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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 17 2013 16:14 GMT
#1261
@Matt I read shit wrong like 3 times or more so far. Not really having much going for me at this point. If you can find something redeeming about me at this point it would boost my confidence just a touch.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 17 2013 16:19 GMT
#1262
i think a lot of the pressure on you stems from your lack of activity, the fact you were wrong, and the annoyance that came with some of your earlier posts. I don't see anything hidden in terms of your thought process or reads when asked. Of the list of players in this game you, zess and yamato were the only ones i dont think i recongnized meaning you 3 are all probably pretty new .. funny how that works out in terms of suspicions. From your posts I don't see that you don't want to contribute but more of a don't know how to contribute until asked questions.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 16:25 GMT
#1263
Hello Matt, glad you could join us.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 16:35 GMT
#1264
On February 18 2013 01:10 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
1h 15 minutes to lynch
Zessionar (6) - yamato77, Vivax, grush57, ObviousOne, risk.nuke, Artanix[XP]
yamato77 (4) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia, syllogism
WeWinMafia (2) - sandroba, marvellosity
HiroPro (1) - Coagulation
Not Voting: Coagulation, Mattchew, Zessionar, Hopeless1der

Show nested quote +
25 minutes to lynch
yamato77 (7) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia, syllogism, sandroba, Zessionar, marvellosity
Zessionar (5) - yamato77, Vivax, ObviousOne, risk.nuke, Artanix[XP]
HiroPro (1) - Coagulation
Vivax (1) - Hopeless1der
risk.nuke (1) - grush57


this move is very interesting.

This only seems significant if Zessionar is scum too, presuming you're talking about the grush switch. Otherwise he'd be going from a town lynch steering towards a no lynch which would not only look bad for him but also prevent a townie from dying. Do you suspect Zessionar?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 17 2013 16:35 GMT
#1265
Its interesting from the vivax switch
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 16:45 GMT
#1266
On February 18 2013 01:35 Mattchew wrote:
Its interesting from the vivax switch

But vivax stayed on Zess on both of these unless I'm missing something.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 17 2013 16:51 GMT
#1267
bah your right... fucking names changing places
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
WeWinMafia
Profile Joined February 2013
Bahamas102 Posts
February 17 2013 16:53 GMT
#1268
what do you make of this Matt?

17 hours to lynch
yamato77 (5) - Zessionar, Vivax, HiroPro, layabout, Hopeless1der
HiroPro (2) - Coagulation, marvellosity
Zessionar (2) - Artanis[XP], yamato77
marvellosity (1) - WeWinMafia
Coagulation (1) - grush57
Not Voting: ObviousOne, Coagulation, Mattchew, Zessionar, risk.nuke

From the looks of it (I'm busy right now, no time to check) he was the 2nd person to vote Yamato overall. Really early as well.
I'm having trouble picturing him doing that as mafia.

My PoV really short: I think we've got a mafia vet, as we do in pretty much every game. Actually I'm fairly certain but you have to figure that stuff out yourself. Asking the right kind of question might help. Said mafia vet is most likely going to be either Marv or Coag imo. I'd still lean on Marv given yesterday.

About the not so active players: I don't really want to lynch Vivax and Matt because of what I already said. Vivax because of the above quote. Matt because mafias don't usually risk getting themselved modkilled and pull a RoL instead. So that leaves Grush and OO right now. I'd LOVE lynching Grush but I'm going to sleep over that one to calm down a little...

Anyways I'm off playing some game of thrones boardgame with a couple of friends. See you tomorrow.
I win mafia!
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 17 2013 16:53 GMT
#1269
so vivax hopped ship even earlier.. i don't think that influences my thought process. Vivax was on an early 5 vote candidate that had potential to be lynched and switched to a 2 or 3 vote candidate without ever giving rhyme or reasoning for voting or unvoting the first
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 17 2013 16:55 GMT
#1270
On February 18 2013 01:53 WeWinMafia wrote:
what do you make of this Matt?

Show nested quote +
17 hours to lynch
yamato77 (5) - Zessionar, Vivax, HiroPro, layabout, Hopeless1der
HiroPro (2) - Coagulation, marvellosity
Zessionar (2) - Artanis[XP], yamato77
marvellosity (1) - WeWinMafia
Coagulation (1) - grush57
Not Voting: ObviousOne, Coagulation, Mattchew, Zessionar, risk.nuke

From the looks of it (I'm busy right now, no time to check) he was the 2nd person to vote Yamato overall. Really early as well.
I'm having trouble picturing him doing that as mafia.

