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On January 29 2013 02:08 FiveTouch wrote: And yet gonzaw supported Toad over austin, and austin never moved his vote over to gonzaw even though he could easily have done so without attracting suspicion :/ he never supported me  | ||
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On January 29 2013 02:13 FiveTouch wrote: It's more because I'm repeating myself. In the quote Vivax provided, he said he was happy to vote for gonzaw, and yet he never did. austin could easily have consolidated over to gonzaw and made him sheriff, yet didn't, and let Toad become elected sheriff instead. austin was plenty active Day 1 and it makes no sense that he wouldn't throw his support over to gonzaw at some stage, especially as he'd seemingly given himself this opportunity to do so. gonzaw would have needed 2 votes, which means they would have needed chez on top of that which would have made gonzaw look really odd at a time he still looked good. | ||
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On January 29 2013 02:14 FiveTouch wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344¤tpage=166#3312 he can say that easily when he never planned to vote me to begin with. As Vivax pointed out he was more in austins favor earlier on. | ||
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But he still looks fishy imo. | ||
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On January 29 2013 03:29 debears wrote: Something we should keep in mind with austin Gonz was jack mason I would think mafia woild try to get him into office with his role Chez was godfather, meaning they most likely didn't want him in office (dt immunity) Prp was a goon, meaning they didn't expect him to last long they can decide their roles after seeing how it works though. Agree with marvs find though. | ||
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On January 29 2013 03:40 debears wrote: My point is that I find it morr likely for sxum to rely on austin over chez going into lategame one member down I'd say the opposite. Chez is way more of a vet and at the same time you can't pull those "why is chez still around" arguments on chez unlike you could do on someone like marv / bugs / sandro surviving longer than they should. | ||
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On January 29 2013 12:16 FiveTouch wrote: I might actually start weeping. I'm pushing him because I don't understand what he did. But the argument Vivax put in the thread is a good reason annul could be town, and I'm not gonna bullshit about it. Marv it is not and you know it. We both know mocsta is town now, we know axle is town. That means there were only 2 mafais on gonzaw, one of them being gonzaw himself. Mafia didn't choose to get him eleceted for whatever reason but they could have. That reasoning could be anything like "We don't want to pile up everyone on gonzaw d1 with little / poor reasoning". That being said I think we should lynch Annul because what was said in Annuls defense can be said about EVERYONE in this game, hence rendering it pointless. | ||
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##vote Doublelynch | ||
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On January 29 2013 14:00 mkfuba07 wrote: Alright, I decided that my "case" was more of a discussion piece. It's rolling around in my head, and I keep running into things that I want to check. Instead I'm just going to explain the overall idea and let people ponder it. So, my theory is that it was mafia's intention to get chez elected mayor D1. if you read this post: I feel that that is an interesting emphasis, given what we know now. Why such strong emphasis on masons? At this point, town austin knew nothing about any masons, because he's a vet. Scum, however, were aware of at least 4 masons at this point. Chez was either aligned with or in direct communication with them. In addition, he appears to have tried to set up some kind of mason communication network that I still don't fully understand. Feasible that they were working together? Austin later feels the need to insert himself into yamato and vivax's conversation/argument/whatever they had in order to tell us that chez should definitely be a candidate, even if he's not voting for him. He says that if you are convinced he's town, he is a top choice. But he is not convinced. Either way, it's a recurring theme in his filter. After it is pretty clear that chezinu isn't getting elected, he comments on gonzaw, saying at least once that he feels gonzaw would be a good candidate, but only if you believe he is town. But austin doesn't believe he's town, so he's not voting for him. He supports their elections, as long as he isn't the one to do it. These were two scum. There's a bit more, but I've gotta head out for a bit. I'll add more when I get back. again, mafia decide who gets what role. That could be said about anyone making it pointless. | ||
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On January 29 2013 18:51 annul wrote: toad, did you jail anyone last night? why should I | ||
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On January 29 2013 19:29 Oatsmaster wrote: why? he only has three jails. if he used it last night, we know he has no jail left. Are you kidding me. Giving scum info=bad. Toad, how big of a mason cycle are you in? I never got masoned by anyone besides yamato yesterday. | ||
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On January 29 2013 19:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Toad, why double lynch? because there's 3 people I want dead as fast as possible: Annul, mkfuba, Axle. | ||
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On January 29 2013 21:01 FiveTouch wrote: Then we should absolutely be lynching Axle. His activity has dropped off a cliff. ##Vote: Axlegreaser what do you make off what I said about Vivax and your defense of Annul? Because even if axle is mafia, that still means mocsta was town, that still means mafia could have gotten Goznaw into office any time they wanted. So there was a reason for them to not do that like "we don't want to have all votes on gonzaw d1" or whatever it is, it doesn't matter. Mocsta completly nullifies the defense on Annul you and Vivax thought about because the same thing could be said about EVERYONE in the game. "why didn't chez vote gonzaw? he could have made him sheriff!" "why didn't Bugs vote gonzaw? he could have made him sheriff!" "why didn't Toad vote gonzaw? he could have made him sheriff!" "why didn't Yamato vote gonzaw? he could have made him sheriff!" clearly you have to agree that with that knowledge there is no point in mentioning it about Annul, now is there? | ||
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Now if we take all that into consideration and with the knowledge that he in fact isn't a medic he thinks about medics an awful lot for apparently no reason. He also tried to figure out the "medic plan" I did n1 and n2. Why would you do that unless you're a medic yourself? I REALLY thought the guy is just a bad townie who kept blabbering about his role and can't keep his mouth shut and ignored the fact that he's not contributing both because I was damn certain about him being a medic and because being focused about a role (medic) like that is something new guys do if they happen to have that role themselves... Bugs thought the same thing, I told marv about it and he INSTANTLY agreed and said it's so obvious now that I mentioned it in mason-chat, which is the reason he changed from axle being probably mafia to axle being probably town so suddenly. Now that we know he is no medic it looks an awful lot like someone trying to contribute something (talk about medics) when it doesn't do a thing for us. At all. On top of that he is really focused about who ends up being medic'ed / jailed and there's obvious mafia reason to think about that a lot. I don't see a lot of reasons for townies to think about that stuff unless you're involved yourself (aka: you are the medic). | ||
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