EPTTime to ask you the famous question: Wasn't it crystal clear at the start of D2 that the lynch was between gonzaw and Oats?
Where did all your reasons for voting Oats D2 go?
You looked like you were the one pushing the lynch the hardest.
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Time to ask you the famous question: Wasn't it crystal clear at the start of D2 that the lynch was between gonzaw and Oats? Where did all your reasons for voting Oats D2 go? You looked like you were the one pushing the lynch the hardest. | ||
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Sorry I thought the host would reply and confirm it or something. I think your town because of your posts, and thats why I masoned you. I think gonzaw is townie, good posts. I don't like vivax. Crazy de-lurk by mkfuba I would get behind a chezinu mayor spot. Then there's grushs early PM. This game is a giant mindfuck. | ||
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On January 29 2013 12:00 Vivax wrote: For prplhz it made sense to not get one of them elected, it would look super fishy after his lynch. He could have managed to elect gonzaw or austin into position together with Chez. If you think about it, a townie in pole position like both of them could be effectively framed by getting elected this way by a scum right before dying. That actually speaks for austinmcc being scum cause they were afraid of forcing his election. When Toad was leading in votes as sheriff, they could have stopped his election by electing gonzaw. They didn't do that despite gonzaw being scum, that means they had no interest in getting one of theirs in over Toad, or they were too scared of creating such a connection. It can mean two things: → Toad is scum. → They were afraid of electing gonzaw like that. → Toad is town and they didn't give a fuck about framing townies or getting one of theirs elected. Then, there's austin. For the case that austin is town, they could have elected him over Toad with prplhz's vote, effectively framing him and stopping Toad from getting the spot, they didn't do that, it means: → Toad is scum. → They were afraid of electing austin like that, just like gonzaw. → Austin is town and they didn't think about framing austin like that and preferred Toad over austin anyway. → Toad is town and they didn't give a fuck about framing townies or getting one of theirs elected. | ||
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→ → They were afraid of electing gonzaw like that. → Austin: → → They were afraid of electing austin like that, just like gonzaw. → Austin is town and they didn't think about framing austin like that and preferred Toad as townie over austin anyway. → | ||
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As to Chez, we have more to go on there than with the other players - he has been involved in at least two masonings, if everyone is telling the truth. That should give us more to go on, and the masons he was with can share their thoughts at some point. If we're going to go after a heavy lurker, I'd prefer a not-Chezinu, because it seems there's more to Chezinu than just what's been in thread. | ||
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Instead he's seemingly afraid to look bad and openly says he wanted town to get off Chez wtf. | ||
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I could see BC trolling town by creating a scumteam with 5 vets/experienced players in it. There is no sign of the balance Toad talks about so far. See you at deadline then. | ||
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On January 30 2013 02:01 annul wrote: IF BKE was mafia, when the first accusation went against him (i think it was someone saying "yeah you're definitely mafia" as a one-liner right after one of his posts), people may have tried to sway people off of him. i can see a world where they do this, yes. i would as scum anyway. Never forget. | ||
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It's a bad argument, they double stacked to incriminate him in the first place. Would be ridiculous to defend him afterwards. | ||
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Are you trying to say that scum would try to sway off votes from BKE in your world? And how is that even related to you picking Chez? How did you know before the night ended that people would be sure that BKE was mafia afterwards since that seems to be your reasoning for picking Chez? | ||
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The question to you was simple: Why did you pick Chez as target for your bomb? You answer with: My role usage was fine. assuming BKE was mafia, like 100% of the players here did (i may have missed a defender, but i doubt it), then there is literally no reason at all to have killed chez yesterday. none. mafia KP remains at 1 and chez does not hold any town powers, he isn't trusted, he's essentially already dead, just with a voice and one vote. that's it. IF BKE was mafia, when the first accusation went against him (i think it was someone saying "yeah you're definitely mafia" as a one-liner right after one of his posts), people may have tried to sway people off of him. i can see a world where they do this, yes. i would as scum anyway. I can understand your first argument for not killing Chez that day, except that for the part that implies that you wanted to drag Chez along until the lategame. But the second? Why are you justifying the fact that you thought BKE was mafia during the day? That was like the most natural thing one could do as town. | ||
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Wasn't enough to lynch me immediately, but it was for later. How is the assumption of BKE being red a hole in your argument? Are you trying to say that you would not have tried to stop the Chez lynch if you thought BKE was green? | ||
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He knew all the things he's guilty of, and one of them is calling BKE scum. That's why he's justifying for doing that when literally all of town was sure about BKE. Forget axle, let's annul annul | ||
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1. Place bomb on Chez cause you think he's scum. 2. Claim MH with the intention of keeping the bomb on Chez suggesting that you want him around until lategame. 3. Claim you did so cause you thought BKE was scum and since you are so sure of that it implies that mafia will only have 1 KP left after the lynch. Now we stand corrected. Chez was mafia, they would have had 2 KP last night if we listened to annul. Annul is being accused of point 1, and 2. Annul justifies point 3 and ignores 1 and 2. | ||
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He and austin are far better lynches than Axle in my opinion. As far as I'm understanding Toad he thinks Axle is scum cause he talked like he's a medic but didn't claim in the mason chat. Well, he could have claimed saying that he tried to save someone if he was mafia, so I don't see the point Toad sees. The Chez and gonzaw support can be said for grush and debears as well, I'm sure debears supported Chez initially, not sure about gonzaw, would have to look but I checked him anyway. | ||
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