My PoV really short: I think we've got a mafia vet, as we do in pretty much every game. Actually I'm fairly certain but you have to figure that stuff out yourself. Asking the right kind of question might help. Said mafia vet is most likely going to be either Marv or Coag imo. I'd still lean on Marv given yesterday.

About the not so active players: I don't really want to lynch Vivax and Matt because of what I already said. Vivax because of the above quote. Matt because mafias don't usually risk getting themselved modkilled and pull a RoL instead. So that leaves Grush and OO right now. I'd LOVE lynching Grush but I'm going to sleep over that one to calm down a little...

Anyways I'm off playing some game of thrones boardgame with a couple of friends. See you tomorrow.

as i've said he had a vote on yamato, but where was his reasoning or pushing?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 17 2013 17:00 GMT
#1271
Sandro when you come back, could you take a look at the new content by the people on your list and tell me if that changed anything. I would like to reach a decision well in advance of the lynch deadline. Oblivious looks maybe a bit better to me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 17 2013 17:01 GMT
#1272
Matt, what do you make of hopeless and Zess? Were you subtly saying you think Zess is scum since you said I was bussing him?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 17 2013 17:02 GMT
#1273
syllo what do you make of vivax's vote on yamato. And his early on post directed at me
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 17 2013 17:04 GMT
#1274
On February 18 2013 02:01 Vivax wrote:
Matt, what do you make of hopeless and Zess? Were you subtly saying you think Zess is scum since you said I was bussing him?

no your super soft bus was on yamato

I don't think that there is almost any chance scum were both of the only 2 real lynch candidates yesterday. I don't think Zess is scum at all.

Hopeless i am going to re-read.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 17 2013 17:09 GMT
#1275
Oh you mean super soft bus. Not SuperSoft bus.

How does a pressure vote on yamato make me mafia, explain.
Why do you think Zess is town?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 17 2013 17:11 GMT
#1276
On February 18 2013 02:02 Mattchew wrote:
syllo what do you make of vivax's vote on yamato. And his early on post directed at me

Vivax/Yamato interactions are slightly suspicious. In particular the random "Oh, and Vivax is a jackass." reply from Yamato. It's difficult to distinguish if that's just due to him being mafia or because they both are.

You were here around the time when wbg made the day 2 post; why did you disappear and not post anything until around 18 hours later? You specifically said you were waiting for night kills until commenting and typically players react to the day post in some way anyway.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 17 2013 17:13 GMT
#1277
To remind you:
On February 15 2013 02:23 Vivax wrote:
Marv, you're a party pooper.
That was semi-serious, according to yamato you need a justification for every pressure you apply as town, and if you don't justify it you're mafia?


Cherry on top:

On February 15 2013 03:15 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 02:23 Vivax wrote:
Marv, you're a party pooper.
That was semi-serious, according to yamato you need a justification for every pressure you apply as town, and if you don't justify it you're mafia?

If you dont/cant/wont justify your actions, you shouldnt be talking because its just pointless noise.
Yam has the right of the matter, get your head out of your ass.


On February 15 2013 10:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 09:26 marvellosity wrote:
to your question about the strongest townplayers. I have very little grasp of any of super/syllo/toad's alignments. At all. Perhaps I lean a bit town on syllo because he was attentive in picking up things, and yet he's not pushed much.

On February 15 2013 08:29 Zessionar wrote:
and who is the scummiest player among these:

HiroPro
Hopeless1der
Artanis[Xp]
yamato77
grush57
layabout


Hopeless. Will explain later/tomorrow.

I look forward to it.


Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 10:11 layabout wrote:
because you know, yamato was pretty vague in his accusations:

He also jumps from "Zess being stupid with that vote" to "I do think Zess is likely mafia at this point. His attempts at "scum hunting" are truly pathetic.
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 15 2013 00:33 yamato77 wrote:
I've never seen syllo and sandro in the game at the same time, yet I'm supposed to know they're all buddy buddy all the time?

Zess being stupid with that vote. Why are you trying to accuse me over questioning syllo's intentions?



