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On February 16 2013 07:34 risk.nuke wrote:
Can't for the life of me understand what yamato have done to warrant being lynched over Zess. Seriously what are you doing! Zess who straight out changed his mind about his reasoning when questioned. That fucking translates to he made up his reasoning.
Can somebody tell me why a townie would do that?
On February 15 2013 19:58 risk.nuke wrote:
I don't like the Yamato wagon. The initial voters Zess(now withdrawn) and Vivax reasoning are straight out terrible.
Hiro's reasoning is quite weak, and quite disappointing after he dropped his big vote now I'll explain later.
The only one's reasoning that has a point is Layabout's. But even so I don't think the leap between bad and scum is that suspicious.
I told myself that this morning I'd have figured out who I want to lynch but well.
We have basically no performance from Obvious, Coag, Mattchew, Vivax, Grush.
Pretty disappointing performances from Syllo, Sandroba and Marv who've done zero scumhunting.
Are you still waiting for the game to start?
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On February 18 2013 02:50 Mattchew wrote:
risk vote switched right alongside marv and art in a time period where it was highly unlikely any of them knew how the others would react. idk why scum would do that
he could have shot his own gf at this point and I wouldnt care. dude is scum. also as syllo said there was plenty of people on the deadline up for switching, safest move for mafia would be to bus for some cred. The chance of yamato not getting lynch i would say was pretty slim.
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Don't even know why you're disputing that point, if anything it's a point in his disfavour.
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@vivax can you read? tell me where he comments about yamato's behavior? he attacks people on the wagon and says other dude who is town is scummier. 3rd post you quoted doesnt even belong and is an empty complain that he himself was guilty of.
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Well you have a point saying he doesn't talk about yamato, but he sure is defending him.
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I'm disputing that he fought against yamato's wagon exactly like a typical scum would. He didnt "defend yamato pretty vigorously" as you claim. He attacked people voting for him and the townie on the other wagon.
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It's particularly strange that he doesn't comment on yamato because a few people found yamato's interactions with him suspicious.
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Well I'll trust your judgement then, you have to shoot today anyway.
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=( syllo don't you have 2 shots? Can you shoot more than once a day?
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@hopeless you commented on the gun usage, but no comments on risk.nuke?
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On February 18 2013 03:13 sandroba wrote:
=( syllo don't you have 2 shots? Can you shoot more than once a day?
I considered lying by claiming that if I use it as a day shot I could only shoot once and hope that would keep me from being shot or RBed tonight, but I doubt that would work since Artanis already revealed that I've two bullets. In addition, I might get shot anyway or even be poisoned already. So to answer the question, I can only shoot once per cycle.
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Yeah, sucks. I didn't realize you could shoot at the day or I wouldn't have mentioned it at all since I figured you wouldn't reveal yourself as to not get roleblocked.
I'm fine with a Risk.Nuke shot. Looks like a good shot at getting scum and even if we miss, we're still in a good position.
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You're the experts compared to me. I don't find anything redeeming in Risk's filter after looking through it twice.
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If risk flips scum I'll nominate you for awesomeness.
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On February 18 2013 03:15 sandroba wrote:
@hopeless you commented on the gun usage, but no comments on risk.nuke?
I'm fine with shooting Risk. I was curious if syllo would let us direct his shot, but as he's taking suggestions from you, its almost the same thing.
On February 16 2013 07:34 risk.nuke wrote:
Can't for the life of me understand what yamato have done to warrant being lynched over Zess. Seriously what are you doing! Zess who straight out changed his mind about his reasoning when questioned. That fucking translates to he made up his reasoning.
Can somebody tell me why a townie would do that?
Remember layabout's case on Yamato?
Yamato's reasoning changed as well, but risk can't understand for his life why. Looks like he doesn't need that life after all.
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Hopeless, can you address Syllo's points?
