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On February 14 2013 09:48 Mocsta wrote:People I would spend time pressuring Day2: + Show Spoiler [Testsubject (2nd new guy)] +
Give him 24hrs to read the 40 pages; by then, he better have a scum read, otherwise it might be pertinent to discuss a policy lynch.
I re-read his filter; and this guy just flip flops constantly and tries to join whatever bandwagon he can. He is also constantly referencing old-games; either himself as town, or me as scum. I judge people by their actions in-game; he seems to be avoiding this, as when he even admits 'he doesnt have strong opinions" middle of Day1, and what has been shared since then, seems to be the same.He is still one of my strongest scum reads
This guy has not done much all game, other than offer excuse after excuse. I have not seen anything that I interpret as town aligned; so he is null for me. That is the problem; I would expect by Day2, people have offered enough to be towny, or scummy. Why is he in the middle? This guy needs to be put in the interrogation room, like NOW!
Need I say more? This guy has shown glimmers of trying to figure out the game, and then does the oddest shit from that.
- Put a defense on warbaby by attacking me (The case was refuted easily)
- Gives a non-chalant response towards the mislynch.
- The case of Corazon reads as if there is no conviction. Which is surprising; why make the case if you do not believe in it? Surely this isnt another Glurio trying to claim a "zarepath" experiment.
- Another weird thing with Geript is his opening vote on warbaby; as an "experiment" yet when I come after warbaby, he jumps straight in to be warbaby knight in shining armour
So these are your scum reads, Mocsta? 50% of them are lurkers or weren't even in the game yet. So you've got a scum read on me, and a dead town.
Why are you still ignoring my questions on what you think about Corazon? You did not mention him at all in your "Last Will", even though he was on the wagon with you D1.
Our only (probably) confirmed town, TestSubject, is asking you about Corazon. You really need to respond to me, or him.
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On February 15 2013 14:10 cDgCorazon wrote:These are the posts that I've made that include your name since I said I was done attacking you until you decided that I was attacking you still. + Show Spoiler +On February 15 2013 07:29 cDgCorazon wrote:
Also, I'd like to add that you thinking WB is town and that I am scum for tunneling someone you think is town is ridiculously WIFOM based. I did the same thing (except in the opposite direction) and I was called out for it by Sn0. I'm doing the same to you now. It's possible for two townies to be tunneling each other (see Acid and WB in the last NMM). On February 15 2013 07:50 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 07:40 TestSubject893 wrote:
Cora, like I already said, the wording of your posts and timing of your actions at the end of D1 and N1 just strike me as especially scummy. When we look at your actions alone, it amounts to nearly ideal mafia play if you can get away with it and the environment you posted your will in and the way it was worded just really jumped out at me as "Hey look at me, just another townie". I don't see that as WIFOM at all. Someone going out of their way to get town cred is scummy, there is no speculation or leveling here.
I'm not sure there's much you can say that will change my mind right now either. I understand you have given reasoning for your actions, but it all just lined up too well for me to not be suspicious still. We've got plenty of time before potentially lynching you, so for now you're just sitting at the top of my list. Convince me someone else is scummier if you want out of that spot.
As for me thinking WB is probably town being WIFOM, I don't really see that either. He strikes me as someone who isn't putting a lot of thought into his strategy. That's really all that read comes down to.
