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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On February 17 2013 11:18 layabout wrote: I need to proof read more, that sentence reads quite badly. What i meant was that hopeless1der's initial vote on yamato makes little sense as mafia, there was no real pressure on yamato+ Show Spoiler + (since my posts in general haven't carried much weight and the other votes where unexplained or joke votes by players without thread presence) + Show Spoiler + Hope that's clearer and answers your question Hopeless1eder does need to explain why he went for yamato over zess though. As to why zess is town i'm not sure if i can fully explain but he has been active, agressive and he has produced content. Reading through his filter it seems like if he is mafia then he has a very strange mindset. (plus syllo said so.) Aside from being a complete asshole with out of game consequences, Zess has provided more content, and sadly being an asshole in general made me shift my read back towards null on him. Finding out he's willing to spew meaningless banter if Toad is involved helped in that endeavor as well. I may not have articulated my thoughts about Yamato with my initial vote, but your case was spot on, especially where he takes the exact same evidence and finds a new conclusion. At the end of the day I considered that, and what marv had been doing trying to get Vivax lynched. I expect more activity out of the both of them, but Vivax felt worse, and I was thinking pretty much exactly what marv said in his case on vivax in that he wasnt pushing his reads. By the end of things, Vivax wasn't getting any votes and I didn't want to lynch Zess over Yamato especially with deadline fast approaching and the lynch not being set yet. I'd much rather have SS around longer than Yamato so I voted accordingly. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On February 17 2013 22:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Fair enough. That weakens my town read on him slightly. Still think he's town though. Glad to hear this. I'll also point out I clearly knew marv was going to be looking into me. On February 15 2013 10:18 Hopeless1der wrote: I look forward to it. I accept. ##Unvote: Zessionar ##Vote: Yamato77 On February 17 2013 22:50 ObviousOne wrote: Not sure why Coag is calling Marv town and buddying him. I don't feel like much of Coag's participation is insightful or useful up to this point. Who's Mattchew? risk.nuke doing a lot of attacking Zess on Yamato's behalf. Could be the emotional context of the Zess situation and the distinct lack of Yamato presence combined. I matched up on the Zess read with him D1 so I don't really hold it against him. I'd be concerned if he continues to push Zess today. Layabout seems to have the same idea as me regarding Hopeless. I give him some town cred for trying to get us shitposters to stop posting so shitty. Shit, he doesn't like Grush either. I like Layabout. ObviousOne, layabout disagrees with you about my alignment: On February 17 2013 11:18 layabout wrote: I need to proof read more, that sentence reads quite badly. What i meant was that hopeless1der's initial vote on yamato makes little sense as mafia, there was no real pressure on yamato+ Show Spoiler + (since my posts in general haven't carried much weight and the other votes where unexplained or joke votes by players without thread presence) + Show Spoiler + Hope that's clearer and answers your question Hopeless1eder does need to explain why he went for yamato over zess though. As to why zess is town i'm not sure if i can fully explain but he has been active, agressive and he has produced content. Reading through his filter it seems like if he is mafia then he has a very strange mindset. (plus syllo said so.) What are you basing your assessment on? @ the recent grush vs Toad That looks like a townie spat to me. Toad knew exactly what he was talking about, grush has mad confirmation bias. On February 17 2013 19:06 syllogism wrote: I think we should eliminate one of the non-contributors today. I'm finding it almost impossible to form at mafia team that doesn't include at least one such a player and even if we miss, it's not a disaster. If you feel that the description applies to you, now is the time to start investing time in the game because the clock is ticking. I'd expect you to have a shortlist of people falling into this category. Care to share? | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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Vivax
21768 Posts
On February 17 2013 09:59 Hopeless1der wrote: Where did vivax go..? ##Vote: Vivax On February 17 2013 10:26 Hopeless1der wrote: Oh it doesnt. The part where you have no apparent reasons for calling Zess scum are what got me. Hopeless is clearly using a double standard here, he calls me scum for not justifying my attack, but votes for me without mentioning a single reason on his own. ##Vote Hopeless1der I'm not convinced by the arguments saying he's town either. Aside from his connection with Zess, his play is reactive, doesn't show a motivation to pursue his own reads and doesn't coincide with his own line of thoughts as seen here. I don't buy his reasons for letting off Zess either, I believe the whole reason for giving him slack is that Zess isn't at danger of being lynched anymore. Might post more later if I find the time. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