On February 18 2013 02:24 syllogism wrote:Sandro: does hopeless1der still look the same to you? Him jumping on the yamato wagon pretty early, then randomly switching to Zessionar only to fairly weakly unvote a bit later strikes suspicious to me. He didn't really explain why his yamato suspicions waned or why he found vivax more suspicious. His original reasons for voting yamato were still all applicable, but he didn't turn around until almost last possible moment. He also seemed to have forgotten why he found yamatos suspicious in the first place.
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- Jumping on Yamato was because of layabout's case and I'll keep tooting that horn.
- I don't think my switch to Zess was all that random. My unvote is based on the fact that marv and syllo had looked at Zess and said nope would not lynch. I see grush and Obvious getting onto that wagon and that left me with a sour taste in my mouth. I've also commented on it here:+ Show Spoiler +On February 17 2013 23:19 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 11:18 layabout wrote:On February 17 2013 10:16 Vivax wrote:On February 17 2013 09:41 layabout wrote:
vivax you are calling hopeless1der scum based on the assumption that zessionar is scum.
but both of them look pretty town.
hopeless's first vote occurred when i was there was very little pressure on yamato, and he easily has justified moving to and stayingon zessionar. It makes little sense for him to be mafia. What makes you think Zess is town, and how is the justification of his Zess vote genuine when it was in response to marv's suspicion? I need to proof read more, that sentence reads quite badly. What i meant was that hopeless1der's initial vote on yamato makes little sense as mafia, there was no real pressure on yamato + Show Spoiler +(since my posts in general haven't carried much weight and the other votes where unexplained or joke votes by players without thread presence) plus after his vote there were enough votes on yamato to force people to pay attention to yamato, which is not what the mafia should want. Later he could very easily have justified staying on zessionar over yamato since that was more consistent with his previous posts, in which he had attacked zessionar repeatedly. + Show Spoiler +Hope that's clearer and answers your question As to why zess is town i'm not sure if i can fully explain but he has been active, agressive and he has produced content. Reading through his filter it seems like if he is mafia then he has a very strange mindset. (plus syllo said so.) Aside from being a complete asshole with out of game consequences, Zess has provided more content, and sadly being an asshole in general made me shift my read back towards null on him. Finding out he's willing to spew meaningless banter if Toad is involved helped in that endeavor as well. I may not have articulated my thoughts about Yamato with my initial vote, but your case was spot on, especially where he takes the exact same evidence and finds a new conclusion. At the end of the day I considered that, and what marv had been doing trying to get Vivax lynched. I expect more activity out of the both of them, but Vivax felt worse, and I was thinking pretty much exactly what marv said in his case on vivax in that he wasnt pushing his reads. By the end of things, Vivax wasn't getting any votes and I didn't want to lynch Zess over Yamato especially with deadline fast approaching and the lynch not being set yet. I'd much rather have SS around longer than Yamato so I voted accordingly.
- My original reasons for voting Yamato never went away, I was being facetious at Vivax.
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On February 18 2013 01:09 Mattchew wrote:
After reading some filters I have determined this from my opinion that Vivax and Grush are mafia.
Vivax opened extremely similar to Yamato in attacking my first post about me playing as if marv was town. Both pushed the idea that it was a bad opening and scummy but without actually saying why. Yamato went to questions and Vivax went with a sarcastic vote and never pushed the idea further after it gained no traction with town.
He votes yamato with no reasoning. Only later to change that vote. Weird coincidence or super soft bus on someone he knew wouldn't fire back on him (which yamato never did)
Grush is not trolly or confident enough this game as he usually is as town. Too many trynabetroll accusations to guide the thread in voting and never even spoke about yamato though being quite active and voting for like 6 other people.
##Vote: Vivax
he isn't trolly so he is scum!
hooray!
On February 18 2013 03:17 Coagulation wrote:
shoot risk
Nice to see you, shoot coag
Also what to you guys think about townies not claiming getting rbed/shot?
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