot early from now on


Policy is a horrible reason to potentially mislynch twice on Day 1
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 17:07 GMT
#1070
On February 28 2013 02:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
his desire to duel seems to have some sort of win-con type motivation.


Sorry to clutter the thread, but I keep finding things like this.

EVERY action from ANY player has some sort of win-con type motivation -- everyone is trying to win.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 17:10 GMT
#1072
Conquer your stupidity and KISS?
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 17:25 GMT
#1082
On February 28 2013 02:14 iamperfection wrote:
Kier is like confirmed scum he doesn't care about town. Anyone fearing a double town lynch is simply wrong


If you are so sure about Kier then vote for him. Doing anything else is a lack of conviction
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 18:04 GMT
#1094
On February 28 2013 03:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
i wanna know what keir and adam think about a double lynch

I'm sure they'll be all for it. -_-
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 27 2013 18:20 GMT
#1096
Acro, you're not being persuasive of your argument, you're being defensive. If you really want the double-lynch you need to persuade us, not tell people "eh, go read my filter."
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
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