So that brings me to a question for you. What did you think was WIFOM based about my argument to begin with? Well if there's literally nothing I can do to change your mind, that's called confirmation bias.You've said that my actions D1 and N1 have been scummy. I'm guessing you don't agree with my reasoning to vote Glurio. Let's say I am scum. I've been tunneling WB (I'll admit it) almost all of D1. Why would I switch to Glurio so late and in such an obviously bad place if I were scum? Why would I go and cement the lynch of a townie when I could just sit on WB (assuming he is town/that I am scum) and everyone would be ok with that. I'm saying your arguments are WIFOM is because you are saying WB is town, so I must be scum for going after him. Either that or you think I am scum, so WB is automatically town to you. Either way is just so much WIFOM, and failing to take into account that town does not know who the other towns are. Town wanting to vote out other towns is a possibility in this game, don't forget that. I called for the town to lynch an active voice, and no one responded to my call. As such, I was forced to choose between 2/3 sub-optimal lynches. I never said I was happy with the lynch. The problem I have with your argument (once again) is that you're only focusing on me and my vote when 2 other people contributed to lynch Glurio, and 5-6 votes were wasted. Please answer those questions as well, because I'm starting to get the feeling you are tunneling me and getting confirmation bias, which is bad. On February 15 2013 07:50 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 07:40 TestSubject893 wrote:
Cora, like I already said, the wording of your posts and timing of your actions at the end of D1 and N1 just strike me as especially scummy. When we look at your actions alone, it amounts to nearly ideal mafia play if you can get away with it and the environment you posted your will in and the way it was worded just really jumped out at me as "Hey look at me, just another townie". I don't see that as WIFOM at all. Someone going out of their way to get town cred is scummy, there is no speculation or leveling here.
I'm not sure there's much you can say that will change my mind right now either. I understand you have given reasoning for your actions, but it all just lined up too well for me to not be suspicious still. We've got plenty of time before potentially lynching you, so for now you're just sitting at the top of my list. Convince me someone else is scummier if you want out of that spot.
As for me thinking WB is probably town being WIFOM, I don't really see that either. He strikes me as someone who isn't putting a lot of thought into his strategy. That's really all that read comes down to.
So that brings me to a question for you. What did you think was WIFOM based about my argument to begin with? Well if there's literally nothing I can do to change your mind, that's called confirmation bias.You've said that my actions D1 and N1 have been scummy. I'm guessing you don't agree with my reasoning to vote Glurio. Let's say I am scum. I've been tunneling WB (I'll admit it) almost all of D1. Why would I switch to Glurio so late and in such an obviously bad place if I were scum? Why would I go and cement the lynch of a townie when I could just sit on WB (assuming he is town/that I am scum) and everyone would be ok with that. I'm saying your arguments are WIFOM is because you are saying WB is town, so I must be scum for going after him. Either that or you think I am scum, so WB is automatically town to you. Either way is just so much WIFOM, and failing to take into account that town does not know who the other towns are. Town wanting to vote out other towns is a possibility in this game, don't forget that. I called for the town to lynch an active voice, and no one responded to my call. As such, I was forced to choose between 2/3 sub-optimal lynches. I never said I was happy with the lynch. The problem I have with your argument (once again) is that you're only focusing on me and my vote when 2 other people contributed to lynch Glurio, and 5-6 votes were wasted. Please answer those questions as well, because I'm starting to get the feeling you are tunneling me and getting confirmation bias, which is bad. Please tell me where I attack you at all in these posts. Not posting about other players (because by the time I got back OO had been ousted as SK) does not mean I am attacking you still.
I'm not saying you're not attacking me (although you just started again), I'm saying you not doing anythig except talk about me.
You need to hunt more than 1 scum.
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On February 15 2013 14:13 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 14:10 cDgCorazon wrote:These are the posts that I've made that include your name since I said I was done attacking you until you decided that I was attacking you still. + Show Spoiler +On February 15 2013 07:29 cDgCorazon wrote:
Also, I'd like to add that you thinking WB is town and that I am scum for tunneling someone you think is town is ridiculously WIFOM based. I did the same thing (except in the opposite direction) and I was called out for it by Sn0. I'm doing the same to you now. It's possible for two townies to be tunneling each other (see Acid and WB in the last NMM). On February 15 2013 07:50 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 07:40 TestSubject893 wrote:
Cora, like I already said, the wording of your posts and timing of your actions at the end of D1 and N1 just strike me as especially scummy. When we look at your actions alone, it amounts to nearly ideal mafia play if you can get away with it and the environment you posted your will in and the way it was worded just really jumped out at me as "Hey look at me, just another townie". I don't see that as WIFOM at all. Someone going out of their way to get town cred is scummy, there is no speculation or leveling here.
