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On January 25 2013 03:28 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 01:39 yamato77 wrote:
Vivax if you're town you're a moron for what you're doing with this red check.
But, no matter your alignment, town's best play is to lynch Gonzaw here, so let's see some votes. It's also telling that yamato posts this after he just finished to post something against gonzaw when the lynch wasn't going anywhere before the claim. "What are you saying Vivax, I am not setting myself up for a bus, I had gonzaw as target for a long time" "What are you doing Vivax, town was heading to an Oats lynch and you get gonzaw lynched with a claim?" Seriously, yamato is so bad as scum, I would lynch him with a spoon.
If you are town we need to talk after this game, because it is getting ridiculous.
How many posts of mine can you try to quote to make me look bad? I think you're an idiot for what you're doing with this check because you're making association cases and are so confirmation biased you're calling near confirmed townies mafias.
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Austin I want your thoughts on Toad.
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Wbg you've been oddly silent.
What do you think about the case I posted on debears?
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If I claim something can I get NK'd?
I'm confident in an Annul lynch for tomorrow, regardless of Gonzaw's flip. Until the deadline, I will not be providing any association reads as he may yet flip town. Who the fuck knows.
The way Annul has played this game is highly suspect. He seems to want to create a thread atmosphere that is negative, and he has twice now come in at opportune times to egg on a player who was shitting up the thread with their play, first me and now Vivax. He may yet be town, but this sort of behavior is mafia motivated in nature. I don't like that his response to the threat of lynch was to scream at everyone and then go silent like a fucking child, but anti-town isn't necessarily mafia, so it's not solid proof.
One last thing:
Toad, what's your thoughts on how Bugs has played today?
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BKE it's best to just ignore what Vivax is saying, because despite the fact that he's obviously wrong and full of shit, he's still most likely town.
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Well, guys, I'll be at work until well after the deadline.
I hope to come back to a red flip. Don't do anything stupid like switch off Gonzaw.
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I can't imagine why anyone is taking Vivax's reads even slightly seriously when even a cursory check of my filter reveals that he is flat out lying on some things and wildly misinterpreting others to fit his biased view of my play this game.
This goes for anyone he is "suspicious" of, by the way, which makes me feel like he's being intentionally stupid. If he's town he's a far worse player than I was led to believe. It's difficult for me to make sense of anything he is doing this game. I wish he could just be offed. :/
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Adam please don't be an idiot.
I need not stupid people in my town.
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On January 25 2013 14:55 DearestSnot wrote:
I'd like to hear from anyone who wants to speak with me.
Talk to me.
Mocsta, interested?
Talk to me about who can be scum in your opinion and why. Perhaps even who can't.
In WBG's advice corner for tonight, remember that at this stage of the game, townreads can be just as useful, if not even more useful, than scumreads. Perhaps it's best to keep those to ourselves for now, though. Happy scumhunting!
debears, though that idea is kind of weak admittedly. I've given my reasoning for this.
Vivax, again farfetched but he's been so wrong on everyone he didn't have a red check on it's mind boggling. There's a lot of things that he's doing that make zero sense to me but unless I feel there's a reason to doubt his claim I am willing to ignore him for now. I should, as FT suggests, not entertain his suspicions.
Chez, maybe, no way to know.
Grush, perhaps, but again there's very little to say either way, though his breadcrumb is a strong indicator to me
Austin maybe, because he did provide some resistance to the gonzaw lynch. Mafia may have figured out that being on the gonzaw wagon that late could be even worse than not being on it at all, and what the heck, why not try to save him if possible?
Annul is really scummy to me, as is BKE. They'll be getting my votes tomorrow. Aside from a few town tells you guys see in Annul I don't see any disagreement with this idea.
Fuba I actually lean town on, but that's a weak read.
Oats, Mocsta, Stutters, Toad, WBG, FT all as green to me, for varying reasons.
Clarity/Adam, I hope is town. We'll see. Sorry for being a dick earlier, I am extremely tired and was frustrated at this game.
Whatcha think about them reads, bro?
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He's playing exactly like the town Stutters from YAN.
If you haven't yet, read his filter in that game. It's like a carbon copy.
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Well people aren't going to sheep me and mafia isn't going to shoot someone they weren't going to before just because I have a town read on them so I did it already.
That is the only group of people I think is worth lynching into at all, unless something drastic happens.
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On January 25 2013 15:36 Mocsta wrote:
[fluff]
After this game I would love to know how u guys make notes etc
i just read the thread, and get a gut feeling.. if i dont like someone, i read the filter and then makes notes as im reading the filter
you guys seem to make notes as you read the thread; and seem to have detailed noted on all players
is that correct?
You want to know things like who each person was suspicious of, whether you thought that was reasonable or justified, and who the person wanted to lynch, didnt want to lynch, when they did what they did, etc.
It doesn't hurt to at least have a document where you keep track of your reads and have some justifications for it.
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On January 25 2013 16:47 AxleGreaser wrote:
@YAMato77
Why did you vote for an Annul lynch at the start of D2?
perhaps more importantly why did you vote for it when you did?
If you read the game you would know why, but it's because he looked red to me N1 and I wanted him dead early D2. That weakened, I found a better read, and now I'm left to consider the possibility of mafia Annul yet again.
