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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 25 2013 18:06 GMT
#2621
If I ever see you use Ockham's razor I will slap you in the face, cause you clearly aren't using it in this game.

Sandro killed AND roleblocked?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2013 18:08 GMT
#2622
On January 26 2013 02:57 Vivax wrote:
Just cause you posted a list of x people with 1 mafia in it that doesn't make you town. Stop making ridiculous arguments.

The last thing you said before the claim regarding gonzaw:

Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 15:39 Toadesstern wrote:
yeah I'd say gonzaw would be the worst lynch out of those but he's a possibility.
It's entirely based ond process of elimination.


And when the claim came. You did the same thing as yamato, you attacked it as hard as you could without even reading the OP before to check if I got the right check back.

Doesn't look to me like the revelation of mafia gonzaw didn't surprise you. Look at Oats' reaction as counter example.

and you're not reading in context. I said everyone is town besides those 4 (+1 other guy) imo. All 4 are great lynches, gonzaw being the worst imo due to the "Annul - Chez - Gonzaw -triangle" or however I labled it. The list was still head on right, wasn't it?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 25 2013 18:09 GMT
#2623
On January 26 2013 03:06 Vivax wrote:
If I ever see you use Ockham's razor I will slap you in the face, cause you clearly aren't using it in this game.

Sandro killed AND roleblocked?


Mafia teams often kill and roleblock the same person. I've done so plenty of times in the past.
Artanis & marv
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2013 18:09 GMT
#2624
On January 26 2013 03:01 Vivax wrote:
What is this fear of me getting roleblocked you have anyway?

N1 → Only roleblocked guy was Bugs, and he was jailed.

Conclusions?

Mafia withheld their roleblock or mafia doesn't have a roleblocker?
Why do you believe in option 1?

JX could have been roleblocked, the other guy who died could have been roleblocked, bugs could have been roleblocked, sandro could have been roleblocked.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 25 2013 18:10 GMT
#2625
oatsmaster if you are around, top 3 scum reads please
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2013 18:11 GMT
#2626
On January 26 2013 03:06 Vivax wrote:
If I ever see you use Ockham's razor I will slap you in the face, cause you clearly aren't using it in this game.

Sandro killed AND roleblocked?

it's actually the thing to do as mafia. Never use your RB on someone you're not killing unless you have a 100% certain blue-read. Like the one on you.

But you wouldn't know, because you have no idea how to play this game so you just keep on telling me the right things I say are wrong because you disagree with them, which makes me mafia because you don't know shit.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DearestSnot
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany200 Posts
January 25 2013 18:11 GMT
#2627
Yeah, if he was med protted and survived and was DT/vig/jack his action would have gone through. Also I don't remember if it's in the OP or not but the RB+hit combo is a common way of targeting people who are suspected to hold the vet role. If mafia deduced that sandro was not worrying about being shot (quite possible given how the convos went n1) then they could have RBed him and shot him on the possibility they thought he was vet. Also even if he wasn't protted if had some sort of vig action it would have gone through.

Occam's razor here is that we don't know if there is a mafia RB, so stop acting like there isn't. You don't understand the principle if you think my logic is unnecessarily complicated.

debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 25 2013 18:13 GMT
#2628
Do our masons have an agenda for tomorrow?

If not, I would like request one to mason me
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 25 2013 18:13 GMT
#2629
You forgot your flipflopping regarding gonzaw and Toad I called you out about vehemently.

Gonzaw was a likely Nightkill for you before the day.

After the night, people expressed the suspicion of him.
So you did, too. Oats looked suddenly much more townie to you.
Yet, you concluded with an Oats vote just before I claimed.

On January 24 2013 23:03 Toadesstern wrote:
Okay I can get behind a oatsmaster lynch if you're that certain Palmar / whoever you are.

I've got to say I'm pretty damn certain Chez isn't town though... as long as people shoot him / BKE (priority on Chez) as vigs, if we have some we should be fine. We need to get somewhere and I'm trusting you on this one... I really think Chez would be the better lynch for today though.

##vote Oats


And no mentioning of gonzaw in this one?

Anyway, I'll show your attitude towards gonzaw in my next post. Gotta go to training so I don't know if I'll make it in time.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 25 2013 18:14 GMT
#2630
Remove the "and Toad" wtf did I write. The hurry.
DearestSnot
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany200 Posts
January 25 2013 18:15 GMT
#2631
nvm on what I said about vets; that's not a possibility given the RB description in the OP.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2013 18:17 GMT
#2632
On January 26 2013 03:13 Vivax wrote:
You forgot your flipflopping regarding gonzaw and Toad I called you out about vehemently.

Gonzaw was a likely Nightkill for you before the day.

After the night, people expressed the suspicion of him.
So you did, too. Oats looked suddenly much more townie to you.
Yet, you concluded with an Oats vote just before I claimed.

Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 23:03 Toadesstern wrote:
Okay I can get behind a oatsmaster lynch if you're that certain Palmar / whoever you are.

I've got to say I'm pretty damn certain Chez isn't town though... as long as people shoot him / BKE (priority on Chez) as vigs, if we have some we should be fine. We need to get somewhere and I'm trusting you on this one... I really think Chez would be the better lynch for today though.

##vote Oats


And no mentioning of gonzaw in this one?

Anyway, I'll show your attitude towards gonzaw in my next post. Gotta go to training so I don't know if I'll make it in time.

I was the first person you called for the gonzaw lynch. The FIRST

EVERYONE thought gonzaw was town and EVERYONE was sure the read was wrong once the nightkills went thorugh and EVERYONE agreed that's something that made Gonzaw scummy.

You're basicly telling me I'm mafia because I was right about Gonzaw. Way to go confirmation bias. Sadly for you I'm town and nothing in this game you said was correct
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2013 18:18 GMT
#2633
*who
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 25 2013 18:22 GMT
#2634
And what in that post is an argument for you being town LOL?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 25 2013 18:24 GMT
#2635
How long til deadline?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 25 2013 18:25 GMT
#2636
7 hours
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 25 2013 18:27 GMT
#2637
K tnx

5touch have you figured out who the mason talking to me is?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 25 2013 18:30 GMT
#2638
Hint:

Search for gonzaw's name in Toad's D1 filter and look at Toad's opinions on gonzaw.

It's easy, quick to do and informative.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2013 18:31 GMT
#2639
On January 26 2013 03:22 Vivax wrote:
And what in that post is an argument for you being town LOL?

I don't know, maybe the fact that I was very much involved into making FT mayor and lynching prplhz by proxy.
The fact that I said "those 4 people in this list have 2 to 3 mafias in it", which again, was/is correct.

The fact that our... gosh I guess I shouldn't say that... aren't dead.
The fact that everyone in this thread thinks you have no idea what you're saying.
The fact that I've got shittons of pm's from people obsing telling me to chill a bit because everyone outside the game knows you're just full of shit and everyone's laughing about you. Except for syllo. He's mad that I'm rage-outing blues when asked to out blues by some idiots instead of just ignoring said idiots.

I mean what am I even saying here. I'm talking with the guy who tried to get our basicly mod confirmed mayor who lynched mafia d1 lynched instead of a red check :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2013 18:32 GMT
#2640
On January 26 2013 03:30 Vivax wrote:
Hint:

Search for gonzaw's name in Toad's D1 filter and look at Toad's opinions on gonzaw.

It's easy, quick to do and informative.

what part of "everyone thought gonzaw is a townie d1 and realized it's wrong once the n1 hits came in" don't you understand?
Of course I thought he's town, like everyone else did d1. And like everyone with half a brain I realized he's very likely mafia on d2.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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