I'm not sure there's much you can say that will change my mind right now either. I understand you have given reasoning for your actions, but it all just lined up too well for me to not be suspicious still. We've got plenty of time before potentially lynching you, so for now you're just sitting at the top of my list. Convince me someone else is scummier if you want out of that spot.
As for me thinking WB is probably town being WIFOM, I don't really see that either. He strikes me as someone who isn't putting a lot of thought into his strategy. That's really all that read comes down to.
So that brings me to a question for you. What did you think was WIFOM based about my argument to begin with? Well if there's literally nothing I can do to change your mind, that's called confirmation bias.You've said that my actions D1 and N1 have been scummy. I'm guessing you don't agree with my reasoning to vote Glurio. Let's say I am scum. I've been tunneling WB (I'll admit it) almost all of D1. Why would I switch to Glurio so late and in such an obviously bad place if I were scum? Why would I go and cement the lynch of a townie when I could just sit on WB (assuming he is town/that I am scum) and everyone would be ok with that. I'm saying your arguments are WIFOM is because you are saying WB is town, so I must be scum for going after him. Either that or you think I am scum, so WB is automatically town to you. Either way is just so much WIFOM, and failing to take into account that town does not know who the other towns are. Town wanting to vote out other towns is a possibility in this game, don't forget that. I called for the town to lynch an active voice, and no one responded to my call. As such, I was forced to choose between 2/3 sub-optimal lynches. I never said I was happy with the lynch. The problem I have with your argument (once again) is that you're only focusing on me and my vote when 2 other people contributed to lynch Glurio, and 5-6 votes were wasted. Please answer those questions as well, because I'm starting to get the feeling you are tunneling me and getting confirmation bias, which is bad. On February 15 2013 07:50 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 07:40 TestSubject893 wrote:
Cora, like I already said, the wording of your posts and timing of your actions at the end of D1 and N1 just strike me as especially scummy. When we look at your actions alone, it amounts to nearly ideal mafia play if you can get away with it and the environment you posted your will in and the way it was worded just really jumped out at me as "Hey look at me, just another townie". I don't see that as WIFOM at all. Someone going out of their way to get town cred is scummy, there is no speculation or leveling here.
I'm not sure there's much you can say that will change my mind right now either. I understand you have given reasoning for your actions, but it all just lined up too well for me to not be suspicious still. We've got plenty of time before potentially lynching you, so for now you're just sitting at the top of my list. Convince me someone else is scummier if you want out of that spot.
As for me thinking WB is probably town being WIFOM, I don't really see that either. He strikes me as someone who isn't putting a lot of thought into his strategy. That's really all that read comes down to.
So that brings me to a question for you. What did you think was WIFOM based about my argument to begin with? Well if there's literally nothing I can do to change your mind, that's called confirmation bias.You've said that my actions D1 and N1 have been scummy. I'm guessing you don't agree with my reasoning to vote Glurio. Let's say I am scum. I've been tunneling WB (I'll admit it) almost all of D1. Why would I switch to Glurio so late and in such an obviously bad place if I were scum? Why would I go and cement the lynch of a townie when I could just sit on WB (assuming he is town/that I am scum) and everyone would be ok with that. I'm saying your arguments are WIFOM is because you are saying WB is town, so I must be scum for going after him. Either that or you think I am scum, so WB is automatically town to you. Either way is just so much WIFOM, and failing to take into account that town does not know who the other towns are. Town wanting to vote out other towns is a possibility in this game, don't forget that. I called for the town to lynch an active voice, and no one responded to my call. As such, I was forced to choose between 2/3 sub-optimal lynches. I never said I was happy with the lynch. The problem I have with your argument (once again) is that you're only focusing on me and my vote when 2 other people contributed to lynch Glurio, and 5-6 votes were wasted. Please answer those questions as well, because I'm starting to get the feeling you are tunneling me and getting confirmation bias, which is bad. Please tell me where I attack you at all in these posts. Not posting about other players ( because by the time I got back OO had been ousted as SK) does not mean I am attacking you still. I'm not giving out scum reads because at this point OO is going to be lynched and it would be useless to make a case against someone else as the case would not lead to a lynch (for example, I made my case on you 5 hours into D1 and after a couple of hours it did not go anywhere else). So again, not posting about other players does not mean I am attacking you still. Stop being so emotional.
