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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
I find this even more interesting given how many players in this game that seems to have Hopeless and SlOosh down as scum mates. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 17 2013 06:14 Xatalos wrote: Are you basing your townread of WBG on Sloosh flipping scum? What if Sloosh is town? Is WBG still town then? And it's not that unlikely for scum WBG to say something in your defense... Almost everyone seemed to think of you as just a lynchbait at the time. I had a town read on WBG since day one. I dont think sloosh is town for all the reasons i posted. Last time i played with WBG he defended me day 1. And i thought it might be a scum move to defend me and get me to think he was town so we ended up lynching him eventually (i mostly blame palmar lol) So given what i know I have a town read on him cause his play is similar. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
i think he is full of shit ## Vote Sloosh | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
Ill be back in an hour. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
Why did Hapa vote for Ruuch? Question the second: Why did I vote for Ruuch? @Lamp: Do you find my read of you suspicious, based on the posting, and circumstances surrounding the replacement, of Ruuch? By which I mean, do you think it is conceivable that I would arrive at a townread of you based on the limited information available? | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 17 2013 09:08 Hopeless1der wrote: Question the first: Why did Hapa vote for Ruuch? Question the second: Why did I vote for Ruuch? @Lamp: Do you find my read of you suspicious, based on the posting, and circumstances surrounding the replacement, of Ruuch? By which I mean, do you think it is conceivable that I would arrive at a townread of you based on the limited information available? Ill answer these. I think both of you voting for Ruunch was stupid. It was a dumb wagon. He is a completely new at this game. Doesn't know what hes doing. His late vote was completely a null tell. He doesnt know whats scummy and whats townie. He has never had experience playing this game before. He probably felt a bit overwhelmed (hence why he later quit.) So my question to you is why did you vote Ruunch? Also Ziggler why did you decide to vote SlOosh over say WBG or LM or Hopeless? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
On January 17 2013 09:08 Hopeless1der wrote: Question the first: Why did Hapa vote for Ruuch? Question the second: Why did I vote for Ruuch? @Lamp: Do you find my read of you suspicious, based on the posting, and circumstances surrounding the replacement, of Ruuch? By which I mean, do you think it is conceivable that I would arrive at a townread of you based on the limited information available? from outside the thread i thought it was pretty obvious that ruuch was super noob town like here On January 15 2013 09:24 Ruuch wrote: A quick google-search tells me that "scumclaim" is when a scum player basically admits defeat and reveals that they're scum, is that right? (I really dislike the use of the word "scum" in this context, but I suppose theres not much I can do to change everyones old habits) I assume you're referring to my "hornets nest" post. If so, could you elaborate a little, since I don't see how that's a scumclaim. I was simply thinking out loud about. Hornets in this case being experienced mafia players in general. i can see why people voted for him though but i think calmer heads should have eventuall lead to a town read. so i can see why you got an eventual townread | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
On January 17 2013 09:51 jaybrundage wrote: Also Ziggler why did you decide to vote SlOosh over say WBG or LM or Hopeless? because i think he is scum and i want him to die the most. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 17 2013 05:21 Xatalos wrote: If you're not indifferent, how do you explain your constant sheeping of the thread and switching your votes for the pettiest of reasons? I'm not sheeping the thread you moron, I'm pushing both Hopeless AND slOosh. Which one dies I don't actually care because I think they're both scum. I'm definitely indifferent to that, so you can suck on your indifference there. The votes aren't going to make sense until they flip, and if and only if one of them flips town-right now the votes are incredibly even. If one of them ends up flipping town we'll know that scum were likely more behind it. On January 17 2013 05:27 Hapahauli wrote: Votes Ruuch, afks for the entire night cycle, comes back and says he thinks iamperfection is town for no reasoning, then proceeds to make arguments against me based on the "assumption" of iamp being town. Furthermore, he stated that he didn't understand my reasoning for voting Ruuch, which is incredibly scummy considering that he voted Ruuch himself. This is actually an excellent point and probably the strongest reason I've seen yet for voting Hopeless. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On January 17 2013 09:08 Hopeless1der wrote: ... Question the second: Why did I vote for Ruuch? This is a really really good question. Why did you vote for Ruuch? Let's examine things. On January 15 2013 08:58 Hopeless1der wrote: Better than Prom ##Unvote: Lazermonkey ##Vote: Ruuch You voted him because you thought he had more chance to flip scum than Prom. This would imply that you had a really really strong town-read on Prom. Your strong town-read? On January 15 2013 02:47 Hopeless1der wrote: He has asked a lot of questions and generally follows them up. They don't appear to be useless and he seems to have read British Empire, which he didn't play in. He's going out of his way to interact with people, like asking you (sloosh) about xat's play in Paranoia, which again he didn't play in or me about my "policy", as discussed in an obs qt. In short, he's active and paying attention, pursuing information from outside of this game where possible. His "swapping" his stance on Xata was deliberate and pre-meditated to me, as evidenced by his post here: Further to the above, I don't recall him ever taking a proper stance on Xatalos until this post. His unvote of SS is sketchy, especially what Hapa pointed out, with the unvote reasons having nothing to do with the initial voting reasons. His case against Lazer, and followup to that are much stronger than his push against SS, which makes me wonder if his heart was ever in pushing SS to begin with. I'm leaning town on Prom. You were leaning town on Prom. You had a weak town-read on Prom. Yet despite "leaning town" on Prome, you adopted a stance of being willing to lynch pretty much anyone but him. You knew he was going to flip town, and you distanced yourself from his lynch. But once again, if you had a town-read on Prome, what's the purpose of all the bolded stuff? You had a town-read on Prome, yet half of your post flung shit at him. None of that makes any sense. @Lamp: Do you find my read of you suspicious, based on the posting, and circumstances surrounding the replacement, of Ruuch? By which I mean, do you think it is conceivable that I would arrive at a townread of you based on the limited information available? You still have not explained how you arrived at your town-read on Iamp. In fact I can't for the life of me figure out how you garnered a strong-enough townread on, given that Iamp had made 11 posts at the time you gave him a town-read. And it's not a weak town-read either - it's apparently strong enough to make you "assume" he's town in your analysis. That's complete bullshit. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On January 17 2013 08:40 iamperfection wrote: and can someone talk to me in a back in forth basis i find easier to figure things out if some is here with me actively talking about the game asking me questions and what not. Ill be back in an hour. I'll talk. What makes me scum, and what makes me a better choice than hopeless? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
On January 17 2013 10:14 slOosh wrote: I'll talk. What makes me scum, and what makes me a better choice than hopeless? i kind of feel like wbg does i would be willing to kill either of you. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On January 17 2013 10:15 iamperfection wrote: i kind of feel like wbg does i would be willing to kill either of you. So I'll put you down as you think both of us are scum and don't have a preference. Everyone should state clearly what they think when they make the vote. Either X is scum and Y is scum too, Or X is town and Y is scum. With a polarized lynch such as this, even though it may in a mislynch it can garner valuable information for town and puts immense pressure on scum. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 17 2013 09:51 jaybrundage wrote: Ill answer these. I think both of you voting for Ruunch was stupid. It was a dumb wagon. He is a completely new at this game. Doesn't know what hes doing. His late vote was completely a null tell. He doesnt know whats scummy and whats townie. He has never had experience playing this game before. He probably felt a bit overwhelmed (hence why he later quit.) So my question to you is why did you vote Ruunch? Also Ziggler why did you decide to vote SlOosh over say WBG or LM or Hopeless? I asked the questions in that manner because my reasons were completely different than Hapa's. I was doing what little I could to save Prom, short of blowing up at the thread and calling everyone stupid, which seems to be the go-to response these days. Hapa on the other hand has been touting his scum-Prom read and all of the sudden feels its a good idea to go after Ruuch as a policy lynch. I won't deny it was a stupid wagon, but I felt it was a better to lose him than Prom. I didn't read Ruuch as scum, I read him as expendable, in comparison to Prom. Hapa trying to equate our votes as being equally scummy: + Show Spoiler + On January 17 2013 05:27 Hapahauli wrote: Yes I did. However that's only one game out of the multitude of his recent town games in which he played very aggressively. In addition, I can't rationalize his stance on iamp from a town perspective: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=52#1022 Votes Ruuch, afks for the entire night cycle, comes back and says he thinks iamperfection is town for no reasoning, then proceeds to make arguments against me based on the "assumption" of iamp being town. Furthermore, he stated that he didn't understand my reasoning for voting Ruuch, which is incredibly scummy considering that he voted Ruuch himself. is a massive load of bull. I appreciate your efforts to put words in my mouth, like my "implied" super strong town read of Prom, while simultaneously disregarding Question the First. Furthermore, the "assume you're town" was specifically TO iamperfection because he asked me to explain myself. Are you going to jump down his throat for this post?: On January 16 2013 06:10 iamperfection wrote: Do you still mantain he is scum? If he was scum he would have had access to other players in order to coach him. If you look at his posts he is clearly lost and has no clue what he is doing. Ill have to go back to the vote swaping when I get home because I now know that people were jumping from town to town. Or does he get a free pass because he was speaking about himself? Anyways, it seems I need to look towards self-preservation ##Unvote: Lazermonkey ##Vote: SlOosh On January 17 2013 10:14 iamperfection wrote: so what was your reasoning for your town read on me hopeless? Primarily based on Ruuch's limited interactions with the thread. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
On January 17 2013 10:26 Hopeless1der wrote: Primarily based on Ruuch's limited interactions with the thread. who what where when and why? | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
Hopeless, in your own words, what about me is scummy? Or are you purely looking out for yourself and you don't care about my alignment? | ||
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