It's kinda weird if you are not mafia, since you seem to already know how that implicates you. I must say I'm not completely confident in your flip, since if you are mafia that was a terrific performance. However, given what happened it would be quite silly not to lynch you.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 17 2013 20:03 GMT

#1343

all it means is that my reads are bad.

or do you mean it implicates me because risk jumped on the yamato wagon straight after me?

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

February 17 2013 20:04 GMT

#1344

sandroba, do you think one of me and vivax are likely scum? (probably me at this point?)

Zessionar

Azerbaijan178 Posts

February 17 2013 20:04 GMT

#1345

okay well. I think we have a lot of time left...
we should discuss other targets and i am not ignoring alternative options, marv.
There are reasons to call you scum but there are also things that contradict that assumption. I am not in a tunnel right now, but the facts look really bad.

I don't want to waste the day arguing with you whether you're scum or not.
You don't have to tell me, why you might be town, i see that for myself.

The one thing i want (beg?) you to do is: work on the thread and push other targets, don't spam up the thread with 1000 defensive posts (like I did :-/)

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 17 2013 20:04 GMT

#1346

anyway i have a suggestion.

Feel free to lynch me today, I can see there's no getting out of that.

But interact with me when I'm around as if I'm a townie. Don't just go "LOL HE IS MAFIA DON'T LISTEN"

because in my time remaining in the game i'd quite like to be able to find the other mafia.

deal?

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

February 17 2013 20:04 GMT

#1347

well there is several stuff, but that too. If one mafia was going to make that switch for town cred, it's likely more mafia would come too. Since risk was switching mafia knew yamato was gone. Why not have other scum make the same move?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 17 2013 20:05 GMT

#1348

just as an example.

say i flip town. what implications does that have about the other people on the yamato wagon? or doesn't it?

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

February 17 2013 20:06 GMT

#1349

As I said I'm not confident at all, it just seems logical and I believe you can fool me with your performance. You got a deal anyways.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

February 17 2013 20:07 GMT

#1350

Can someone say exactly why this means Marv is scum because I'm missing the logic here.

Zessionar

Azerbaijan178 Posts

February 17 2013 20:07 GMT

#1351

yeah and i fully agree with sandroba there, if you're mafia, you're performing really really well...
Your problem is, that you're quite the only guy I expect to be able to perform that well when scum :D
But some facts make you look really scummy... e.g. your reads, your vote on me, toads shot etc. :-/

But if you're town, don't screw the day and try to nail the 2 remaining scummers...

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 17 2013 20:08 GMT

#1352

Cool. Like, if we hadn't killed 2 mafia for 0 town losses I'd be kicking and screaming.

But sandroba just found nuke (super strong townie) and syllogism shot him (another super strong townie). So it's not like it matters too much if I die.

As super suggests I'm not gonna bother saying the obvious reasons I'm town. Anyway, I have dinner, so I'll be around later to talk to y'all.

sandroba, first up - thoughts on Hopeless now? (again, under the assumption I'm town, please. just think about it that way.)

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

February 17 2013 20:08 GMT

#1353

Well it would be awesome if you could tell me that. We have one more flip to derive stuff from, how does that affect your reads?

Zessionar

Azerbaijan178 Posts

February 17 2013 20:08 GMT

#1354

On February 18 2013 05:04 marvellosity wrote:
anyway i have a suggestion.

Feel free to lynch me today, I can see there's no getting out of that.

But interact with me when I'm around as if I'm a townie. Don't just go "LOL HE IS MAFIA DON'T LISTEN"

because in my time remaining in the game i'd quite like to be able to find the other mafia.

deal?

Yes that's exactly the deal i want!!!

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

February 17 2013 20:09 GMT

#1355

Not sure, I'll have to read him again. Currently riding the mafia assassination rush =P

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

February 17 2013 20:10 GMT

#1356

I'm absolutely open to listening to everything you say.

However, your dropped activity, changed tone, what you wrote about risk before the day post and the fact you attacked people voting both risk and yamato on day 1 makes you a pretty compelling lynch today.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 17 2013 20:12 GMT

#1357

On February 18 2013 05:08 sandroba wrote:
Well it would be awesome if you could tell me that. We have one more flip to derive stuff from, how does that affect your reads?

i have dinner right now. There's some things that changed since the daypost with my reads.

I'm no longer so paranoid about Zessionar. I think super is just insane, so that's fine (no offence intended)

I'm less red on coag, matt, and OO than I was then. Which is why I thought risk had a better chance of flipping mafia now.

Actually I kinad desperately want Hopeless to be mafia, because that would make at least one read i have right.

I still really think grush is town.

Toad... well, Toad. his 'vig shot' on me stunt is the kinda shit he pulls as town all the time. and i can understand him being upset if i apparently think he's mafia for no reason. the thing is, when i flip town, that'll be marv/zess/sand/syllo who all apparently flipped town.

Hiro still looks ok for pushing yamato.

that's all off the top of my head. see you all later