Just because we all want to lynch OO doesn't mean we will never lynch anybody again! Why are you giving up?
I'm making a case on Mocsta. Obviously I'm not going to try to lynch him today, but that's not going to stop me from starting to make a case.
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On February 15 2013 14:16 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 14:11 warbaby wrote:On February 15 2013 14:10 cDgCorazon wrote:These are the posts that I've made that include your name since I said I was done attacking you until you decided that I was attacking you still. + Show Spoiler +On February 15 2013 07:29 cDgCorazon wrote:
Also, I'd like to add that you thinking WB is town and that I am scum for tunneling someone you think is town is ridiculously WIFOM based. I did the same thing (except in the opposite direction) and I was called out for it by Sn0. I'm doing the same to you now. It's possible for two townies to be tunneling each other (see Acid and WB in the last NMM). On February 15 2013 07:50 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 07:40 TestSubject893 wrote:
Cora, like I already said, the wording of your posts and timing of your actions at the end of D1 and N1 just strike me as especially scummy. When we look at your actions alone, it amounts to nearly ideal mafia play if you can get away with it and the environment you posted your will in and the way it was worded just really jumped out at me as "Hey look at me, just another townie". I don't see that as WIFOM at all. Someone going out of their way to get town cred is scummy, there is no speculation or leveling here.
I'm not sure there's much you can say that will change my mind right now either. I understand you have given reasoning for your actions, but it all just lined up too well for me to not be suspicious still. We've got plenty of time before potentially lynching you, so for now you're just sitting at the top of my list. Convince me someone else is scummier if you want out of that spot.
As for me thinking WB is probably town being WIFOM, I don't really see that either. He strikes me as someone who isn't putting a lot of thought into his strategy. That's really all that read comes down to.
So that brings me to a question for you. What did you think was WIFOM based about my argument to begin with? Well if there's literally nothing I can do to change your mind, that's called confirmation bias.You've said that my actions D1 and N1 have been scummy. I'm guessing you don't agree with my reasoning to vote Glurio. Let's say I am scum. I've been tunneling WB (I'll admit it) almost all of D1. Why would I switch to Glurio so late and in such an obviously bad place if I were scum? Why would I go and cement the lynch of a townie when I could just sit on WB (assuming he is town/that I am scum) and everyone would be ok with that. I'm saying your arguments are WIFOM is because you are saying WB is town, so I must be scum for going after him. Either that or you think I am scum, so WB is automatically town to you. Either way is just so much WIFOM, and failing to take into account that town does not know who the other towns are. Town wanting to vote out other towns is a possibility in this game, don't forget that. I called for the town to lynch an active voice, and no one responded to my call. As such, I was forced to choose between 2/3 sub-optimal lynches. I never said I was happy with the lynch. The problem I have with your argument (once again) is that you're only focusing on me and my vote when 2 other people contributed to lynch Glurio, and 5-6 votes were wasted. Please answer those questions as well, because I'm starting to get the feeling you are tunneling me and getting confirmation bias, which is bad. On February 15 2013 07:50 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 07:40 TestSubject893 wrote:
Cora, like I already said, the wording of your posts and timing of your actions at the end of D1 and N1 just strike me as especially scummy. When we look at your actions alone, it amounts to nearly ideal mafia play if you can get away with it and the environment you posted your will in and the way it was worded just really jumped out at me as "Hey look at me, just another townie". I don't see that as WIFOM at all. Someone going out of their way to get town cred is scummy, there is no speculation or leveling here.
