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Can you assume that Oats isn't scum for a moment and take a look at Toad? Thanks. You also posted a somewhat-read about gonzaw, but you aren't interested in hearing opinions about him?Or asking him questions? Where is gonzaw anyway? | ||
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On January 23 2013 16:12 Toadesstern wrote: wouldn't mind lynching into either gonzaw or Annul today. Have to reread a bit because they kind of rule out each other... Anyways doublelynch tomorrow should be voted for. On January 23 2013 20:45 Toadesstern wrote: I don't think it's a slip at all. Not sure who I'd want to lynch first at all. I'm trying to figure out how likely it is that mafia shot like total retards (besides the Sandro hit that ist) on purpose to make us think about someone else who might be mafia within the vets, which is the reason we're talking about gonzaw to begin with. gonzaw looks / looked a townie so far and I really thought he'd die as a secondary target as you can see when you're reading the logs between Sandro and myself. And Sandro agreed so that's one of the reaons I'm talking about Gonzaw right now. Annul's posts are awful in general. The ones he did on d1 didn't contribute or were trollish (the combination of both is what's troublesome). Like the wifom-picture post, like his very first (or 2nd?) post "causually" asking why I'm not considering to vote him instead of Sandro. And now he's basicly ragequitting although he's still hanging in here. That's at least something good I guess. On top of that I just never agreed with a single read he did. Saying I'm mafia d1, I think he said you (Vivax) are mafia d1 as well when EVERYONE agreed that you're one of the most townish looking guys around. Check my first log for timestamps on when I said something about you... like 3 hours into the game it was already certain for me, and for Sandro as well. He was wasting his vote by putting it on himself and he was against the prplhz lynch. This town needs help. | ||
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On January 23 2013 03:52 Toadesstern wrote: this exactly. On a sidenote for medics: Don't forget about gonzaw. That guy probably needs protection as well. So if you're a medic and don't know what to do, at least consider protecting WBG / Gonzaw / Sandro. I'm not going to tell you my target. This was the post where Toad changed his mind about Oats. But Toad's latest scumreads before this post were: On January 22 2013 16:53 Toadesstern wrote: If you're pressing me to formulate a real list with the guys I'd pick if I had to right now I'd say it's: Annul as #1, oats or JX as #2, debears as #3, BKE as #4. clarity seems very unlikely to be mafia but it's possible I guess. 1st of all, super easy targets to pick as scum. Then, you changed your whole fucking read on Oats based on him being the first to make a case on gonzaw. He wanted gonzaw protected during that night and thought that his former scumread is suddenly town for making a case on someone he wants protected? No, actually, he and gonzaw are scumbuddies. Toad has seen the winds change towards a gonzaw lynch and has set himself up to bus him, that's why he switched stances on both of Oats and gonzaw so extremely. He obviously didn't have good reasons except for the bus motive to do so, that's why his answers regarding gonzaw and annul have been extremely bad and even contradict his opinion on gonzaw. Lynch either of them and thank me after the game, you noobs. Even Axle noticed this shit. FT is awful with his Oats tunnel. For sure not Palmar. | ||
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It's telling that in none of your arguments you ask me why I think gonzaw is scum if I'm so sure about the connection between you two and you aren't sure about him. | ||
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For now. | ||
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On January 24 2013 00:49 Mocsta wrote: Toad/Vivax. I know this is a lot of a non-vet to ask of vets, but can you please put your discussions on hold. I feel like you two are discussing semantics - i am not saying the discussion is invalid or inappropriate.. just : Concurrently we have a case mounting on Oats, based on facts in this game and meta from a game I just played with him. I would really appreciate if you could share your thoughts on what FiveTouch and myself have raised over the past 2 pages. Where's the analysis of gonzaw and Toad you promised? | ||
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On January 24 2013 00:58 FiveTouch wrote: The irony of all your posts is that you basically refuse to comment on the player that I want to lynch (dude who killed mafia, just to remind you). This is about it: Why do you think you have the right to demand answers from others, when unwilling to provide opinions yourself on other cases? Or are you simply that much of an outrageous hypocrite? I already said Oats is town. I said it when I read he's your bodyguard, I said the same about debears. Nothing has changed about that, go read. I'm not talking about why I think he's town. That's his own job. This is also in answer to Mocsta. | ||
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People this game. | ||
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On January 24 2013 01:28 debears wrote: Your flip on Toad is dumb and scummy as shit, considering he finally agrees with you on gonzaw. Yet, you still rip him for voting gonzaw. Oh, and the only reason you find him scum is jk wifom. You disregard his(toads) whole d1 play in which you preached him as town. Oh, and you think him and Gonzaw are suddenly scum team. Congratulations vivax this game......... 1. My flip on Toad is based on much more than jk wifom. You would know it if you read his stance on gonzaw and Oats and the answers he provided when I asked him about various reads like yamato, gonzaw annul etc. 2. You're stupid to think that I can't change opinion on someone cause I had another one D1. It's neither scummy nor is it bad, and all the reasons for doing that are out there. I simply thought Toad was town D1. Now I don't believe it anymore. 3. I found gonzaw scummy very early. That is reflected in my distrust in him as elected role in my earlier posts. I am not ripping people for THAT they vote gonzaw, I rip them for HOW they vote him. And that's the reason why I asked so many questions about him. I'm not trying to dissuade people from doing so. In Toad's case it looks to me like he doesn't vote for him cause he suddenly reads him as scum. | ||
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On January 24 2013 01:39 debears wrote: So when Djo and JX died over Gonzaw and Austin you didn't suddenly go "wow"? Why should I when I was suspicious of both of them in the first place? | ||
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But you seem to not be too convinced yourself by these oh so thrilling revelations since you don't want to lynch him before annul. Really bad acting there. | ||
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