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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 14:58 GMT
#1627
Toad, answer my other questions or refuse to do so, your call.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 15:00 GMT
#1630
Why do you think gonzaw is scum?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 15:15 GMT
#1634
@ FT

Can you assume that Oats isn't scum for a moment and take a look at Toad? Thanks.

You also posted a somewhat-read about gonzaw, but you aren't interested in hearing opinions about him?Or asking him questions?

Where is gonzaw anyway?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 15:19 GMT
#1637
On January 23 2013 16:12 Toadesstern wrote:
wouldn't mind lynching into either gonzaw or Annul today. Have to reread a bit because they kind of rule out each other...
Anyways doublelynch tomorrow should be voted for.


On January 23 2013 20:45 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 20:31 Vivax wrote:
On January 23 2013 20:14 Vivax wrote:
Who would you lynch first today, annul or gonzaw?
What do you think about this thing I consider to be a scumslip?



Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 20:33 Vivax wrote:
Use something in your argumentation to say that you think gonzaw and annul are scum besides this mayor thing please.

You say: "I think one and only one is scum among the mayor candidates, gonzaw and annul are probably scum cause everyone else I have a town read on."

I don't think it's a slip at all. Not sure who I'd want to lynch first at all. I'm trying to figure out how likely it is that mafia shot like total retards (besides the Sandro hit that ist) on purpose to make us think about someone else who might be mafia within the vets, which is the reason we're talking about gonzaw to begin with.

gonzaw looks / looked a townie so far and I really thought he'd die as a secondary target as you can see when you're reading the logs between Sandro and myself. And Sandro agreed so that's one of the reaons I'm talking about Gonzaw right now.

Annul's posts are awful in general. The ones he did on d1 didn't contribute or were trollish (the combination of both is what's troublesome). Like the wifom-picture post, like his very first (or 2nd?) post "causually" asking why I'm not considering to vote him instead of Sandro. And now he's basicly ragequitting although he's still hanging in here. That's at least something good I guess.
On top of that I just never agreed with a single read he did. Saying I'm mafia d1, I think he said you (Vivax) are mafia d1 as well when EVERYONE agreed that you're one of the most townish looking guys around. Check my first log for timestamps on when I said something about you... like 3 hours into the game it was already certain for me, and for Sandro as well.
He was wasting his vote by putting it on himself and he was against the prplhz lynch.


This town needs help.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 15:30 GMT
#1643
Yeah, your shitty reason to lynch someone you think looks townie based on him not dying during the night is a pretty strong tell.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 15:32 GMT
#1645
But the connection between gonzaw and your Oats read and the people getting interested in gonzaw after the night sealed the deal.

On January 23 2013 03:52 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 03:47 DearestSnot wrote:
I don't understand the scum Oats motivation for pushing you, gonzaw. It seems almost suicidal to me.

In another game I had recently I was inclined to vote someone for calling me scum in a situation where he was under heby pressure. My gut said that he was town based on the unlikelihood of him being willing to call me out so hard when I was the deciding vote. I decided to stubbornly ignore my suspicion and the guy flipped town.

I just don't see what kind of scum would come to the conclusion that one of the mayoral candidates is scum and then proceed to attack the one who is most likely to put forth a strong backlash with a serious and solid response.


this exactly.

On a sidenote for medics: Don't forget about gonzaw. That guy probably needs protection as well. So if you're a medic and don't know what to do, at least consider protecting WBG / Gonzaw / Sandro.
I'm not going to tell you my target.


This was the post where Toad changed his mind about Oats.

But Toad's latest scumreads before this post were:

On January 22 2013 16:53 Toadesstern wrote:
If you're pressing me to formulate a real list with the guys I'd pick if I had to right now I'd say it's:
Annul as #1, oats or JX as #2, debears as #3, BKE as #4.

clarity seems very unlikely to be mafia but it's possible I guess.


1st of all, super easy targets to pick as scum.
Then, you changed your whole fucking read on Oats based on him being the first to make a case on gonzaw.
He wanted gonzaw protected during that night and thought that his former scumread is suddenly town for making a case on someone he wants protected?

No, actually, he and gonzaw are scumbuddies. Toad has seen the winds change towards a gonzaw lynch and has set himself up to bus him, that's why he switched stances on both of Oats and gonzaw so extremely.
He obviously didn't have good reasons except for the bus motive to do so, that's why his answers regarding gonzaw and annul have been extremely bad and even contradict his opinion on gonzaw.

Lynch either of them and thank me after the game, you noobs. Even Axle noticed this shit.

FT is awful with his Oats tunnel. For sure not Palmar.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 15:35 GMT
#1646
##Vote Gonzaw

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 15:44 GMT
#1654
I have good reason to believe Bugs isn't mafia.

It's telling that in none of your arguments you ask me why I think gonzaw is scum if I'm so sure about the connection between you two and you aren't sure about him.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 15:45 GMT
#1655
But you are lucky to play against this town Toad.

For now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 15:52 GMT
#1661
On January 24 2013 00:49 Mocsta wrote:
Toad/Vivax.

I know this is a lot of a non-vet to ask of vets, but can you please put your discussions on hold.