I'm not sure there's much you can say that will change my mind right now either. I understand you have given reasoning for your actions, but it all just lined up too well for me to not be suspicious still. We've got plenty of time before potentially lynching you, so for now you're just sitting at the top of my list. Convince me someone else is scummier if you want out of that spot.
As for me thinking WB is probably town being WIFOM, I don't really see that either. He strikes me as someone who isn't putting a lot of thought into his strategy. That's really all that read comes down to.
So that brings me to a question for you. What did you think was WIFOM based about my argument to begin with? Well if there's literally nothing I can do to change your mind, that's called confirmation bias.You've said that my actions D1 and N1 have been scummy. I'm guessing you don't agree with my reasoning to vote Glurio. Let's say I am scum. I've been tunneling WB (I'll admit it) almost all of D1. Why would I switch to Glurio so late and in such an obviously bad place if I were scum? Why would I go and cement the lynch of a townie when I could just sit on WB (assuming he is town/that I am scum) and everyone would be ok with that. I'm saying your arguments are WIFOM is because you are saying WB is town, so I must be scum for going after him. Either that or you think I am scum, so WB is automatically town to you. Either way is just so much WIFOM, and failing to take into account that town does not know who the other towns are. Town wanting to vote out other towns is a possibility in this game, don't forget that. I called for the town to lynch an active voice, and no one responded to my call. As such, I was forced to choose between 2/3 sub-optimal lynches. I never said I was happy with the lynch. The problem I have with your argument (once again) is that you're only focusing on me and my vote when 2 other people contributed to lynch Glurio, and 5-6 votes were wasted. Please answer those questions as well, because I'm starting to get the feeling you are tunneling me and getting confirmation bias, which is bad. Please tell me where I attack you at all in these posts. Not posting about other players (because by the time I got back OO had been ousted as SK) does not mean I am attacking you still. I'm not saying you're not attacking me (although you just started again), I'm saying you not doing anythig except talk about me. You need to hunt more than 1 scum. I'm not saying you're not attacking me Double negatives...
Yes, sorry, i meant to say "i'm not saying you're attacking me"
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On February 15 2013 14:23 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 11:22 cDgCorazon wrote:On February 15 2013 10:15 Mocsta wrote:
corazon are you really going to keep us in suspense for who you're voting?
The vote is essentially majority now; are we able to shorten the cycle to say: 30hrs (or now); Pretty Puh-lease ? I'm not sure. Do you want me to delay my case until N2 or do you want me to give me thoughts now? I feel like cases lose traction after a day if the person does not get lynched... Warbaby. I want an honest opinion. This is about the third time I've asked you this: Do you read any of my posts that don't have your name in it?
Yes, of course. How can you accuse me of being emotional when you ask me a question like this?
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When I look at your filter since the start of N1, the large majority of it is explaining your vote on glurio, and talking about me. I'm sorry, but that's just how it looks to me. Even in posts where you mention other people, you mention me as well.
Do you need me to link every post you've made since D1 end, and do a statistical analysis of how many mention something other than me and your D1 vote? It won't look good...
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On February 15 2013 14:28 warbaby wrote:
When I look at your filter since the start of N1, the large majority of it is explaining your vote on glurio, and talking about me. I'm sorry, but that's just how it looks to me. Even in posts where you mention other people, you mention me as well.
Do you need me to link every post you've made since D1 end, and do a statistical analysis of how many mention something other than me and your D1 vote? It won't look good...
EBWOP: this was addressed at Corazon.
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On February 15 2013 14:32 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 14:28 warbaby wrote:
When I look at your filter since the start of N1, the large majority of it is explaining your vote on glurio, and talking about me. I'm sorry, but that's just how it looks to me. Even in posts where you mention other people, you mention me as well.