+ Show Spoiler +
On February 15 2013 01:51 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 01:45 syllogism wrote:
On February 15 2013 01:40 yamato77 wrote:
On February 15 2013 01:33 risk.nuke wrote:
On February 15 2013 01:25 yamato77 wrote:
On February 15 2013 01:23 risk.nuke wrote:
I don't think Zess likes me. Not actually sure if he's mafia or idiot.

Why don't you think Zess likes you, and why is his opinion of you alignment indicative at all?

Read his posts and tell me if you reach a different conclusion otherwise I can't really be bothered to copying his posts and interpreting them for you..

It's not. However making up reasoning is.

Well I guess it makes sense since he jumped on me for the same kind of shit.

Do I see a trend appear? Who's next on his list, Marv?

This post seems off; do you think marv and risk are town? What is your current read on Zess?

Marv I would say looks quite town, yes. I don't know about risk, but the fact that he's looking at Zess is encouraging.

I do think Zess is likely mafia at this point. His attempts at "scum hunting" are truly pathetic.

Suddenly zess being "stupid" has become zess is "bad" and "is mafia" because of this. The criticism is the same in both cases but the conclusion changes.

When asked to clarify why zess is scum he describes his scumhunting as "careless" which tend to be a townie trait. And that he shows a "disregard for justification" which he himself has also shown.+ Show Spoiler +
On February 15 2013 02:00 yamato77 wrote:
I'm attacking how he is scum hunting, which is carelessly and with no regard for justification.


I think yamato felt that he could safely put his vote on zessionar following (Artanis[Xp] and Hopeless1der) because he had been the center of discussion. He was not prepared to back it up because he has no good reasons and because he is mafia and wants to get his vote down and hide from attention.


I accept.
##Unvote: Zessionar
##Vote: Yamato77


Open your eyes. This dude is scum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 17 2013 17:15 GMT
#1278
On February 18 2013 01:53 WeWinMafia wrote:
what do you make of this Matt?

Show nested quote +
17 hours to lynch
yamato77 (5) - Zessionar, Vivax, HiroPro, layabout, Hopeless1der
HiroPro (2) - Coagulation, marvellosity
Zessionar (2) - Artanis[XP], yamato77
marvellosity (1) - WeWinMafia
Coagulation (1) - grush57
Not Voting: ObviousOne, Coagulation, Mattchew, Zessionar, risk.nuke

From the looks of it (I'm busy right now, no time to check) he was the 2nd person to vote Yamato overall. Really early as well.
I'm having trouble picturing him doing that as mafia.

My PoV really short: I think we've got a mafia vet, as we do in pretty much every game. Actually I'm fairly certain but you have to figure that stuff out yourself. Asking the right kind of question might help. Said mafia vet is most likely going to be either Marv or Coag imo. I'd still lean on Marv given yesterday.

About the not so active players: I don't really want to lynch Vivax and Matt because of what I already said. Vivax because of the above quote. Matt because mafias don't usually risk getting themselved modkilled and pull a RoL instead. So that leaves Grush and OO right now. I'd LOVE lynching Grush but I'm going to sleep over that one to calm down a little...

Anyways I'm off playing some game of thrones boardgame with a couple of friends. See you tomorrow.


go look at kita's database. this is empirically a false statement.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 17 2013 17:16 GMT
#1279
On February 18 2013 02:11 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:02 Mattchew wrote:
syllo what do you make of vivax's vote on yamato. And his early on post directed at me

Vivax/Yamato interactions are slightly suspicious. In particular the random "Oh, and Vivax is a jackass." reply from Yamato. It's difficult to distinguish if that's just due to him being mafia or because they both are.

You were here around the time when wbg made the day 2 post; why did you disappear and not post anything until around 18 hours later? You specifically said you were waiting for night kills until commenting and typically players react to the day post in some way anyway.

i got a lot going on that changes my schedule by the hour.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 17 2013 17:18 GMT
#1280
Another thing, Hero Mini Mafia: Djodref tries to start a last minute bandwagon off Adam, scum VE who had his vote on his scumbuddy Adam shouts at him "STOP IT YOU FUCK" and pushes for the lynch.
So much for the argument that hopeless isn't scum for his yamato vote. Why should scum disregard the cred for lynching someone day 1 who would probably be lynched the next day? It would only be risky for them to delay the lynch and be responsible for it.

Looking at the wagon isn't reliable. Scum has an easy time having their votes on the right place.
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