I feel like you two are discussing semantics - i am not saying the discussion is invalid or inappropriate.. just :



Concurrently we have a case mounting on Oats, based on facts in this game and meta from a game I just played with him.

I would really appreciate if you could share your thoughts on what FiveTouch and myself have raised over the past 2 pages.


Where's the analysis of gonzaw and Toad you promised?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 16:04 GMT
#1666
On January 24 2013 00:58 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 00:52 Vivax wrote:
On January 24 2013 00:49 Mocsta wrote:
Toad/Vivax.

I know this is a lot of a non-vet to ask of vets, but can you please put your discussions on hold.

I feel like you two are discussing semantics - i am not saying the discussion is invalid or inappropriate.. just :



Concurrently we have a case mounting on Oats, based on facts in this game and meta from a game I just played with him.

I would really appreciate if you could share your thoughts on what FiveTouch and myself have raised over the past 2 pages.


Where's the analysis of gonzaw and Toad you promised?


The irony of all your posts is that you basically refuse to comment on the player that I want to lynch (dude who killed mafia, just to remind you). This is about it:

Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 22:16 Vivax wrote:
Oats, you have this annoying habit of defending people when they should be talking.

Defend him with your vote and nothing else please, he's already secretive as of now.


Why do you think you have the right to demand answers from others, when unwilling to provide opinions yourself on other cases? Or are you simply that much of an outrageous hypocrite?


I already said Oats is town. I said it when I read he's your bodyguard, I said the same about debears. Nothing has changed about that, go read.
I'm not talking about why I think he's town. That's his own job.

This is also in answer to Mocsta.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 16:22 GMT
#1681
I'm not defending Oats. You're not getting my vote for lynching him and that's all, I'm not going to pick your points apart in an attempt to convince you that he's town, I'd much rather convince you to lynch scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 16:23 GMT
#1683
Debears check the voting thread before you waste energy to find things that you misinterpreted anyway.

People this game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 16:35 GMT
#1691
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 24 2013 01:28 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 01:23 Vivax wrote:
Debears check the voting thread before you waste energy to find things that you misinterpreted anyway.

People this game.


Your flip on Toad is dumb and scummy as shit, considering he finally agrees with you on gonzaw.

Yet, you still rip him for voting gonzaw.

Oh, and the only reason you find him scum is jk wifom.

You disregard his(toads) whole d1 play in which you preached him as town.

Oh, and you think him and Gonzaw are suddenly scum team. Congratulations

vivax this game.........


1. My flip on Toad is based on much more than jk wifom. You would know it if you read his stance on gonzaw and Oats and the answers he provided when I asked him about various reads like yamato, gonzaw annul etc.

2. You're stupid to think that I can't change opinion on someone cause I had another one D1. It's neither scummy nor is it bad, and all the reasons for doing that are out there. I simply thought Toad was town D1. Now I don't believe it anymore.

3. I found gonzaw scummy very early. That is reflected in my distrust in him as elected role in my earlier posts. I am not ripping people for THAT they vote gonzaw, I rip them for HOW they vote him. And that's the reason why I asked so many questions about him. I'm not trying to dissuade people from doing so.

In Toad's case it looks to me like he doesn't vote for him cause he suddenly reads him as scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 16:46 GMT
#1701
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 24 2013 01:39 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 01:35 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 24 2013 01:28 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 01:23 Vivax wrote:
Debears check the voting thread before you waste energy to find things that you misinterpreted anyway.

People this game.


Your flip on Toad is dumb and scummy as shit, considering he finally agrees with you on gonzaw.

Yet, you still rip him for voting gonzaw.

Oh, and the only reason you find him scum is jk wifom.

You disregard his(toads) whole d1 play in which you preached him as town.

Oh, and you think him and Gonzaw are suddenly scum team. Congratulations

vivax this game.........


1. My flip on Toad is based on much more than jk wifom. You would know it if you read his stance on gonzaw and Oats and the answers he provided when I asked him about various reads like yamato, gonzaw annul etc.

2. You're stupid to think that I can't change opinion on someone cause I had another one D1. It's neither scummy nor is it bad, and all the reasons for doing that are out there. I simply thought Toad was town D1. Now I don't believe it anymore.

3. I found gonzaw scummy very early. That is reflected in my distrust in him as elected role in my earlier posts. I am not ripping people for THAT they vote gonzaw, I rip them for HOW they vote him. And that's the reason why I asked so many questions about him. I'm not trying to dissuade people from doing so.

In Toad's case it looks to me like he doesn't vote for him cause he suddenly reads him as scum.


So when Djo and JX died over Gonzaw and Austin you didn't suddenly go "wow"?


Why should I when I was suspicious of both of them in the first place?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 16:53 GMT
#1703
I take that means you want to lynch annul over gonzaw?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 16:57 GMT
#1705
It's a good post, it convinced me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 16:57 GMT
#1706
That you could be scum I mean.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 17:01 GMT
#1708
I think they're half-assed and forced. More focused on finding mistakes and inconsistencies in his play rather than reasons for him being scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 17:07 GMT
#1712
The huge CAPSLOCK parts you put in there also suggest you wanted to achieve some show/omg-effect by pointing out various things like that.

But you seem to not be too convinced yourself by these oh so thrilling revelations since you don't want to lynch him before annul.

Really bad acting there.
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