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zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 15 2013 04:29 GMT
#1192
Honestly, if I were to do it over, I would wait until there was a warbaby wagon, and then done it. I thought a warbaby wagon was imminent and wanted to give a wagon for scum to hop onto if they didn't want warbaby lynched. But doing it so early in Day 1 proved problematic.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 15 2013 04:37 GMT
#1194
I'd like to see you take that logic a step further and actually make a case, WB.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 15 2013 04:39 GMT
#1196
That sounded a little aggressive, sorry. But basically I don't want to go study all 42 of his corazon mentions. You imply that "something is up" because he's mentioned one person a lot, but I don't fully see the implication, at least not enough for me to understand things better. I think it might be a good point you bring up, but I pretty much can only tell if you make a real case.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 15 2013 14:29 GMT
#1275
HOLY CRAP LET'S STOP MAKING ASSOCIATION CASES ALREADY
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 15 2013 14:36 GMT
#1276
Okay, I totally just skimmed the last four pages and I don't feel like I'm missing anything. This is the kind of thing that made us almost lose the last Newbie Mafia -- three or four active townies cluttering the thread, sparring each other over nothing while multiple inactive players post literally nothing.

Somebody said that Mocsta/Cora/WB rushing to defend or attack Mocsta/Cora/WB was only meant to divert attention from Mocsta/Cora/WB... this is getting out of hand. None of you have attention diverted away from yourselves. By participating in this BS, attention is focused on YOU, and as town (and I assume at least one of you involved here is town), that is bad.

We are looking at MYLO tomorrow, guys. TOMORROW. And we know almost nothing about the reads or opinions of MULTIPLE players:

Sylencia
Mandalor
Sevryn

Why are we so eager to let them do literally nothing today?
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 15 2013 14:38 GMT
#1277
On February 15 2013 23:28 Mocsta wrote:
However: What is concerning to me TestUser; is that you do not seem to notice (or case) warbaby is actually the one who blatantly ignores any criticisms/comments directed his way.

I simply do not understand how when two people react, and exhibit the same behaviour; one is reasonable, the other becomes 'something else'?


Quit ignoring empirical data. Why are you wasting any reasoning at all on TestUser? He claimed Tracker with no counterclaim and we'll know if he's a liar tonight.

You're turning this into a schoolyard bicker. LOOK FOR SCUM, don't engage in juvenile wordplay games.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 15 2013 14:47 GMT
#1278
Okay, looked at WB's supposed scum slip -- it comes from within a hypothetical scenario, so I don't see it as necessarily being a scum slip.

If WB is scum, we should be able to tell from reasons other than him literally telling us he is scum.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 15 2013 15:08 GMT
#1281
Where is your cake, though? Are you pushing for a WB lynch or just saying that you think he's scum?
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 15 2013 16:12 GMT
#1288
On February 16 2013 00:56 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 00:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
What I want to know is why does Sevryn get such an utter free ride from so many people (especially mocsta/Cora)? Sure people mention his name when they call our low contribution members, but when its down to who might be scum, his name never even pops up...

Sev is null for me.

I do want to see more from him; but I prioritize mandalor/sylencia over him. - as stated before.

Next cycle we are down to what 9 players? pressuring 3 people simultaneously is 33% of the playing list.

I would contemplate an RNG lynch on them Considering they aren't giving us anything to work with.


We are potentially in MYLO tomorrow, and you want to RNG?
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 15 2013 22:07 GMT
#1300
I'm in favor of cases now versus cases later. Gives people time to digest and react appropriately, instead of insanely.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 16 2013 13:25 GMT
#1368
I think everyone should come into D3 (ideally the very end of N2) with a full list of their reads, and who they suspect the most after doing some filter work.

I'll be spending what time I have today doing another filter dive and come out by the end of the night with my reads.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 17 2013 00:31 GMT
#1383
I didn't have any time today, as I thought I would.

I think we need to find our first scum within Syl, Mandalor, and Sevryn. Earlier in the game I found Sevryn more pro-town than the other two, but I haven't consciously re-checked that. All three filters need rigorous analysis, and luckily it looks like that seems to be the town consensus right now.

I think we may need a full blue claim tomorrow.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 18 2013 12:13 GMT
#1478
I like how Sylencia's big "I'm contributing!" post is all theory and setup speculation.

Still filter diving, but I'm inclined to go for Mandalor right now. Although he did say he was going to be busy this whole time.

Not that I'm one to talk... As Cora pointed out, Sundays are my busiest days. Sorry for not mentioning that myself.

I should be back for the day. Catching up, filter reading, etc.

I like the discussion so far.

"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 18 2013 21:11 GMT
#1523
On February 19 2013 00:46 Sylencia wrote:
The three voting for me are the three scum players anyways, which essentially means whatever I say to you doesn't matter.


This feels so scummy to me, in addition to his No-Lynch. He is terrified of targeting or going after anyone in particular, and has spent most of his energy defending himself.

##Vote: Sylencia

P.S. - To all who have raised their concerns about my activity the last few days -- sorry, I've been spending time with family today since I have the day off. I know this isn't ideal and that my final contribution looks really haphazard, but that's because I just haven't put in the time to do a more thorough read. Sorry, all.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 19 2013 00:09 GMT
#1534
On February 19 2013 07:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
If the game is still going and I'm alive, I'll be back in full tomorrow.


On February 19 2013 07:14 Sn0_Man wrote:
If we lose on the spot I kinda feel like the setup is dumb XD.


Not to start throwing crap around, but Sn0 is really prepping for an end-of-game mislynch.