and you need to get votes off of yamato voters, there is almost certainly mafia that didn't end up on him | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On February 17 2013 23:54 layabout wrote: obviousone my read on Hopeless1der changed because of yamato's flip some of the stuff i said earlier still stands. and you need to get votes off of yamato voters, there is almost certainly mafia that didn't end up on him That list is only 4 people right? Vivax Obvious grush and Coag. The only one I like in there is Vivax. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Coag describing his own play] + On October 06 2012 04:51 Coagulation wrote: why the fuck am I on the list? Im sorry but I have done nothing to look scummy at all. Maybe im not the most active player here but that sure as fuck doesnt indicate that im scum in any way. On October 06 2012 06:41 Coagulation wrote: I dont have meta. I play however I feel like playing. + Show Spoiler [Coag post Regarding activity] + On October 08 2012 09:06 Coagulation wrote: oh please. People pushing shit doesnt mean they are fucking town in the slightest. I generally spend more time "contributing" as scum than I do as town just for that stupid misconception alone. Many one-sentence (or less) posts, reacting to various things in the thread. Looks the same here. 15+ pages in a 6-day game. ~15-16 posts/real day average I guess (didn't count exactly), here he's at 41 after 3+ putting him slightly under that benchmark. Quick to call out bullshit and laugh things off until town is in real danger of losing, where rage-mode begins. We're not at that point in this game. He took a strong town lead, followed by floundering to town loss, poorly and lavished them with capslock. Marv was in this game, as was risk.nuke and Mattchew, so they might be better equipped, if they remember the game, to confirm this. I can't say definitively one way or another, but my opinion is his meta matches a previous town game at least up to this point. It probably comes down to judging him solely on who he thinks is scum and the reasons for that. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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ObviousOne
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
what are you gonna do if mattchew doesn't come back and why him over coag? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On February 18 2013 00:29 layabout wrote: artanis the list is just the people outside of the 9 that killed yamato no need to get mad. what are you gonna do if mattchew doesn't come back and why him over coag? Not mad, just found it funny to copy your post. Keep my vote on him unless he can't be lynched in which case I'll lynch whomever else I think is most scummy. I'm voting Matt because I want him to come back to the thread. If he's not coming back then he's either useless town or lurking scum. Voting on him might actually get more information regarding his alignment whereas I have little hope I'd get anything out of Coag right now since Coag does what Coag wants to do. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On February 17 2013 10:50 marvellosity wrote: in any case, off the top of my head right now I want to lynch into Matt + OO, plus anything interesting comes up when i look around tomorrow. There's been some quite interesting interactions between people recently Which one would you prefer? Found any interesting interactions? | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
Vivax opened extremely similar to Yamato in attacking my first post about me playing as if marv was town. Both pushed the idea that it was a bad opening and scummy but without actually saying why. Yamato went to questions and Vivax went with a sarcastic vote and never pushed the idea further after it gained no traction with town. He votes yamato with no reasoning. Only later to change that vote. Weird coincidence or super soft bus on someone he knew wouldn't fire back on him (which yamato never did) Grush is not trolly or confident enough this game as he usually is as town. Too many trynabetroll accusations to guide the thread in voting and never even spoke about yamato though being quite active and voting for like 6 other people. ##Vote: Vivax | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
1h 15 minutes to lynch Zessionar (6) - yamato77, Vivax, grush57, ObviousOne, risk.nuke, Artanix[XP] yamato77 (4) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia, syllogism WeWinMafia (2) - sandroba, marvellosity HiroPro (1) - Coagulation Not Voting: Coagulation, Mattchew, Zessionar, Hopeless1der 25 minutes to lynch yamato77 (7) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia, syllogism, sandroba, Zessionar, marvellosity Zessionar (5) - yamato77, Vivax, ObviousOne, risk.nuke, Artanix[XP] HiroPro (1) - Coagulation Vivax (1) - Hopeless1der risk.nuke (1) - grush57 this move is very interesting. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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