Do you need me to link every post you've made since D1 end, and do a statistical analysis of how many mention something other than me and your D1 vote? It won't look good... So. because you're my scum read, I can't pressure you. Is that how this goes? LOL At least now you admitting its OMGUS, thats the first step in Mafia Anonymous.
You can pressure me all you want. Based on your will, you plan to pressure a dead town, a living (probably) confirmed blue, mandalor, and myself.
Good luck catching scum with those tactics. Maybe TestSubject will flip Mafia Tracker if you pressure him enough.
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On February 15 2013 14:38 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 14:37 warbaby wrote:On February 15 2013 14:32 Mocsta wrote:On February 15 2013 14:28 warbaby wrote:
When I look at your filter since the start of N1, the large majority of it is explaining your vote on glurio, and talking about me. I'm sorry, but that's just how it looks to me. Even in posts where you mention other people, you mention me as well.
Do you need me to link every post you've made since D1 end, and do a statistical analysis of how many mention something other than me and your D1 vote? It won't look good... So. because you're my scum read, I can't pressure you. Is that how this goes? LOL At least now you admitting its OMGUS, thats the first step in Mafia Anonymous. You can pressure me all you want. Based on your will, you plan to pressure a dead town, a living (probably) confirmed blue, mandalor, and myself. Good luck catching scum with those tactics. Maybe TestSubject will flip Mafia Tracker if you pressure him enough. Of course, Sylencia is the one and only scum...right?
No. You and mocsta are my top scum reads right now, if you haven't noticed.
The last scum could be sylencia, zarepath, mandalor, or sn0_man (ordered by liklihood). Obviously I don't think TestSubject and OO are scum (well, OO could be scum, and we'll find out soon enough).
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On February 15 2013 14:44 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 14:41 warbaby wrote:On February 15 2013 14:38 cDgCorazon wrote:On February 15 2013 14:37 warbaby wrote:On February 15 2013 14:32 Mocsta wrote:On February 15 2013 14:28 warbaby wrote:
When I look at your filter since the start of N1, the large majority of it is explaining your vote on glurio, and talking about me. I'm sorry, but that's just how it looks to me. Even in posts where you mention other people, you mention me as well.
Do you need me to link every post you've made since D1 end, and do a statistical analysis of how many mention something other than me and your D1 vote? It won't look good... So. because you're my scum read, I can't pressure you. Is that how this goes? LOL At least now you admitting its OMGUS, thats the first step in Mafia Anonymous. You can pressure me all you want. Based on your will, you plan to pressure a dead town, a living (probably) confirmed blue, mandalor, and myself. Good luck catching scum with those tactics. Maybe TestSubject will flip Mafia Tracker if you pressure him enough. Of course, Sylencia is the one and only scum...right? No. You and mocsta are my top scum reads right now, if you haven't noticed. The last scum could be sylencia, zarepath, mandalor, or sn0_man (ordered by liklihood). Obviously I don't think TestSubject and OO are scum (well, OO could be scum, and we'll find out soon enough). If you think I'm scum I would love to see an original case that brings some new points to the table..."Corazon voted for a townie and calls me out for saying stupid shit won't stop tunneling me."
Your association with Mocsta.
Basically, since Mocsta refuses to analyze you, still, it makes you both look scummy. Mocsta analyzed other people in his will but skipped you. I believe TestSubject asked Mocsta to comment on you, while analyzing Mocsta's will. I have asked Mocsta to comment on you. Why does he refuse?
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On February 15 2013 14:46 warbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 14:44 cDgCorazon wrote:On February 15 2013 14:41 warbaby wrote:On February 15 2013 14:38 cDgCorazon wrote:On February 15 2013 14:37 warbaby wrote:On February 15 2013 14:32 Mocsta wrote:On February 15 2013 14:28 warbaby wrote:
When I look at your filter since the start of N1, the large majority of it is explaining your vote on glurio, and talking about me. I'm sorry, but that's just how it looks to me. Even in posts where you mention other people, you mention me as well.