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Adam, I am glad you've come out with a mafia read on Austin. I agree, he is fairly sketchy at times and fluffy at others. What concerns me about him is that he seemed perfectly willing to play along with Vivax and not lynch the mafia with a red check on him, which is highly suspicious to me, especially after the flip. I think Austin deserves a fair amount of scrutiny, and I am going to make sure that happens in the coming days.
While you may find Axle suspicious, I find his play this game fairly consistent with that if his town game in the one I played with him. He isn't overly involved in the conversation town is having, he comes in with his own take on something and basically ignores everything else. I don't see much reason to have a mafia read on him at this point in the game.
As for BKE, I want to ask this question to everyone: Who thinks he's not a good lynch tomorrow?
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On January 26 2013 01:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 01:37 yamato77 wrote:
As for BKE, I want to ask this question to everyone: Who thinks he's not a good lynch tomorrow? *raises hand*
I'm going to regret asking this question, but why?
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On January 26 2013 01:39 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 01:37 yamato77 wrote:
Adam, I am glad you've come out with a mafia read on Austin. I agree, he is fairly sketchy at times and fluffy at others. What concerns me about him is that he seemed perfectly willing to play along with Vivax and not lynch the mafia with a red check on him, which is highly suspicious to me, especially after the flip. I think Austin deserves a fair amount of scrutiny, and I am going to make sure that happens in the coming days.
While you may find Axle suspicious, I find his play this game fairly consistent with that if his town game in the one I played with him. He isn't overly involved in the conversation town is having, he comes in with his own take on something and basically ignores everything else. I don't see much reason to have a mafia read on him at this point in the game.
As for BKE, I want to ask this question to everyone: Who thinks he's not a good lynch tomorrow? There are two good reasons that Axle could be mafia. Firstly, his significant drop-off in activity. Secondly, the mayoral candidates he supported on Day 1 were firstly Chezinu, and then gonzaw. This is suspicious by itself.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, I'm not sure if town Axle would be involved in the game enough to vote for a mayor in a manner which is indicative about his alignment.
His activity dropping off is also consistent with his town game, tbh, so I'm not worried about him. It's like you guys' read on Chezinu, there's really not much to say either way.
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On January 26 2013 01:46 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 01:44 yamato77 wrote:On January 26 2013 01:39 FiveTouch wrote:On January 26 2013 01:37 yamato77 wrote:
Adam, I am glad you've come out with a mafia read on Austin. I agree, he is fairly sketchy at times and fluffy at others. What concerns me about him is that he seemed perfectly willing to play along with Vivax and not lynch the mafia with a red check on him, which is highly suspicious to me, especially after the flip. I think Austin deserves a fair amount of scrutiny, and I am going to make sure that happens in the coming days.
While you may find Axle suspicious, I find his play this game fairly consistent with that if his town game in the one I played with him. He isn't overly involved in the conversation town is having, he comes in with his own take on something and basically ignores everything else. I don't see much reason to have a mafia read on him at this point in the game.
As for BKE, I want to ask this question to everyone: Who thinks he's not a good lynch tomorrow? There are two good reasons that Axle could be mafia. Firstly, his significant drop-off in activity. Secondly, the mayoral candidates he supported on Day 1 were firstly Chezinu, and then gonzaw. This is suspicious by itself. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, I'm not sure if town Axle would be involved in the game enough to vote for a mayor in a manner which is indicative about his alignment. His activity dropping off is also consistent with his town game, tbh, so I'm not worried about him. It's like you guys' read on Chezinu, there's really not much to say either way. His activity in the town-game never dropped off in the middle of the game for a sustained period like it has here. And "I'm not sure he's aware to do all these scummy things" isn't a good defence for anybody. The fact is, those were his votes. He voted for the mafia in the running for Sheriff quite late in the day. This is very suspicious.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that, to me, Axle seems to be acting just like his town game. He is less aware of what town is doing and what his vote is doing than the average player. If you guys want to lynch/shoot him, that's fine with me because I don't see any other way to figure out his alignment to any degree of certainty. But if I had to bet on it, I would say he's town, and attempting to pursue a read on him is going to go nowhere because he isn't going to act any differently than he is now.
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On January 26 2013 01:50 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 01:42 yamato77 wrote:On January 26 2013 01:38 Vivax wrote:On January 26 2013 01:37 yamato77 wrote:
As for BKE, I want to ask this question to everyone: Who thinks he's not a good lynch tomorrow? *raises hand* I'm going to regret asking this question, but why? 1. If Toad is town he would jail him tonight, so there's not even a point in discussing this now. We can't be totally sure of the outcome cause there might be a protection somewhere. But if there's a medic protecting and he claims then we will know that the extra KP is missing cause of that and not cause BKE is scum. I doubt scum would sacrifice a KP to push a BKE mislynch for the next day. Toad could also act not according to what he said so far and jail me, Bugs or anyone else for example. That leaves the danger open that he will still push for a BKE lynch tomorrow. 2. Other than that, you can't have a good read on people with low activity like BKE. Pushing for a lynch on him is comfortable, you don't need to tell many reasons. Sadly, I can't check Toad and FT who are pushing for his lynch. @ Bugs
Why are you ok with the mason information being withheld?
Most people oppose lunches because they have a reason to believe someone is town, but you oppose it because of the night action WIFOM happening the night before?
Okay Vivax.
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You're an idiot, Vivax.
If your check comes back anything but green I'm getting you lynched.
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