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Be specific, I want to know your thoughts. | ||
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Tell me: Don't you think it's a good idea to post a case against someone before his death? I think it would be really good scum play. You lose your only scum read, look like you contributed and keep all other options open for you to jump on the next day. | ||
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Yeah, you said yamato. I asked: Who else if no one wants to lynch him? | ||
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I got to pull the stuff out of your nose by spamming questions. You're completely unwilling to share your thoughts, you don't care about what's going to happen tomorrow. You don't try to push your own preferences. | ||
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You on the other hand have suspicious targets for lynch and are giving a guy a town-read for a single post with lots of null reads and a scumread that died shortly thereafter. Sharrant wanted to lynch yamato for dicking around and gave EZ an instant town read for not doing that. That doesn't make any fucking sense. Sharrant didn't want to vote for thrawn after calling him suspicious for lurking in the early game, reason he gave: It's a lurker lynch. Sharrant joined the jay wagon late and in a super scummy way, hastily throwing in a few reasons and didn't do shit D2. Sharrant was the guy being attacked by VE shortly before his death. It's one less player against him for the next day. You ignoring all these points and basing your townread on a single post cause it's huge just confirms that you are the likely scumbuddy. | ||
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Yet another Normal mini mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=388487 | ||
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Since that alleged scumslip I can't remember pushing you much, you didn't "have to deal with me constantly" at all. Lay out your detailed thoughts, townreads and scumreads for tomorrow please. With 2 blue claims you have no reason to be afraid of talking about your townreads. | ||
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On February 01 2013 04:06 Sharrant wrote: Vivax, I'm sorry, I've tried ignoring everything you've taken out of context or twisted because apparently that's what you do. You don't read the thread, you just make shit up as you go along. That's it. You're wrong about why I gave EZ a town read. I gave EZ a town read because it's a hydra made of two people that I expect two spew anger constantly, AND I SAW NONE OF THAT. That was honestly the scummiest thing about him aside from the connection in Prom's post that I pointed out. And then there's finally some anger. Boom, that was the last piece of the puzzle for me to have him as a town read unless Prom flips and flips red at some point. This is a bad explanation. I doubt this was your original intention since you are telling me you'd read them as scum if they didn't spew anger constantly. You're asking them to act anti-town? On February 01 2013 04:06 Sharrant wrote: You're damn right I considered Thrawn a lurker lynch. He only had two posts of any substance. As scum he should have had a page of filter in day one, usually a little more than that. I rather would have lynched Prom who I had a scum read on at the time. He had gone so far past the point of lurking I was pretty sure he'd just replace out. He was afk day one, not lurking, there's a difference. Sharrant: January 27 2013 05:06 Thrawn2112 This will be much shorter. His first post is entirely null to me, a fairly obvious joke post but I don't have much faith in my ability to tell whether the joke is forced or not. What's concerning to me is his lack of contribution afterwards, I'm used to Thrawn being a name I see pop up quite frequently in whichever game he is in, and he's thus far barely been in this one. I don't think this matches up with any of his previous playing styles however, so this is a very weak scum read. On January 27 2013 14:55 Sharrant wrote: You were quite clear, but I wanted to give you a chance to clarify. I agree that Thrawn lurks when he is scum, but I have never seen him lurk this hard. Comparing his filters in other games they suffer significantly when he's scum compared to town, but I find it a little absurd to compare this lurking to his lurking in other games. I would be more agreeable if you had said this was a lurker lynch, but lurking this hard is headed into modkill/replacement territory, and at least from my perspective this seems non-alignment indicitave because of the severity of the lurking. I'll consider this more as we get closer to the deadline, but unless he pipes up soon, he's going to stay as a null read. Everything further has to be looked at by others. I'm tired of spoonfeeding the town, but what we see here is that you subtly criticized iamp for going for a lurker lynch, while constantly repeating: "Thrawn is scummy for lurking, but he lurks so much he can't be scum". On January 28 2013 07:34 Sharrant wrote: Well, for starters, Thrawn is not a scum read. I'm not sure how you got that, he's pretty much entirely null to me. Too much absence to get even a minor read on. EmileZola is like a vortex for my sanity. Another big lurker (though slightly more active) and he's mainly just sort of trolled along. I think it's fairly safe to treat him like he's not MrZentor, which makes me wonder why the wagon that was beginning to form on him fizzled out and hasn't come back after the revelation. He agrees with one of my reads though, I'm not sure to take that as a mark against my read, or a mark for him being townie, I need to hear more from him. Djodref is still null for me, and JieXian is pretty much my wildcard scum read. If it doesn't end up being Prom/VE/EmileZola I would expect JieXian to be in the team. In the end you say he isn't scum at all. On February 01 2013 04:06 Sharrant wrote: I wanted to lynch Yamato for being afk the entire day, up until he comes in and hard defends a guy who has done nothing but sheep and go "this guys scum cuz scum". What the fuck is that? If Thrawn had pulled some bullshit like that, I absolutely would have been on his lynch. On February 01 2013 02:08 Vivax wrote: You know, I don't see scum successfully fakeclaiming miller and then starting to troll the shit out of town getting to the edge of getting lynched for it. Comment on this then, I assume you saw this post while going through my filter. On February 01 2013 04:06 Sharrant wrote: Yeah, I had a rough day 2 because I was 100% sure about VE being scum. And he flipped town, along with so many people doing things that looked scummy it was hard for me to actually get a real read except for a bunch of town reads. That left me with a pool of players that I could make pretty similar cases on. Yeah, VE attacked me when I went after him, but you know what? Some of the things he has attacked me for I know I'm right on. Everyone that has flipped that wasn'ton Thrawn's wagon has flipped town, and I'm town. You had a "rough" day2? You had jay and JX as scumreads, I was hardtunneling JX while you did exactly nothing to get a better read on these two players. You kept dropping statements about them, never seemed truly interested in knowing what they had to say to certain matters. On February 01 2013 04:06 Sharrant wrote: Stop twisting my words, stop trying to make a terrible case on me, and start trying to actually lynch scum. I had to deal with this before I reread the rest of the thread. I saw this post and it just pushed my buttons. I'll be around the computer until day post, but probably with a few gaps in there. Emotional, dramatic fluff that only disrupts discussion and atmosphere. This is the stuff you gave EZ a townread for right? | ||
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Remember the notes I gave to Palmar in LVIII? | ||
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Yamato: I don't see him piss off town like that as scum when he could just play the pro-town guy with a claim in the bag. As for Sharrant, his attitude towards thrawn stinks, VE got murdered after attacking him, and his obvious disinterest in finding out who's scum between JX and jay, and all the other stuff I wrote in my last posts against him. The NK argument isn't just WIFOM, scum is used to people not speculating about that cause they are used to people dismissing it cause of the wifom-argument, so they simply pick the most straight forward choice. Have yet to play in a scum team that says: "We kill this guy cause then they suspect this guy...", mostly they say "We kill this guy cause he has good reads and wants to kill us". | ||
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Why the hell would scum beg the vigi to not shoot two townies???? The green check holds so far. | ||
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But I doubt he's using the same star twice. | ||
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