Do you need me to link every post you've made since D1 end, and do a statistical analysis of how many mention something other than me and your D1 vote? It won't look good... So. because you're my scum read, I can't pressure you. Is that how this goes? LOL At least now you admitting its OMGUS, thats the first step in Mafia Anonymous. You can pressure me all you want. Based on your will, you plan to pressure a dead town, a living (probably) confirmed blue, mandalor, and myself. Good luck catching scum with those tactics. Maybe TestSubject will flip Mafia Tracker if you pressure him enough. Of course, Sylencia is the one and only scum...right? No. You and mocsta are my top scum reads right now, if you haven't noticed. The last scum could be sylencia, zarepath, mandalor, or sn0_man (ordered by liklihood). Obviously I don't think TestSubject and OO are scum (well, OO could be scum, and we'll find out soon enough). If you think I'm scum I would love to see an original case that brings some new points to the table..."Corazon voted for a townie and calls me out for saying stupid shit won't stop tunneling me." Your association with Mocsta. Basically, since Mocsta refuses to analyze you, still, it makes you both look scummy. Mocsta analyzed other people in his will but skipped you. I believe TestSubject asked Mocsta to comment on you, while analyzing Mocsta's will. I have asked Mocsta to comment on you. Why does he refuse?
And obviously the root of the association is that you've both been most vocal in tunelling me. And you both were on the glurio wagon.
It's not a 100% surefire scum case, but it really doesn't look good IMO. Zarepath and TestSubject seem to agree...
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On February 15 2013 14:57 ObviousOne wrote:
Warbaby is the easiest case to make in this game. Well, outside of the Obvious. With me WB and Zare heading towards death theres just gonna be ten pages of Mocsta and Cora agreeing with each other LOL. Jenga
Lol. I almost feel bad we have to kill you.
Heading to bed now. Obviously I'm not going to respond to Mocsta right now, it would be fruitless since I've riled him up trying to make a case on him and corazon.
Mocsta, I'm not even trying to pressure you. Don't take it personally, I just think you're scum (and at this point I've explained why in a lot of detail, so if anybody else wants to know why, check my filter).
I don't want to antagonize you. I don't want you to antagonize me. Nothing good will come of that. Like I've said before, you're free to make cases on me, and you can try to pressure me all you want. I'm also free to make cases on you.
Good night 
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On February 15 2013 15:19 cDgCorazon wrote:
The fact that it took him 20 minutes to respond and then decides to ignore me in his last post suggests to me that he looked through our filters and realized that I was right...typical WB...
I believe your point was that in the association between you and Mocsta, Mocsta looks scummier. I agree, but I didn't realize I had to state so explicitly.
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On February 15 2013 15:28 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 15:19 cDgCorazon wrote:
The fact that it took him 20 minutes to respond and then decides to ignore me in his last post suggests to me that he looked through our filters and realized that I was right...typical WB... Its actually funnier that I hit him with a very valid point (double standards on last will reads) and now he runs off to "bed"... as i said before, at least he admitted today he was OMGUS
Sorry, my case is not OMGUS, it is based on meta, voting patterns, and associations. I'm also following up with points TestSubject made, which I agree with.
It's not a great case, like I already pointed out. You don't need to defend yourself from me, you need to go hunt scum.
I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you, Mocsta.
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T_T I can't sleep. Thanks guys for addressing some of the points I brought up without attacking me for a bit (I mean that sincerely).
Mocsta, in response to + Show Spoiler [this] +On February 15 2013 16:19 Mocsta wrote:(I think he also referenced us both hunting him)
Unless I'm reading the time wrong, sevryn did not get back from work and post things in the thread, like he indicated he would here. I really hope he still plans to make a re-appearance before D2 is out.