"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 19 2013 00:10 GMT
#1535
EBWOP: I suppose that was unnecessarily provocative without an actual case backing it up. Let's see the flip and go from there.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 19 2013 01:52 GMT
#1551
Okay, a few thoughts.

Trying to pull scum out of the three players with the fewest posts has apparently been difficult for us.

What happened to WB scum? It looked so bad for him halfway through D1. I'm going to revisit that tomorrow.

When Mocsta was going off on OO, he was quite certain that OO was SK. He was also quick to suggest Syl's fake role claiming. And ifyou look at the first half of D1, he accused/suggested that an incredibly large number of different people were scummy.

Mandalor has an excuse for inactivity; Sevryn not as much.

Sevryn, if we had a JK he surely would have protected our Tracker last night.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 19 2013 02:30 GMT
#1557
Welp, I was saving this because there were better targets at the time, but here's your Day 1:

Mocsta thinks that geript is scum:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 11 2013 09:43 Mocsta wrote:
/confirm

geript.. if you vote for warbaby (my doppleganger)

your voting for ME

##Vote: Geript
This shit for realz now huh


On February 11 2013 09:52 Mocsta wrote:
Why dont you give others a chance to post their own thoughts instead of trying to forcefully influence them before they have spoken.

Are you trying for a dictatorship here or something?


Mocsta thinks that warbaby is scum:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 11 2013 09:51 Mocsta wrote:
Thats fuckn scummy as clone.

You want to post the same thing as another game when you were TOWN.

I did the same thing when I was scum you know.. you really are copying me arent you.

##Unvote
##Vote:Warbaby


you know geript, you really were onto something here


On February 11 2013 13:30 Mocsta wrote:
warbaby,

if I may come out of hibernation.

Thanks for the updated summary list.

So far, you are the guy I dont like the most and I am going to outline the reasons below.

#1 - In your entry you specified its direct from your last town game (i.e. soft claim for town)
If you want to re-use ice-breakers, do it... why specify its from your town game

#2 - Summary lists are an easy way to contribute, without contributing
All of us can easily do a filter click, off page1 + its pretty obvious we going through a USA/Europe vs Oceania shift

#3 - You even make comments alluding you to your "good ideas = town play" concept from your last game
Why are you trying SO SO hard to associate your self with being town?

The above is not worthy of a vote (yet), but I would appreciate your feedback to the above.


On February 11 2013 20:57 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 20:45 warbaby wrote:
How can I forget about my mislynch in 36 when within ten minutes of this game starting two people vote me for the same bullshit reasons I was miskynched for in 36?

You guys are repeating your mistakes from 36, plain and simple. Maybe you're bad at mafia, and you're jealous that I actually tried to make contributions that could help town, instead of waving my dick around.

I honestly don't give a shit anymore. Go ahead and mislynch me, so I can make fun of you all (again) in the obs qt. Maybe I'll even be named town MVP again (it's not hard with competition like this).

I waited 8 hours for THAT...

##vote: warbaby

I never seen a town player defend themselves so meekly early game.it shows complete lack of care. Logicial deduction. U must be scum. good find corazon. Perhaps i wad wrong with RNG


On February 11 2013 21:04 Mocsta wrote:
Wow warbaby.

Way to go just calling everyone dumb.

And u think u were a proponent of a pro-town friendly atmosphere.

Ur last 3 posts are anything but that.

Just cos u scum doesnt mean u have to be out of line like this.. Seriously. Esp when u called out corazon for this behaviour earlier.


Mocsta thinks that corazon is scum:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 11 2013 10:02 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 10:02 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 11 2013 09:58 geript wrote:
@Cora can we please keep the tone constructive. Turning people directly towards an emotional response is worthless right now.


Please don't make that an issue unless it's a real problem.

Actually considering your last game, I think he is right to point this out.

It was very off-putting to say the least. Your on watch.


On February 11 2013 10:09 Mocsta wrote:
Are you scared im gonna find all the scum Corazon, including you?


Mocsta thinks that sn0_man is scum:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 11 2013 10:21 Mocsta wrote:
Is this how you plan to build cases Sn0_Man, if so, why is there any value for town keeping you here?

Im suggesting an open forum of communication; which appears at first read, 180 degrees from your suggestion.

I dont see any problems with my English above. I am not sure if English is your first language, so I will not treat this as an attempt by scum to mock me publicly.



Mocsta thinks that WaveofShadow is scum:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 11 2013 13:41 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 13:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also regarding the soft claim (I feel I should address it) wouldn't I say the same thing if I were scum?

Sorry, but, I cant even begin to fathom what you are implying with this? Please clarify, as it reads very WIFOM to me.



Mocsta thinks that Mandalor is scum:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 11 2013 20:52 Mocsta wrote:
Mandalor.

I know u want revenge for me.
But spending time trying to kick a guy when he is on the floor. I.e. prove something is dead when it is indeed dead....
reads to me as trying to contribute without contributing.

Since u talking about lurkers. Can i assume ur in luv with geript?


Mocsta thinks that glurio is scum:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 11 2013 23:46 Mocsta wrote:
Glurio,

(1)
why are you asking others to look into my filter?

"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 19 2013 02:37 GMT
#1559
In summary, you soft-read plenty of people as being scummy. You stuck with Warbaby, but he was super easy.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 19 2013 02:39 GMT
#1560
On February 19 2013 11:35 cDgCorazon wrote:
Zare most of these are just discussion questions. The only one where I'd say he thinks the person is scum is the one about WB.

You're just reaching with this argument.


Not officially, but you don't say things like "Why not, you worried I'll find out you're scum?" to promote a good town environment day 1.

This isn't a case; this is backing up my claim that Mocsta suggests is a false one.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
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