According to this post Mandlor should be back in a few hours? He asked for direct questions, but the best I can come up with is: Mandalor, who do you think is scum? He indicates here that he's not sold on me being scum; if he hasn't changed his mind, maybe he can help contribute to a scumhunt that includes players other than myself (again, feel free to hunt me, but let's hunt the other scum too). This post (and others) from Mandalor show a lot more effort than we've seen from sevryn or sylencia.
I've pretty much given up on sylencia (not OMGUS, he's just still showing extremely minimal effort). To be honest sylencia almost seems scummier than anybody else in his game. Is he putting any effort into making cases or pressuring or doing anything at all, really? His claim that he was roleblocked might be redeeming, but it might also just be a lie. His filter is so barren. If he's town, he needs to help town more.
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EBWOP: I don't mean to say by "the other scum" that i'm scum (claiming scum is against the rules, as it were). I meant, as I've said before, that it would help town to hunt other people as well. And maybe Mandalor can help in that regard.
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It wasn't a scumslip, I'm just too tired to express myself clearly, and I'm too stupid to stop posting in the thread. I've had problems with this before.
Town has a problem in this game. So far we've made two coordinated efforts: 1) Lynch the SK, 2) Lynch me. I'd hardly call the 3 votes on glurio a coordinated effort (at least not by town).
So if we discuss nothing for the rest of D2, as Mocsta essentially suggests here by requesting an instant majority lynch on OO, and then we decide to lynch me D3, who are we (well, not me) going to lynch after that?
If I do get lynched and flip town D3, town will have an ever bigger problem, since they've mislynched again. If I flip scum D3, is town going to gain any association-type information? Due to the constant hate train, I've basically been radioactive this whole game, so it's not like you'll see some blatant cooperative effort in my voting patterns and whatnot.
Since I'm still being attacked some, I'll offer this defense: if I'm scum, wouldn't I have just shut up and let town lynch the SK? I'm not saying we shouldn't lynch the SK, I'm saying I refuse to give up the rest of D2 like Mocsta suggests. It's time town can spend hunting scum.
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On February 15 2013 17:52 Mocsta wrote:
On phone will make 3 short points
1. Get used to losing sleep over mafia. Some even dream of mafia haha. Welcome to the club.
2. If u r tired as u indicate. I would contest your scum slip was genuine and is easily explained by a lapse in concentration. I think the counter of scum dont break the rules is weak at best and desparate at worst.
3. U r clutching at straws. Fact no one in general is talking. I find it convenient u choose to ignore my posts asking for activity and discussion
Nice try warbaby and enjoy the scum dreams
If my dreams are scummy, it's only cause you'll be in them~
On February 15 2013 10:15 Mocsta wrote:
corazon are you really going to keep us in suspense for who you're voting?
The vote is essentially majority now; are we able to shorten the cycle to say: 30hrs (or now); Pretty Puh-lease ?
Why would a town want to throw away part of the day cycle? Day belongs to town, it's when they hunt and lynch scum.
"Oh but we're gonna lynch the SK/scum ObviousOne anyway" is a lame excuse. If we throw away the rest of D2 like Mocsta suggested, we're giving up any chance to actually hunt scum. Why would a town ever want less time to hunt scum?
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On February 15 2013 18:45 Mocsta wrote:
Its actually a common occurrence to ask for shorter cycles when a lynch is universally agreed.
If town was actively conversing than yes. Keep the cycle full.
But don't try and bullshit me as if lots of flowing conversation occurred.
P.s. thanks for ignoring my succinct reasoning for your scum slip.
Do u always cherry pick what you respond to?
It wasn't a scum slip, so I don't need to respond to your reasoning.
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On February 15 2013 18:45 Mocsta wrote:
Its actually a common occurrence to ask for shorter cycles when a lynch is universally agreed.
Can you provide an example? I'd assume you can easily find an example if it's a common occurrence.
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